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I am glad that some of those understand what I meant.
When i decided to write about this issue, I was clueless where i should write, and thought, perhaps complaint corner was where i should go. My intention of writing was to find out if this thing really happening here in Switzerland, and also hopefully to caution the parents, cos who knew one of those kids could be yours...?? I did not intend to go against anyone who were alright with this or not.

To answer some of those concerns, yes, it was a big group of kids. Definitely more than 5. I didn't approach those adults, cos i am not a confrontation type of person. The kids were going in and out of the playground, lied down on the mat with the others (where the adults were also sitting there chatting). The group of kids consist of caucasians, one black (at least), and a couple of girls (who look likes from Southern American, cos they were quite tan) So, yes, the girls were naked too!
Since it was such a big group, I assume it could be from the kindergarten. These kids are not young toddlers, they are about 5-7 years old. So, if this is not kindergarten, when it happen during the morning time, (I clearly remembered i was meeting my friend there at 12pm, and shortly after the group had left), then where could this group be from?
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Old 26.06.2011, 17:31
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This morning at chinagarten, I was totally shocked and disgusted with the group of young boys and girls went totally naked running and playing around at the playground and the park. What really shocked me further was these group of young kindergarten kids were brought by two or three teachers to the park. And these teachers allowed them to go around naked!! These teachers supposed to be educating the young children, and should also understand that there are such paedophiles around, and they should keep the kids from such harm. Where is the morale here? I wonder what would the parents feel if they see their kids were running around naked like this??
Or tell me, does the society in Switzerland allows this to happen?
What a shocker: my newest grand daughter was born NaketA week ago
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Old 26.06.2011, 18:36
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What a shocker: my newest grand daughter was born NaketA week ago
Congratulation Pappy!

She is a cutie! I hope she is ok?
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Old 26.06.2011, 18:56
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Congratulation Pappy!

She is a cutie! I hope she is ok?
Tk`s Nil she is excellent health ,home today she was 4 weeks early
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I am glad that some of those understand what I meant.
When i decided to write about this issue, I was clueless where i should write, and thought, perhaps complaint corner was where i should go. My intention of writing was to find out if this thing really happening here in Switzerland, and also hopefully to caution the parents, cos who knew one of those kids could be yours...?? I did not intend to go against anyone who were alright with this or not.

To answer some of those concerns, yes, it was a big group of kids. Definitely more than 5. I didn't approach those adults, cos i am not a confrontation type of person. The kids were going in and out of the playground, lied down on the mat with the others (where the adults were also sitting there chatting). The group of kids consist of caucasians, one black (at least), and a couple of girls (who look likes from Southern American, cos they were quite tan) So, yes, the girls were naked too!
Since it was such a big group, I assume it could be from the kindergarten. These kids are not young toddlers, they are about 5-7 years old. So, if this is not kindergarten, when it happen during the morning time, (I clearly remembered i was meeting my friend there at 12pm, and shortly after the group had left), then where could this group be from?
First of all relax. To participate in a discussion forum does not require you to be "right" or to be from that particular village where people are always right.
Second, try to get an idea about the different opinions around from all the contributions in this thread
Third, try to build up your own opinion and position, using the input you got. Do not forget that YOU asked for these inputs


And, please abstain from that strange US term "Caucasian" ! Caucasians are people from Armenia, Georgia (NOT the US-state!) and Azerbaijan plus the adjoining region of Southern Russia ! What you mean here is described either as "Indo-Germanics" or very simply as "Europeans" .
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This morning at chinagarten, I was totally shocked and disgusted with the group of young boys and girls went totally naked running and playing around at the playground and the park. What really shocked me further was these group of young kindergarten kids were brought by two or three teachers to the park. And these teachers allowed them to go around naked!! These teachers supposed to be educating the young children, and should also understand that there are such paedophiles around, and they should keep the kids from such harm. Where is the morale here? I wonder what would the parents feel if they see their kids were running around naked like this??
Or tell me, does the society in Switzerland allows this to happen?

So, naked children playing in a parkÖ is that really such a bad thing? Iím sure it can be surprising, perhaps a bit weird, um, inappropriate, maybe some might actually feel awkward and uncomfortable seeing a bunch of kids running around like this, but disgusted? They are children, what can ever be really disgusting about them? Plus, you say they were playing, so it obviously means they were feeling good and comfortable just the way they were.
About getting sunburned, probably the teachers took precautions, they are after all trained to take good care of the kids. And as somebody already mentioned before, there is really no point in making such a big fuss about it, getting upset or start judging, since we donít know the facts. Of course, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, just as you are to yours, I just think being disgusted by the sight of young children playing naked is overreacting a bit.
For example, Iíve seen lots of children running around naked on the beach and right next to them young girls and quite old ladies posing topless. Now, that was something pretty disgusting (the naked tits in public of clearly +55 year olds I mean). Not to mention teenagers making out like some desperate crazy people, shoving their tongue down on each otherís throat on buses or wherever they feel like doing it.
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Iíve seen lots of children running around naked on the beach and right next to them young girls and quite old ladies posing topless. Now, that was something pretty disgusting (the naked tits in public of clearly +55 year olds I mean).
Though I agree with most of your post, I have to say I find this party quite hypocritical. What is the problem with +55 year old boobs? Should we only be allowed to show whatever God/Allah/Nature/Your Mom gave us if it is aesthetically pleasant to you? Because my big nose is a sign of beauty in Central America, but according to the European aesthetics I should have made a nose job a long time ago. Should I wear a veil so that it doesnít disturb the other 730,999,999 people here?

