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Old 01.06.2011, 11:01
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

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So what, your daughter's friend is not fervently religious. It just opens up a new perspective for your kid, and she will learn to accept that we are not all the same, and our values, and beliefs differ. And that is OK!
That is what the OP should explain to her daughter.
Beliefs may differ, but it still goes against local customs to openly talk about religion here, and attempts to do so will be frowned upon, I don't think it hurts for her daughter to know that. The Swiss (including the younger generation) are among the most religious in Europe after the Italians, so it's not about being religious or not, it's about whether it's considered polite to talk openly abou it, which is not the case. It doesn't hurt to sometimes respect the local culture me thinks.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:04
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

I was explaining to my 2 year old son that there was a giant pink hippo who lives in the sky and comes down at night and magically transforms all the bad people into cheese. He insisted that the only reasonable response to this statement was "bla bla bla"

Could it be that some gifted young children posess an in-built level of sanity that is missing in many adults and enables them to see through such 'smoke and mirrors'?

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Old 01.06.2011, 11:10
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Im not upset with anyone, just to be clear. And for me this IS an issue with kids, if i should teach my 6 year old to keep the "god talk" at home or if i just let her judge and learn from it.

This post is not about whose religion is right either. I come from a very catholic country (but im protestant) so it is very different from here. I know about hinduism and such but i dont know the attitude of the swiss environment towards what my daughter is doing. Being open about our beliefs. Id like to know if this will get her in trouble in school or what.
Children can be honest and striaghtforward in a way that adults no longer can be. They speak their thoughts often without realising the effect this may have on others. In a way that innocence is something precious and I wouldn't interfere and try to take it from them too early. I don't think it's right to give a 6-year old a list of things she can or cannot talk about. But if you think there is a conflict looming you could explain to her that some people are different and that's why they react that way.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:14
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

My six-year old came home the other day and said that, according to her best friend (Swiss), there is a big nanny in the sky who looks after all of us. While my daughter loves the idea of baby Jesus at christmas we have not discussed religion with her otherwise.

I'm inclined to let them all sort it out between themselves. There will be so many different influences and perspectives when it comes to religious beliefs. I would not try to stop any child from talking about it with friends as I really do think this is something that need to work through for themselves. As parents we can provide guidance according to our own beliefs but our children are entitled to also develop their own way of thinking.

And at this age, the tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny probably hold as much power over them as the 'big nanny in the sky'.
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Beliefs may differ, but it still goes against local customs to openly talk about religion here, and attempts to do so will be frowned upon, I don't think it hurts for her daughter to know that. The Swiss (including the younger generation) are among the most religious in Europe after the Italians, so it's not about being religious or not, it's about whether it's considered polite to talk openly abou it, which is not the case. It doesn't hurt to sometimes respect the local culture me thinks.
With kids, stuff moves through their mind pretty quickly, too. What was foremost in her mind yesterday may be shifted to one side by "Dora the Explorer" or "Hello Kitty" tomorrow and she'll be wittering on to her chums about that instead.

I doubt mum would be too upset if her daughter got a "blablabla" response to that.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:21
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

Gesundheit also comes from "God will grant you health".

So it's a similar meaning.



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interestingly--I've found that a Swiss person is always obliged (almost instinctively forced) to say g'sundheit when one sneezes.

As our working culture is english, I try to mirror this with our version...."Bless you" which stems from "God bless you"....but this is a faux pas in North American corporate culture.
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Gesundheit also comes from "God will grant you health".
no, there's absolutely no religious connotation with Gesundheit.
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Well she didn't specify which god, so I assume it is not because the little Indian girl believes in the competition. It shows a very advanced thinking process of the little girl, she is able to reason for herself and not be swayed by the over bearing nature of religious adults.

I myself from a young age (6) always wondered about the mental stability of the bearded guys that used to come to our school every month and talk in a strange staccato fashion about this guy Jesus and his un-noteworthy actions in a glassy eyed reverie. It is refreshing to learn that other children are enquiring bright and insuppressible


All that from her "blablabla"?

