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Old 25.07.2011, 18:23
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Re: Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?

I have developed a theory on the lack of social skills I've encountered here.

School kids who go home for lunch do not learn to socialise outside their comfort zone. I mean think about the years of 'big lunches' you had to endure/enjoy as a kid - mingling with other 'cliqs', finding mates in different classes, playing sports with kids of different ages, bullying or getting bullied, blah blah blah. Now if I am correct a lot of kids in Switzerland go home for lunch and thus miss out on these formative experiences.

So next time someone says something daft after an introduction - you know why.
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:31
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How should I reply to the next "ah, Italy...mafia!!"?????
I think you answered your own question pretty well. Do it and watch them squirm! I would

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"I'm swiss" with "oh, the country of the dirty/washed money of all the mafia from all around the world" or "ah, the country who screwed the Jewish keeping their money after they were dead because of the war, instead of giving it back to the families" and so on...
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:32
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Re: Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?

dude i am from Pakistan and I always get the reaction "Oh, really? The Taliban country!" or "Oh, do you know any Taliban? , you know where Osama was hiding" and my funny reply is.. may be i am naive but i always thought all german speakers were Nazis (punkt) silence for long time

I know two wrongs, dont make a right.....but they make us even
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:37
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Just smile sweetly, whilst brandishing your violin case
.. or stick a horses head in their bed.
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Re: Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?

C'mon EF people. Stereotyping on this forum is pretty common.

Social/soft skills: do EF members have any? Which one?
The answer is yes! I know a few and I'm sure there are more.

Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?
The answer is yes! I know a few and I'm sure there are more.

But do all EF members have any? Maybe not.
Same as for the Swiss.
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:58
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.. or stick a horses head in their bed.

hehehe reminds me of this

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Old 25.07.2011, 19:13
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C'mon EF people. Stereotyping on this forum is pretty common.

Social/soft skills: do EF members have any? Which one?
The answer is yes! I know a few and I'm sure there are more.

Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?
The answer is yes! I know a few and I'm sure there are more.

But do all EF members have any? Maybe not.
Same as for the Swiss.
Nobody's really exempt, true that.
It's interesting, might be the area too, but I haven't heard any stereotypes about Italians here at all, in fact people start salivating about the great food and sleek shoes..

A friend here went to my homeland for a visit and when he came back he said "I loved it, I was shocked, since people aren't really fat there at all" , wtf, hahaha..
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Dear all,

maybe it's just my problem, because I come from a specific country, but in three years I've been in Switzerland I experienced so many times the weird behavior of the swiss people that I can't take it anymore. For ex, every time I reply to their question "Where do you come from?" with "I come from Italy" I always get the reaction "Oh, really? The mafia country!" or "Oh, do you know any mafia guy?" or "Ah, mafia! Mamma mia!".
To my Irish friend they replied "Ah, Ireland, no money! Ahahahah"
Do the swiss know the term "gaffe"? Do they understand that is offensive, politicly incorrect, unpolite, the opposite of diplomatic and friendly to label a foreigneir with the most negative characteristic of his/her Heimat (country of origin)??? How they react if I/you would reply to their "I'm swiss" with "oh, the country of the dirty/washed money of all the mafia from all around the world" or "ah, the country who screwed the Jewish keeping their money after they were dead because of the war, instead of giving it back to the families" and so on... In no country and with no other nationality I experienced such a luck of galateo, manners. How should I reply to the next "ah, Italy...mafia!!"?????
sorry for the "swiss" asking you these questions, so here's some questions for you:

How do you know they were swiss? Are you mistakenly assuming that ONLY Swiss folk in this country ask these questions, while all the other nationalities dont?
Have you ever tried googling something such as "GDP mafia Italy" and looking at the results? NYT and BBC are in the top 10 hits, each estimating roughly 7% and 15% respectively

Fact of the matter is, no matter where you go in the world, as scottish, or english, or swiss, or mexican or WHATEVER, you'll be stereotyped by folk with either bad humor or lack of knowledge. Get f'kin used to it and try to think of a smart reply, rather than being an over-sensitive stereotypical fool as you're being right now.

And for your information, you can't use "the country who screwed the Jewish keeping their money after they were dead because of the war," as an example of the Swiss. Check your facts, you mafioso spaghetti-eating fiat-loving greaseball. (just kidding with the names..)

