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Old 09.08.2011, 09:42
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Like other countries the Swiss maintained that it never got into the human food chain - something the UK readily admits to even though there was never specific proof - not one case.

The cases of CJD during that period are even now being questioned as they can occur in other circumstances. The number of reported cases of CJD in the UK was, however, much, much higher than normal and it would be hard to argue that it wasn't due to BSE. Gut feeling is it had to be but does that mean we are all an epidemic waiting to incubate? Latest thought is the incubation period may be as long as 60 years (hence the questions on the "sudden" cases back in the early 90's - did these people pick it up in the 30's ??) although research has shown a mean incubation period of 9 to 15 years.

Interesting to see the stats are freely available - it was like trying to get blood out of a stone getting facts and figures back in the day.

USA still in denial though .
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Old 09.08.2011, 09:49
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

Also done here long ago: Giving Blood - information for all

I guess I must keep my A- to myself then

On the discussion side, would people rather a) bleed out or b) have a tiny tiny tiny tiny chance of having CJD but avoid bleeding out?

Seems too easy to answer for me
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Old 09.08.2011, 10:21
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On the discussion side, would people rather a) bleed out or b) have a tiny tiny tiny tiny chance of having CJD but avoid bleeding out?

Seems too easy to answer for me
I don't know for certain but I would be surprised if anyone in the western world bled out because of a lack of blood. Blood supplies run low but they never ever run out everywhere in a western country.

I blame the blame culture. If someone caught CJD from a blood product (a very very very very unlucky person), someone else would be held to blame and would face jail time. It happened with HIV in blood in France. And I think in China it's the death penalty.
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:19
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

Like tattoo, if you have a piercing they refuse you apparently, this is an other reason why I can't give blood....
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:20
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If you lived in England between 1980 & 1996 they're not interested
This has happened to me too in 2003 in South Korea.

One day everything went wrong for me, so I decided to do something Good for the world.
Hence, went to Red cross blood donation centre and I was told the same thing but the banned year of living the UK as blood donor was up to 1999.

When back to England in 2006, my blood was rejected again as the iron level was too law...
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:28
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

Last time I gave blood was after the Asian tsunami, they sucked me dry like vampires because they ran really short of my blood type, always forget if it's 0+ or 0-. Quite a funny sensation to be fully paralyzed, being only able to move your head and then slowly your vision starts to blur...
It only lasted 20 minutes or so and afterwards I was fine again, got mighty drunk that evening too, no idea why.
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:35
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Last time I gave blood was after the Asian tsunami, they sucked my dry like vampires as they ran really short of my blood, always forget if it's 0+ or 0-. Quite a funny sensation to be fully paralyzed, being only able to move your head and then slowly your vision starts to blur...
It only lasted 20 minutes or so and afterwards I was fine again, got mighty drunk that evening too, no idea why.
I never gave blood but this sounds like serious fun, better than any drug
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Last time I gave blood was after the Asian tsunami, they sucked my dry like vampires as they ran really short of my blood, always forget if it's 0+ or 0-. Quite a funny sensation to be fully paralyzed, being only able to move your head and then slowly your vision starts to blur...
It only lasted 20 minutes or so and afterwards I was fine again, got mighty drunk that evening too, no idea why.
Have no studies to support this, but just what I heard I don't remember where.... Apparently it is more difficult on men than women to give blood.... Something about women's blood being renewed every month.... Something like that. Scientifics of this forum can enlighten me?
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:38
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I guess I must keep my A- to myself then

On the discussion side, would people rather a) bleed out or b) have a tiny tiny tiny tiny chance of having CJD but avoid bleeding out?

Seems too easy to answer for me
It isn't about the patient. It is about the health authorities being liable, or worse culpable or criminally negligent, for using infected blood. Don't forget it is not just about blood transfusions in operations, it is also about any blood products used for a variety of illnesses.

There are cases of patients being infected with HIV, hepatitis amongst others, and subsequently dying. Whether, of course, there are true grounds for screening (or singling out) residents from the UK for CJD is another matter, but we know what the French are like vis-à-vis the British...
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:39
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

So, my post was deleted...what I meant to say was: hasn't this discussion been had already? Here
Anyhoo...
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:40
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Have no studies to support this, but just what I heard I don't remember where.... Apparently it is more difficult on men than women to give blood.... Something about women's blood being renewed every month.... Something like that. Scientifics of this forum can enlighten me?
Well it wasn't a normal amount they took as it was an emergency, they made a nation-wide call for my blood type (Thailand) so they probably just took the largest amount possible without putting me in danger. I panicked internally at first but as the nurses were calm I thought it must be ok.
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Well it wasn't a normal amount they took as it was an emergency, they made a nation-wide call for my blood type (Thailand) so they probably just took the largest amount possible without putting me in danger. I panicked internally at first but as the nurses were calm I thought it must be ok.
When you woke up from the blur, did you check for any scars around the kidney area... ......
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When you woke up from the blur, did you check for any scars around the kidney area... ......
Haha, I was conscious all the time, but couldn't talk (!!), couldn't move either arms or legs and couldn't see clearly. Was pretty effing scary at first, at least I could breathe properly. I could have also forgotten to tell them that I didn't get much sleep the night before... but that only puts me in danger, doesn't affect the blood.
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Well, just tried to be a good citizen and all that here in France, and give blood, and they don't want it......Why? Simply because I'm English.

If you lived in England between 1980 & 1996 they're not interested, because of the risk of CJD. Well stuff them, I will keep my blood thanks very much.
I would not take it personally if I were you, it is important to have these restrictions on the global blood reserves, we have similar restrictions in the UK, if you are gay or have had a blood transfusion before 1984 you are not a viable candidate for blood donation due to the risk of HIV transmission to the UK blood bank. Prion related diseases such as CJD could spread very quickly to the greater population in blood supplies, you should view your situation of being a non-viable donor just as public spirited as being a viable donor, you tried which is the main thing.

You should be thankful that they have these stringent regulations.
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Old 09.08.2011, 12:44
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

One time I went to give blood in the US, but they wouldn't let me because I'd spent more than 6 months in continental Europe. But, they let my friend donate--she'd spent 2 years in Tanzania doing Peace Corps!
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Old 09.08.2011, 12:48
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

Does the same UK-restrictions-thing apply if you want to donate your organs after death?

I'd hate to think of my spare parts going to waste just because I might be a mad cow...
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

I tried donating in the US and they said no because I came from an area where Malaria was endemic...WTF? Malaria in Lima? Plus there is a simple test for it...silly rules sometimes.
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

It took me 41 years to get the courage to finally go and give blood and I got knocked back.....arrrghhh.

I couldn't for years as I flew for a living, so not allowed, due to altitude and all that ( apparently you need your blood).

I was a veggie for many years in the 80's and never really ate beef, but only the risk of French CJD is good enough for them, so let them have it.

I will be a mad cow on my own!
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I think they're called offal if you're a cow, mad or otherwise!
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Re: Just tried to give blood, but they don't want it.

They wont take mine as it has a nice blue colour.......
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