Back on topic. Id appreciate facts/experience of parents whose kids are enrolled in local schools. My daughter will be in Grade 1 in august, she´ll be spending more time then compared to kindergarten so i would really want to know if there´s written/unwritten rules about this.
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so i would really want to know if there´s written/unwritten rules about this.
see Simon's and my replies.
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Gesundheit also comes from "God will grant you health".

So it's a similar meaning.
Couldn't find a God reference to it but...

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All that from her "blablabla"?

Back on topic. Id appreciate facts/experience of parents whose kids are enrolled in local schools. My daughter will be in Grade 1 in august, she´ll be spending more time then compared to kindergarten so i would really want to know if there´s written/unwritten rules about this.
Specifically about religion or general stuff like "always have a clean sports kit with you"?
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:31
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Gesundheit also comes from "God will grant you health".

So it's a similar meaning.

Interesting----I always figured it was simply a version of "To Health!"

On that note, the Swiss working culture is definitely a lot less stringent when it comes to political correctness.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:33
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All that from her "blablabla"?

Back on topic. Id appreciate facts/experience of parents whose kids are enrolled in local schools. My daughter will be in Grade 1 in august, she´ll be spending more time then compared to kindergarten so i would really want to know if there´s written/unwritten rules about this.
Ok, I'm sorry... you've been amazingly well informed by many many people on this thread.


Is there a written rule: NO!

Will it likely cause social awkwardness in a "humble" and international society like Switzerland: YES!
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Can you please stop? This is rubbish! It's America who can't leave religion alone. It's the only country in the West that desperately needs it's Church and State constitutional separation and in spite of that is still rife with Bible Belt Klansmen, televangelists, door knockers and holy rollers. And only in America (and...Saudi etc) if you're an atheist you're soulless. One nation under God. Yeah.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:36
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is this my bat signal?
He's just trolling..you know how Brits get when they run out of tea.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:40
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He's just trolling..you know how Brits get when they run out of tea.
Yes, they turn into Americans.
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Old 01.06.2011, 11:41
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"blablabla" would have been my answer age 6 as well.
It would be my answer at 32 as well... i think it's important that children learn that religion is not universal and that not all kids believe in the same thing in the same way. Most importantly that you should be tolerant about other views even if you don't agree with them. And yes, I would expect negative reactions if the kid tries to convince others of your belief system. From what I remember in your other thread are you not exactly a run-off-the-mill protestant and that not trying to convince others of Christianity might be difficult for somebody with evangelistic views... if you'd try with me you'd get a negative reaction and the same is true for most Swiss. So yes, bringing up religion at a dinner party is not that appreciated here.
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So yes, bringing up religion at a dinner party is not that appreciated here.

Would that be a dinner party in grade school? Because ive never heard of one.
Well, i have been approached by her teachers a few times here about my daughter and they are not really good english speakers. Im not a very good german speaker though i understand more than 50% day to day conversations. Therefore asking in her school wouldnt be so productive.

So forgive me if i would like to read more from your experiences.
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

wow lighten up people, two children, 6 years olds, talking...and one said something about God...there is nothing fundamentalist about that, there is no secret agenda...do not make it into something that it is not...

just pathetic to deeper analyze the "situation"...
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All that from her "blablabla"?

Back on topic. Id appreciate facts/experience of parents whose kids are enrolled in local schools.
I gave you mine. Problem is, it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

This is what we've done with eldest. Perhaps it may help you to understand the other view point:

I'm not bothering to explain God to my son any more than some people choose to believe in things that don't really exist but it helps them through life to believe in these things. And that's it unless he has more questions.

He understands evolution pretty well as to him, it makes a lot of sense but when he asked about how the world was created and I tried to explain the big bang, he merely looked at me and said, "So what was there before the big bang?".
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