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Old 01.06.2011, 12:13
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wow lighten up people, two children, 6 years olds, talking...and one said something about God...there is nothing fundamentalist about that, there is no secret agenda...do not make it into something that it is not...

just pathetic to deeper analyze the "situation"...
As pathetic as your quick read over the answers and not understanding what people here posted? We didn't analyze the situation, we stated what's culturally accepted here in CH, as the OP requested. Kids talk rubbish and so they should, but when her daughter gets older it might be good for her to know that God small-talk isn't done here, as stated several times by several posters.
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Old 01.06.2011, 12:18
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

Ok, I stay corrected. I just thought so because older people in some Swiss regions say so.

So I guess it's not true. Or maybe it is.

I can definitely say the Gesundheit you always hear here and there, has no reference to God. Maybe the original meaning has.



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no, there's absolutely no religious connotation with Gesundheit.
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Interesting----I always figured it was simply a version of "To Health!"

On that note, the Swiss working culture is definitely a lot less stringent when it comes to political correctness.
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Old 01.06.2011, 12:22
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Would that be a dinner party in grade school? Because ive never heard of one.
Well, i have been approached by her teachers a few times here about my daughter and they are not really good english speakers. Im not a very good german speaker though i understand more than 50% day to day conversations. Therefore asking in her school wouldnt be so productive.

So forgive me if i would like to read more from your experiences.
I don't quite get what you would want to ask the school? You got some ten replies by now that there are no formal rules but everyone will avoid religious discussions. Your religion is considered something fairly private here and nothing to talk about unless you go to a specificly religious event.

The kid gave her opinion on God, the other one did not want to hear it. I believe there is nothing you should be doing except of explaining your daughter that religion is a sensitive topic and not everyone wants to hear her opinion about it. She should limit the god discussions to the religion lessons or other religious activities.
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Old 01.06.2011, 12:31
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I don't quite get what you would want to ask the school? You got some ten replies by now that there are no formal rules but everyone will avoid religious discussions. Your religion is considered something fairly private here and nothing to talk about unless you go to a specificly religious event.

The kid gave her opinion on God, the other one did not want to hear it. I believe there is nothing you should be doing except of explaining your daughter that religion is a sensitive topic and not everyone wants to hear her opinion about it. She should limit the god discussions to the religion lessons or other religious activities.
Just a hunch, but I think she's going to carry on asking the same question over and over again until she gets a response she likes.
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Old 01.06.2011, 14:38
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Questioning one's surroundings and only accepting a logical and worked answer and admitting the lack of knowledge in an area is the beginning of science.
Accepting blindly inadequate answers and indicating that you know implicitly how things have come to be and how things will eventually end, based on a highly dubious premise, is the door way to delusion.
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As pathetic as your quick read over the answers and not understanding what people here posted? We didn't analyze the situation, we stated what's culturally accepted here in CH, as the OP requested. Kids talk rubbish and so they should, but when her daughter gets older it might be good for her to know that God small-talk isn't done here, unless in drun... deep discussion, as stated several times by several posters.
Fixed that for you
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Old 01.06.2011, 14:51
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

I wouldnt mind closing the thread but i just got a note about a teacher-parent meeting. It is to inform the parents of how the primary school will be like. Id like to share if they mention anything about this. I didnt say i dont like the answers i got. Thanks for all the input. Its just that one comment said something that contradicted the others (crucifix taken down from a classroom?)

So ja, of course ive told my daughter that there are other beliefs besides ours and that if her friend is not interested then dont talk about it anymore. But i wouldnt allow her to use "blablabla" in any kind of conversation. No more questions here, you can all stop hating me now.
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you can all stop hating me now.
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Id like to share if they mention anything about this.
I don't hate you, I just don't get what you want... What do you want the new school to mention or what did you plan to discuss with the current guys? "How to behave regarding religion?" I think they have more pressing problems and most likely inform you more on timetables, transportation and other practical stuff.

Maybe you can explain the problem again, I do not see anyone doing anything bad here.
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Old 01.06.2011, 15:36
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Im not sure where to put this, is there a religious section here?

Im not really complaining in its full sense, but something my daughter told me yesterday kept me up last night.

My daughter is going to kindergarten and has a best friend. I say best friend because they both agree they like each other (after 3 months) very much and all they talk about is when my daughter is going to the friends house again and vice versa.

So the friend is Indian but raised here. She had lunch at our house one time and she is very nice and respectful. But yesterday my daughter told me that she was talking about God. Out of the blue she just makes statements like "all the things we see here, the nice things are made by god", very general stuff. The friend just went "blablablablabla". I know english as well as german speakers (the friend speaks both) say that.

Im sure this didnt happen just yesterday and she is still best friends with the girl. She was also bothered but i dont think she got hurt with it. Here´s what im worried about...Does this have to do with the friend´s being indian or is it her swiss upbringing? If the latter, should i warn my daughter to not talk about God?

