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Old 01.08.2011, 03:31
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I thought for sure this thread would have died out on Saturday. Shows what I know.
We're doing our best to keep it alive until Joos replies, first thing Tuesday morning I expect.
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Old 01.08.2011, 09:41
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Exactly, she spends more money on groceries than I earn in a month. Or than people with full-time jobs spend on their rent.
I was wondering when this would be raised. I knew it was only a question of time ... and goes some way to explaining some of the replies.
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Old 01.08.2011, 09:53
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Exactly, she spends more money on groceries than I earn in a month. Or than people with full-time jobs spend on their rent.



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I was wondering when this would be raised. I knew it was only a question of time ... and goes some way to explaining some of the replies.
But so do I, and I don't complain!

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I was wondering when this would be raised. I knew it was only a question of time ... and goes some way to explaining some of the replies.
Why the OP felt the urge to mention exactly how much she spends on groceries every week... If she had spent say half of the amount, would she have been less entitled to "better services"?
For all I know, most of people don't put up with smugness. Except, maybe, the English.
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I was wondering when this would be raised. I knew it was only a question of time ... and goes some way to explaining some of the replies.
Your insight is startling sometimes!
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Old 01.08.2011, 10:33
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Old 01.08.2011, 10:39
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Old 01.08.2011, 10:47
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Why the OP felt the urge to mention exactly how much she spends on groceries every week...
I think the idea was so that we could have an idea of the amount of stuff to be bagged (two shopping carts full to the brim or so).

But really, if you buy that much stuff weekly, why not do several smaller trips?

I go shopping daily, but that involves popping into the local Denner on my walk to or from work, and maybe a trip at noon to the local Manor and/or Migros once a week.

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Old 01.08.2011, 10:52
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But really, if you buy that much stuff weekly, why not do several smaller trips?
Or have a Lovely Little Man deliver it.
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:01
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I take great delight in judging those who treat those who serve them with contempt.

I see them all the time, in shops, restaurants and cafes: they're the ones who despise the waiters and assistants, the ones who are rude to them, who refuse to tip, who complain incessantly about trivial things.

These are the people who have clearly never done an honest day's work in their lives: they are media consultants or aromatherapists or life coaches. They have probably never worked a twelve hour shift with barely half an hour to rest their feet. They have probably never cleaned a stranger's excrement smeared over the floor of a public lavatory. They have probably never sat at a conveyor belt all day, having customers sneering and tutting at them for daring to enjoy a ten second break once every half hour.

You can spot them a mile off: I once saw a poor kid, clearly harassed and overworked, being yelled at by a customer because the shop was "short-staffed and needed better management". The girl couldn't have been much over 19. She had no control over staffing and was doing the best she could in difficult circumstances.

The initial post in this thread is just the internet version of the incident above. The contempt of the OP for the poor buggers who work on supermarket checkouts is clear as day.

I have no sympathy for the OP, but quite a lot for the people she condemns.

If that makes me an inverted snob, then I shall wear that label with pride.
I think you have recognized and classified the type correctly and I absolutely agree with you on principle; however, I’m not so sure we can safely assume that people doing certain job will always act contemptuously towards those wo serve them. I know some nouveau riche, who used to do physical work, but would rather forget about it, hence their smug behaviour.
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:18
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Re: Dear Joos.....

I don't actually like this new fangled service of having someone pack your bags for you. Back in Yorkshire our local Asda (Walmart type supermarket) introduced it and, good on them, they would employ local people who had problems of one sort or another if you know what I mean.

The first time I went in there after they had started this service I only had a few things so I declined the offer of help with packing and started to put stuff in my bags myself when a little old lady came up to me and patted me on the head and said....

"I think it's wonderful that they employ people like you!"

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Old 01.08.2011, 11:19
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Re: Dear Joos.....

I have no opinion on the customer service issue (or rather I do, but I've lived here long enough to have been granted the serenity to accept the things I cannot change ) but I did want to comment on this bit:


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But really, if you buy that much stuff weekly, why not do several smaller trips?

I go shopping daily, but that involves popping into the local Denner on my walk to or from work, and maybe a trip at noon to the local Manor and/or Migros once a week.
Not everyone can conveniently stop off at the market on the way home.

Actually, for some of us getting out of the house is a rare event, requiring planning and coordination and expense.

(I cannot leave the house unless I schedule someone else to stay at home. I either need to coordinate my shopping with my husband's schedule - i.e., do it on the rare Saturday when he is available, or call in a sitter. A sitter doubles the shopping bill, and both options need significant advance notice.)

The model where one shops daily doesn't work for some, perhaps many, families. Online shopping is OK for non-perishibles, but not for perishable foodstuffs; for some the only option is the 'big' shopping trip.

Now back to customer service...
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:32
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Re: Dear Joos.....

If the Swiss are to do something to help folks with kids and tight schedules they should serve lunch at school like the rest of civilization. Kid eats mystery meat and boiled potatoes and Mom and Dad can work full time jobs to afford daycare on Wednesday afternoons.
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:45
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I was wondering when this would be raised. I knew it was only a question of time ... and goes some way to explaining some of the replies.
In my experience, money does not generally improve people's character... If someone has that much to spend on just groceries, they must be very financially fortunate indeed. Not everyone who earns well is arrogant with a sense of entitlement but a lot of them are, especially if they are not quite rich enough to be REALLY rich, if the money is still very new or the money is being earned by someone else, i.e. daddy or darling.

If you are earning THAT much, you can afford to have someone take care of the kids while you shop, removing one stress factor. You can't expect Coop to change a working system just because YOU can't get your head around it, nay, REFUSE to do so.
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In my experience, money does not generally improve people's character... If someone has that much to spend on just groceries, they must be very financially fortunate indeed. Not everyone who earns well is arrogant with a sense of entitlement but a lot of them are, especially if they are not quite rich enough to be REALLY rich, if the money is still very new or the money is being earned by someone else, i.e. daddy or darling.
This is a great thread by the way, OP - nice job!

Its a good question, Kittster......does money make nice people bad, or are nice people too nice to make big money?? I think more of the latter personally....you have to be a bit mean and selfish to make big bucks

(Of course, not always true....but generally in my experience)
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:52
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That is an excellent point, but then how does this explain the arrogance of the partners of those who were nasty enough to make big bucks? Also - some guys earn well because they are brilliant and work very hard, sadly, for some reason, today's manager tends to hire the guy who can talk about all the great things he does rather than the guy who actually does them.
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Old 01.08.2011, 11:57
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Re: Dear Joos.....

It's not directly to do with money (earnt, stolen, inherited) but whether or not one is spoilt. Sometimes, however, one is simply frustrated with things and needs to rant.

However, the continuation of the the OP's contributions would imply the former. But who knows. Maybe they're still frustrated. And many of us have conspired to keep her that way
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In my experience, the immensely rich are pretty cool. But then, the immensely rich probably don't do their own shopping in the Coop with a couple of fractious small people in tow.

No... my problem with the OP stems from:

  • her apparent contempt for those beneath her station;
  • her rather hysterical responses to earlier replies in the thread;
  • the insistence that the English way is the proper way and the Swiss have it all wrong;
  • the fact that her initial rant wasn't very entertaining.
I admit that I filled in lots of gaps - but I bet I'm right, all the same.
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I do feel guilty at checkout when they’re bagging all my groceries. Talk about feeling lazy. ‘Hey, thanks for putting my groceries in my bag. Yeah I could help, but I’ll just watch. I’m exhausted from picking that crap out. You wanna come home and watch me eat ‘em? I’m lookin’ for a buddy.’
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