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Old 25.07.2011, 19:21
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I have developed a theory on the lack of social skills I've encountered here.

School kids who go home for lunch do not learn to socialise outside their comfort zone. I mean think about the years of 'big lunches' you had to endure/enjoy as a kid - mingling with other 'cliqs', finding mates in different classes, playing sports with kids of different ages, bullying or getting bullied, blah blah blah. Now if I am correct a lot of kids in Switzerland go home for lunch and thus miss out on these formative experiences.

So next time someone says something daft after an introduction - you know why.
That's daft! The children who go home are learning to sit and have good table manners, chat with the family about all sorts of things, may be involved with setting the table, clearing up etc.

From personal observation, I have found that there are folk of many nationalites who make the sorts of racist generalised comments that the OP is complaining about. Generally, it is not meant to be taken seriously, but as friendly banter, and often happens when first meeting someone. I agree that it can get rather tiring after a while, think of it as a game of tennis and just lob a friendly jibe back. If it is a reoccurring issue as with frequent comments from colleagues, then politely tell them that you find the comments offensive, embarressing or whatever.
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Old 25.07.2011, 19:36
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there is organised crime from every country.
Calling it organised in England might be pushing the boat a little far out.
I might settle for syndicated.
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Re: Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?

The answer for my ' Im from Poland' was : ohhhhhhh you steal cars!!

This man from italian speaking part made me sad. I didnt know if I should have laughed or cried.
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Re: Social/soft skills: do the swiss have any? Which one?

I find this thread very surprising. The other day I was commenting to a (Swiss) friend of mine about how much I like living in Switzerland because I don't get a stereotypical response when I say where I'm from.

My conversations tend to go like this:

"Where are you from?"

"I'm English."

"Oh? Where in England?"

"Essex."

"Is that near London?"

etc....

Whereas in England I generally got comments about being an 'Essex girl'. It's nice to have finally escaped that particular stereotype!

Now, I get to talk about how I come from the oldest recorded town in Britain without people making jokes about white sandals and fishnet tights!
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School kids who go home for lunch do not learn to socialise outside their comfort zone.
Interesting.

What about those of us who go home from work for lunch (half the people I know)?

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the weird behavior of the swiss people that I can't take it anymore. For ex, every time I reply to their question "Where do you come from?" with "I come from Italy" I always get the reaction "Oh, really? The mafia country!" or "Oh, do you know any mafia guy?" or "Ah, mafia! Mamma mia!".
It's not only the swiss, in my experience the germans are even more annoying with the mafia joke. It's a regular thing that every time we italians are having a coffee break some german colleagues walk in and the mamma-mia-mafia-pizza-spaghetti thing starts. The temptation to answer back with SS-Gestapo-gas chambers is very strong

I work in a big multinational company with people from all over the world, and this stupid mafia joke comes only from the germans, and to a lesser extent from the swiss.

My theory is that it's sheer envy of Italy's food, weather, culture, history, art, design, fashion, wine, sport cars and so on
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For ex, every time I reply to their question "Where do you come from?" with "I come from Italy" I always get the reaction "Oh, really? The mafia country!" or "Oh, do you know any mafia guy?" or "Ah, mafia! Mamma mia!".
So what you're saying is that the mafia is not from Italy ?
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It's a regular thing that every time we italians are having a coffee break some german colleagues walk in and the mamma-mia-mafia-pizza-spaghetti thing starts. The temptation to answer back with SS-Gestapo-gas chambers is very strong


Sorry, you can't answer like that. The proper answer to

"mamma-mia-mafia-pizza-spaghetti" is

"Führer-heil-Kartoffel-Sauerkraut und Eisbein"
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Sorry, you can't answer like that. The proper answer to

"mamma-mia-mafia-pizza-spaghetti" is

"Führer-heil-Kartoffel-Sauerkraut und Eisbein"
I'll rösti your fondue, you horse-eating servelat!
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your choice....
If you don't confess your sins, you'll go to hell. And "everyone in Hell speaks Spanish, that in Hell there is water, but if you drink it you will pee blood out your ass for 7 hours, and there are dozens and dozens of trinket stores but they all sell the same trinkets."

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Yep, I've been to ensenada.
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