If grandma is ok with her body she has as much right to tan her breasts as any 20 year old, for heavenís sake. Letís not go that road!
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Old 28.06.2011, 15:08
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Ah, a discussion over the most beautiful creation of them all: the naked human body.
You obviously haven't seen mine then
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Old 28.06.2011, 15:14
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So, naked children playing in a park… is that really such a bad thing? I’m sure it can be surprising, perhaps a bit weird, um, inappropriate, maybe some might actually feel awkward and uncomfortable seeing a bunch of kids running around like this, but disgusted? They are children, what can ever be really disgusting about them? Plus, you say they were playing, so it obviously means they were feeling good and comfortable just the way they were.
About getting sunburned, probably the teachers took precautions, they are after all trained to take good care of the kids. And as somebody already mentioned before, there is really no point in making such a big fuss about it, getting upset or start judging, since we don’t know the facts. Of course, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, just as you are to yours, I just think being disgusted by the sight of young children playing naked is overreacting a bit.
For example, I’ve seen lots of children running around naked on the beach and right next to them young girls and quite old ladies posing topless. Now, that was something pretty disgusting (the naked tits in public of clearly +55 year olds I mean). Not to mention teenagers making out like some desperate crazy people, shoving their tongue down on each other’s throat on buses or wherever they feel like doing it.
You've obviously missed the point...however, what I completely disagree with, is your desription of topless 55+ year old women. I don't find them disgusting at all. As a matter of fact, some of them look more attractive than a young mid 20something year old woman.
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what I completely disagree with, is your desription of topless 55+ year old women. I don't find them disgusting at all. As a matter of fact, some of them look more attractive than a young mid 20something year old woman.
Hmmm... I'm not sure. I would need to study several subjects over a wide age range. I wonder if I could get a government grant for that.
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Hmmm... I'm not sure. I would need to study several subjects over a wide age range. I wonder if I could get a government grant for that.

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Though I agree with most of your post, I have to say I find this party quite hypocritical. What is the problem with +55 year old boobs? Should we only be allowed to show whatever God/Allah/Nature/Your Mom gave us if it is aesthetically pleasant to you? Because my big nose is a sign of beauty in Central America, but according to the European aesthetics I should have made a nose job a long time ago. Should I wear a veil so that it doesnít disturb the other 730,999,999 people here?

If grandma is ok with her body she has as much right to tan her breasts as any 20 year old, for heavenís sake. Letís not go that road!

I think you misunderstood, or maybe I wasnít clear enough. I apologize. What I meant was, naked kids in public Ė ok with me, naked boobs in public Ė not so ok, regardless the ageÖ
I was just saying, I would much more easily be disgusted by naked grown ups in public than by kids. Although Iím not sure disgusted is the appropriate word. I simply donít like it, thatís all. Plus, I was talking about my own experience, I wasnít trying to generalize. What I didnít mention because I was in a hurry, was the fact that I was sitting next to this group of ladies who apart from the fact that was almost naked, had an uneducated behaviour as well, one girl actually fooled around squeezing her breasts and licking her fingers, they were also yelling and making a lot of noise, they were making fun of every single person who passed them by, at one point there was a pregnant woman who walked by me then right in front of them, and they started talking to each other quite loud, saying stuff like ď Oh, my, look at that, I canít believe she is wearing that, you can see her belly!!Ē and then ďYeah, that is so disgusting, I would be so ashamedĒÖ so, I guess all that kind of talk plus the fact that they were topless in an area quite full of kids (I was there with a friend and her two young boys, who then started fooling around by squeezing their motherís breasts) made me feel disgusted. Aesthetics have nothing to do with it.
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Wow so many pages about chuff all. The usual EF Storm in a Teacup?

Observations: Singathinga German notta..... and 55-year-old boobs can be nice, certainly the mother-in-law has nice ones and likes the sun.

I remember playing in playgrounds with concrete slabs, swinging on swings, going on roundabouts and so on.......that's been forbidden now hasn't it? Save many lives, that....

Oh and seatbelts in the back of cars? I SURVIVED! Anyone else?
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My intention of writing was to find out if this thing really happening here in Switzerland, and also hopefully to caution the parents, cos who knew one of those kids could be yours...??
And I would be delighted if it was my kid. I respect and even understand the fact that you do not think it is ok. But now try and think:
- teachers do know the rules and regulations that apply to them and the kids
- you are a private person whose private opinion teachers in this country do not need to take into consideration as long as the rules and regulation applying to the professional situation are respected
- the fact that this situation accured should lead you to think "nackedness of infants is seen differently here than in the culture I identify myself with" rather than "I really have to save this country's children because their schools and governments have no idea what they are doing".

Am I clear or should I express myself even more directly? I need formal authorization of moderation for that as the result would be considered rude in some cultures.
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I remember being a bit freaked the first time I was invited to a mixed sauna up in the land of the midnight sun....and, well, I got over it with enough beer. Everyone was was, like, so?
Go Finland! There is nothing more natural in the world then a naked child! They are so unaware of themselves that it's beautiful!

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You've obviously missed the point...however, what I completely disagree with, is your desription of topless 55+ year old women. I don't find them disgusting at all. As a matter of fact, some of them look more attractive than a young mid 20something year old woman.
I do NOT believe that the age is the prime aspect about ......
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