It is quite common in us (Indians) to 'preach' about 'God' , especially to the kids. It's a cultural thing to be a 'God fearing person'. Her blah blah would be very well due to the (over) preachings at home. I don't think it is something to worry about. And I don't think a 6 year old's blah blah could be against any religion
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Old 01.06.2011, 15:36
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Can you please stop? This is rubbish! It's America who can't leave religion alone. It's the only country in the West that desperately needs it's Church and State constitutional separation and in spite of that is still rife with Bible Belt Klansmen, televangelists, door knockers and holy rollers. And only in America (and...Saudi etc) if you're an atheist you're soulless. One nation under God. Yeah.

It's very true. But even lately in the US the line between Church and State is becoming so blurred that it's frightening. One of the reasons I did not hesitate to come to Switzerland.

Wait...whuuuut?
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Old 01.06.2011, 15:44
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Re: 6 year old says "bla bla bla" when daughter talks about God

I agree with a lot of the posts here that this situation provides a perfect opportunity for you to teach your daughter about the fact that not everyone will share her religious beliefs and about the importance of being mindful and tolerant of beliefs that differ from hers.

I think this is crucial if you want to raise an intelligent child, because children are such "sponges" and tend to instinctively believe everything they are told and taught. So I think the real issue for you here is whether you want to raise an intelligent and open-minded child or whether you want to raise a child that just automatically believes everything you tell her to believe.
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It's very true. But even lately in the US the line between Church and State is becoming so blurred that it's frightening. One of the reasons I did not hesitate to come to Switzerland.

Wait...whuuuut?
I agree. And my only hope is the line will start to become a bit less blurred now that Bush is finally out of office. (I fear that may only be wishful thinking, though).

But I actually find that the line is still quite blurred here in Switzerland. And I suspect this one of the reasons why, for example, Sunday is still, by law, a "quiet day of no work" -- which, if I'm not mistaken, is is remnant of Christian rule (?).
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But I actually find that the line is still quite blurred here in Switzerland. And I suspect this one of the reasons why, for example, Sunday is still, by law, a "quiet day of no work" -- which, if I'm not mistaken, is is remnant of Christian rule (?).
I would say it's a remnant but has probably been kept for convenience i.e. workers get Sunday (and Saturday) off to break up the week and it would be silly to randomly change this to a Monday and a Thursday, for example, in a display of moving to secular values.

Forcing people to go to church on a Sunday by a law, would be an in-your-face display of church getting involved with the state.
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Old 01.06.2011, 16:32
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I agree. And my only hope is the line will start to become a bit less blurred now that Bush is finally out of office. (I fear that may only be wishful thinking, though).

But I actually find that the line is still quite blurred here in Switzerland. And I suspect this one of the reasons why, for example, Sunday is still, by law, a "quiet day of no work" -- which, if I'm not mistaken, is is remnant of Christian rule (?).
But I do not see official Swiss military reports with Bible verses on the cover - on wars that the secretary of defence calls "crusade"...

Open the gates that the righteous nation may enter, The nation that keeps faith.” [The quote appears over an image of tanks entering an Iraqi city]

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...-bible-versus/
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Wasn't there a case where a teacher had to take down the crucifix from his class (in CH), not so long ago? My recollection is that it was mentioned on EF, and that there is a (written) rule about religious displays/icons, but I doubt there is a written rule about speaking about religion in a non-structured situation (i.e. child-child vs. teacher-child).

Or am I dreaming on this one?
No, but education is NOT a Federal affair but a Cantonal affair, administered by the Cantonal and by municipal governments. And so, in Catholic Cantons and even in Catholic towns in Protestant Cantons, you may find a Crucifix in many places.
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.... Out of the blue she just makes statements like "all the things we see here, the nice things are made by god", very general stuff. The friend just went "blablablablabla"...
Responding blablabla to any statement made in all innocence seems to me to be rather rude

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... Sunday is still, by law, a "quiet day of no work" -- which, if I'm not mistaken, is is remnant of Christian rule (?).
Which in itself is a remnant of a Jewish law.
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No, but education is NOT a Federal affair but a Cantonal affair, administered by the Cantonal and by municipal governments. And so, in Catholic Cantons and even in Catholic towns in Protestant Cantons, you may find a Crucifix in many places.
A couple of links about it... here and here...
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Old 01.06.2011, 16:59
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Which in itself is a remnant of a Jewish law.
This somehow makes it better?

Why are the beliefs of others always pushed? What if I like to rest on Wednesday? why do I have to follow Christian, Jewish or any other remnants that happen to be unamended?
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A couple of links about it... here and here...
As mentioned in the report, Wallis/Valais is as Catholic as Catholic can be. One remark however is wrong. The Papal guards also come from Freiburg, Solothurn, Luzern, Central Switzerland and Appenzell-Innerrhoden.
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