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Old 22.06.2011, 16:53
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Lift etiquette

How hard is it?

You want to go up in the lift you press the "up" button. You want to go down in the lift you press the "down" button.

Why does everyone in Switzerland press both buttons and get in the lift regardless of the direction it is going?

Today at the supermarket with two levels of underground parking I am waiting at the bottom level for the lift to go up. When it finally arrives I stand back to let the woman out but she is not getting out. She is just standing there impatiently looking annoyed. So we get in and the lift goes up but on the way to the shopping level it stops at the first underground car park level. Presumably this is where she got on after pressing both buttons. Now she is annoyed because the lift stopped and there is nobody there! I wonder why?

In the Sihl City car park lifts, the situation is 10 times worse. The lifts are full of people going all the way to the bottom so that they can go one floor up, or going all the way to the top so they can go one floor down.

I think I preferred it in Hong Kong when people would see you coming and press the "close" button. It least it was rational behaviour and made for an efficient service.

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Old 22.06.2011, 16:55
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How hard is it?

You want to go up in the lift you press the "up" button. You want to go down in the lift you press the "down" button.
I do this...

Can't press one button and leave the other one out. I have to fight the urge to press the button with the bell on it too, just to see what will happen...
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Old 22.06.2011, 16:56
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I think I preferred it in Hong Kong when people would see you coming and press the "close" button. It least it was rational behaviour and made for an efficient service.

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I am not sure that I understand your post. Do you really think that the HK behaviour above is an example of etiquette?
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:01
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I am not sure that I understand your post. Do you really think that the HK behaviour above is an example of etiquette?
No, it's that at least it makes sense. Pressing both buttons when you clearly only want to go in one direction is just moronic. Even if you can get into the elevator faster by some chance, any time gained will be more than lost when you start going the wrong way.

I think it goes in line with the pushing to get into the train and therefore blocking people from getting out idea...
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:03
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Re: Lift etiquette

At my local Coop people get in the lift if there is a space regardless of the direction the lift is travelling as it is the only way to gaurantee a place. If you don't just jump in when you can you can be stood waiting for ages for one going in the right direction.
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:09
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Pressing both buttons when you clearly only want to go in one direction is just moronic.
I feel so much better now...
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:13
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In the Sihl City car park lifts, the situation is 10 times worse. The lifts are full of people going all the way to the bottom so that they can go one floor up, or going all the way to the top so they can go one floor down.
Easy remedy: ONLY park at levels 0, 2 and 4 which have direct access to the mall. Unless you are going on Saturday afternoon is level four rarely full. If you have to use the lift for the shopping, use then the ones INSIDE the mall, not the parking - much faster as hardly used.
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:15
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Re: Lift etiquette

some lifts have a control panel where you type in what floor you want to go to and it sends you to the appropriate lift.
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:19
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Lift etiquette should incorporate a rule that says able bodied people without strollers shouldn't be so flipping lazy and take the stairs.

I don't know how much of my life I have wasted standing waiting for a lift only to have one ping open and be full to bursting with lazy buggers who should use the stairs (which are often escalators in many shops!!).

The buggy, consequently, wasn't a long standing feature when we discovered a baby carrier...
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:22
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Re: Lift etiquette

My apartment lift is a bit funny.

Once I pressed the down button and stood there waiting. There are two lifts and there wasn't much action going on. Then some old lady came along and pressed the up button...and low and behold...an up lift came immediately. She then sauntered into the lift and pressed whatever button she wanted.


The door then opened again, now with a down arrow

So I then saunter in....we both get off at the ground floor.

Thank you old lady...if it weren't for you I'd never have discovered this trick.
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pressed the up button...and low and behold...an up lift came immediately.
I think i got this logic.. you press the "up" button for the cart to reach you and once you in, you press the appropiate "button" for the next direction instruction.

I am glad I am not programming lifts in Switzerland.. as i don't know German, what gender is lift please?
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:34
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Easy remedy: ONLY park at levels 0, 2 and 4 which have direct access to the mall. Unless you are going on Saturday afternoon is level four rarely full. If you have to use the lift for the shopping, use then the ones INSIDE the mall, not the parking - much faster as hardly used.
Use the stairs?
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Use the stairs?
The one in Sihlcity suck: Must be fire safety or something, but they put on double doors of heavy steel which are hard to open, let alone with shopping bags. Then there are typically groups of teenagers sitting on them listening to music and smoking (not only tobacco).

So I dont.
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Old 22.06.2011, 17:43
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Easy remedy: ONLY park at levels 0, 2 and 4 which have direct access to the mall. Unless you are going on Saturday afternoon is level four rarely full. If you have to use the lift for the shopping, use then the ones INSIDE the mall, not the parking - much faster as hardly used.
Parking on the even levels and using the internal lifts is part of the strategy but there are those odd (unintended pun!) occasions where it can't be done. The stairs in the car park are very uninviting and a long way from the lifts.
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At my local Coop people get in the lift if there is a space regardless of the direction the lift is travelling as it is the only way to gaurantee a place. If you don't just jump in when you can you can be stood waiting for ages for one going in the right direction.
That's because it's full of people going in the wrong direction and stopping twice as often as it needs to.
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Just make sure the lift is there when the doors open, people.
Doesn't matter a jot whether it's going up or down.
It's never more than a few minutes of your time.
I once fell down a liftshaft because the doors opened, I stepped in, and was suddenly in a black hole, covered in blood and screaming.
It took an hour for someone to hear and call the police.
I had fallen 3 floors and obviously lived to tell the tale.
Messed up my spine, my knees, my head and my nervous system a bit though.
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Old 22.06.2011, 18:04
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Can't press one button and leave the other one out. I have to fight the urge to press the button with the bell on it too, just to see what will happen...
Stay away from any big red buttons then!
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Re: Lift etiquette

I think there is something about people here and shopping that just drains them of all etiquette and common sense.

The elevator behaviour referred to here (just jump in to be sure of 'getting a space') is accompanied by the incredible sight in my local Coop when an extra checkout till position is opened. No 'after you Claude' or somesuch - no way - suddenly all these normally reserved, conservative ultra-middle class folk abandon all notions of manners and just dive for the newly opened till in a display that would make starving refugees gathered round a bread truck blush. All this occurs regardless of who had been waiting longest providing a fore-warning of what societal collapse might look like!
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I think i got this logic.. you press the "up" button for the cart to reach you and once you in, you press the appropiate "button" for the next direction instruction.

I am glad I am not programming lifts in Switzerland.. as i don't know German, what gender is lift please?
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Just make sure the lift is there when the doors open, people.
Doesn't matter a jot whether it's going up or down.
It's never more than a few minutes of your time.
I once fell down a liftshaft because the doors opened, I stepped in, and was suddenly in a black hole, covered in blood and screaming.
Ouch!

Something similar happened to Murray Walker at home.
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