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Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

Hi all,

I just bought a used a car, 2010 Golf to be exact, and it comes with a 12mo warranty which is standard in CH.

The cars speedometer (Tacho) Is off by 6-7km/hr, when i do 60 on the guage the car is really doing 53-54km, or when i do 120km on the guage, the car is really going 109-110km. I tested this with a GPS and got another car with a friend to test the speed, when i read 120 on the guage, he is doing 110 etc..

The car garage i bought it from says that this deviation in km is normal, he is giving me all these excuses on how its the tires, its normal, the swiss office inspected the car, and then at the end he tells me to get a autometer guage (buy one).

he does not have a service center, but he is an official garage.

WHat should i do? Should i take the car to a VW garage for service, how does the 12mo garantie work on used cars?

It was really depressing to see this problem after forking out so much
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Old 16.08.2011, 23:46
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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

This is perfectly normal, no problem!
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This not a problem, this is a "feature" of the speedometers of many cars. You think why do a lot of people here drives a few km/h slower than the posted limit?
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This is perfectly normal, no problem!

its normal to have a car with a 10km deviation (higher the speed)...Avg deviation is 6-7km no matter what speed..
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Old 16.08.2011, 23:56
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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

It is usual that indicated speed is a bit higher than actual speed.

Did the car come with a fresh MFK?
..... if so, then that is one of the checks they do (drive through a speed radar and compare), and it must be within accepted limits;
..... if not, then wait until you put it through an MFK, and see what happens.

I wouldn't worry too much - you'll soon accept it as normal, and may even miss receiving a speeding ticket, because of it.

GPS speeds always show up to 10km/h slower than indicated, due the curvature of the Earth, compared with driving on a "flat" road.

Are you in that much of a hurry, that it's going to make a difference, anyway?
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It is usual that indicated speed is a bit higher than actual speed.

Did the car come with a fresh MFK?
..... if so, then that is one of the checks they do (drive through a speed radar and compare), and it must be within accepted limits;
..... if not, then wait until you put it through an MFK, and see what happens.

I wouldn't worry too much - you'll soon accept it as normal, and may even miss receiving a speeding ticket, because of it.

GPS speeds always show up to 10km/h slower than indicated, due the curvature of the Earth, compared with driving on a "flat" road.

Are you in that much of a hurry, that it's going to make a difference, anyway?
I will just live with it, who knows.. your right.. one day it might save my ticket.
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Old 19.08.2011, 14:51
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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

this isn't a problem its designed that way, speedo's are allowed to be upto 10% (iirc) over, but never under, so they cannot say you are going slower then you are, but are allowed to say your going quicker.

many reasons for this inc only have 1 standard speedo regardless of what size wheels and tyres you have, imagine if you changed from 16" alloys to 18" alloys, you'd also need to change or re-calibrate your speedo

so rest assured, your car is exactly how its supposed to be and the dealer isn't telling lies (for once)
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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

A speedometer (as mentioned) can't read under your actual speed - by law in the UK - and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same here.

The MFK sheet will tell you how much it is out - my Passat reads 60kmh and is actually doing 56kmh.

It is no big deal - think of the fuel you'll save.
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this isn't a problem its designed that way, speedo's are allowed to be upto 10% (iirc) over, but never under, so they cannot say you are going slower then you are, but are allowed to say your going quicker.

many reasons for this inc only have 1 standard speedo regardless of what size wheels and tyres you have, imagine if you changed from 16" alloys to 18" alloys, you'd also need to change or re-calibrate your speedo

so rest assured, your car is exactly how its supposed to be and the dealer isn't telling lies (for once)
About "imagine if you changed from 16" alloys to 18" alloys" - you would usually buy "thinner tires" so the rolling radius stays the same & the speedo is not effected.
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It's summer, time to change off those smaller winter rims...
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Old 19.08.2011, 17:11
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About "imagine if you changed from 16" alloys to 18" alloys" - you would usually buy "thinner tires" so the rolling radius stays the same & the speedo is not effected.

ok smart arse, imagine if you go from 16" alloys to nice 24" chromes

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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

Just be thankful that it's a 12 month warranty and not based on your (10% exaggerated) mileage.
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Old 19.08.2011, 17:20
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Re: Used Car - 12mo Warranty/Grantie

The mileage should be exact, only the speed reads high (the manual for one of my bikes states clearly that the speedo reads 8% high, but the odometer is accurate).

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Old 19.08.2011, 17:33
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The mileage should be exact, only the speed reads high (the manual for one of my bikes states clearly that the speedo reads 8% high, but the odometer is accurate).
I've heard that before, so I don't doubt you. But I wonder how the odometer takes tyre pressures, etc. into account if the speedo can't.
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