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Old 17.06.2011, 14:59
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

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Been there. It's frustrating, but it's just one of those things. (I've learned not to chase trams).

Drivers are on a schedule and if you start waiting then someone else comes along, then another, and so on.

Even if it's a single tram route, there'll be another along in seven minutes.

Take a breath, sing your kiddies a little song and you'll be on the next tram before you know it.
An Englishman should never run for a tram, train or bus. It is so undignified.

(OK, I did it once whilst soggy but the occasion had a happy ending)
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Old 17.06.2011, 15:00
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

Mmm don't think it was racist..... it was mean but I do agree with all the "keeping to schedule" etc comments. You know the Swissies and their time-keeping

I don't use the trams very often, actually, not at all these days really. Can't stand the crowds and the smell of stale breath!! Yukko!

One of my most moments, when I had only the tram to travel around Basel and get to work, was when I ran (in those days I could run pretty fast, obviously not fast enough in this case) for the tram and watched a guy watching me as the tram door closed, he grinned at me, his finger hovering over the button and then, with the same hand, he waved at me and I was left to watch the tram move away without me! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I didn't wish anything bad for him.... just the worst ever!!. Promptly learnt to drive and have never looked back!
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Old 17.06.2011, 15:00
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If you can see me running towards the tram....With a toddler running besides me....AND a baby in the pram...and i first get to a door without pram access(with stairs)...and i get to the next door which has pram access......you make sure the doors are shut right then...even though the tram stood there for 5 more seconds...it was humiliating...there was no misunderstanding the Tram driver didnt want us in...racist *******.
I was fuming but strangely I didnt know how to react then...but now I can think of a few things to yell at him!!
Playing the race card? Really? Like seriously? Dont even get me started on the number of times people have kept the door opened for this Asian when they've seen me running.

Logically speaking, can you imagine the chaos it will cause if all tram drivers stop and wait whenever they see someone running towards them? No more Swiss transport efficiency I tell you, and god knows how many people will pop an artery (me included).

Now if you'd excuse me, I simply must go unroll my eyes from the back of my head.
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Old 17.06.2011, 15:29
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An Englishman should never run for a tram, train or bus. It is so undignified.
I've perfected my "I'm not bothered. I didn't want that one anyway" look.

I tell you, I could be a cat.
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Old 17.06.2011, 16:08
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

This is what happened when the doors closed and the tram drove away.

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Old 17.06.2011, 16:39
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I've perfected my "I'm not bothered. I didn't want that one anyway" look.

I tell you, I could be a cat.
I was born with that look. My mother was not impressed.
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

wow...most of you have gone lengths thinking of excuses for the tram driver...
but hmmm yea lesson learnt...dont chase trams...

Thanks to all those who understood that I was just venting out! thanks for telling me its ok...lol...cause it really is a part of life...I get that.

and to be fair...now that I think about it...not all tram drivers are the same...some even....smile!!!

It not all bad...
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Old 18.06.2011, 00:51
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Mmm don't think it was racist..... it was mean but I do agree with all the "keeping to schedule" etc comments. You know the Swissies and their time-keeping

I don't use the trams very often, actually, not at all these days really. Can't stand the crowds and the smell of stale breath!! Yukko!

One of my most moments, when I had only the tram to travel around Basel and get to work, was when I ran (in those days I could run pretty fast, obviously not fast enough in this case) for the tram and watched a guy watching me as the tram door closed, he grinned at me, his finger hovering over the button and then, with the same hand, he waved at me and I was left to watch the tram move away without me! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I didn't wish anything bad for him.... just the worst ever!!. Promptly learnt to drive and have never looked back!
wow!! this beats my experience...
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Old 18.06.2011, 00:53
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I understand your frustration, but calling someone of a different race racist for doing something that displeases you is, well, racist .
strangely...I agree!
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An Englishman should never run for a tram, train or bus. It is so undignified.
.... silly me thought that a real dignified Englishman never takes tram or bus but a cab. I am learning so much on this forum
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Old 18.06.2011, 02:19
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

Was it this one?
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Old 18.06.2011, 03:36
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

i don't see why any train should stop or slow down for anyone, with or without child. it's bad luck, you missed it. i am sure it was not intentional on the part of the controller. hopefully tomorrow is a better day
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Old 20.06.2011, 23:32
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

I would have said nine times out of ten a tram driver will wait for you if it won't delay the tram too much and you are obviously making an effort to get to the tram. If a control light has gone to "go" and the doors are already locked then unfortunately it is too late. In Basel, there is rarely more than 10 minutes between trams unless you are travelling on the BLTs on a Sunday or bank holiday schedule in which case they are more like every 15 mins.

On the whole, I find public transport here clean, efficient, easy to understand the ticketing system. to be honest we are spoiled here. Compare it to London - it has taken me half an hour to figure out how to get from Heathrow to Streatham Common. And the prospect of traversing London with a small child in tow gives me the willies quite frankly. Also, if you have a pushchair etc, most tram passengers are good about letting you through and giving you a hand.

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Re: rude tram experience in basel

Not racist in any way. It happened to me twice last week, with pram. Swiss efficiency cuts both ways. Our alternative is to run faster I suppose...
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

Okay, in that case, compare it to a UK town of similar size...Basingstoke and Deane...now, how many trams in Basingstoke will wait while you dash for it with a pram?

There, I've got you now!

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Old 21.06.2011, 08:35
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

yesterday I watched a (Swiss?) woman board the tram and she literally sat right on the crack between the two seats, while a Muslim woman was preparing to sit next to her. The look exchanged was classic.

Racism/Classism/Xenophobia is rampant here, like nothing I've ever seen before. That said, I'm willing to believe the tram operator in the OP's case was keeping a schedule.

I've huffed it a few times to try and catch a tram and had the same thing happen. At least it's only 7 minutes until the next one.
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Old 21.06.2011, 09:19
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

The last time I took a tram in Zurich I realised after about 2 seconds that I was sat in the seat in front of a woman who clearly had incontinence and mental health issues. I really don't think the drivers are too fussy about who they let on
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Old 21.06.2011, 09:39
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yesterday I watched a (Swiss?) woman board the tram and she literally sat right on the crack between the two seats, while a Muslim woman was preparing to sit next to her. The look exchanged was classic.

Damn, the muslim woman clearly didn't get the memo about not wearing her "Looks at me I'm a muslim" t-shirt in public
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Re: rude tram experience in basel

I can believe you assuming the driver was acting like an idiot but why racist? Why does it always have to be about race? It is getting old really...I know it happens but just to assume it really I dont get it
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