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Old 22.08.2011, 12:56
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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

Fancy having a young child in the sun yesterday. It'll probably be dead by 12 due to skin cancer.
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Old 22.08.2011, 12:57
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I think OP was not offended by someone merely changing a nappy on the shore of the lake (nowhere else really to change it, right?) but rather she found a) the initial trespass upon her personal space (given the availability of other spaces) to be questionable, combined with b) dirty nappy change next to her picnic site, to be worthy of complaint.

Really two separate issues, which seem to be getting addressed both separately and together within this thread, hence the wide spectrum of replies.
And here is where I am wondering why this even needed to have the explanation above.

Kamarate was pretty clear about the situation and yet, people went from the story to a totally different understanding/interpretation/comments...

Why I am not surprised?
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Old 22.08.2011, 12:58
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I understand they have babies ............. come early next time

Murphy undoubtedly had children.


Any mom worth her stretch marks will get their kid in the shade, even if that means overlapping someone's towel.

But, back to the OP, after the first few hundred diaper changes (about 2 weeks old) you learn how to do it discretely even in a crowded area. Not sure about 20cms... that's 7.874 inches... but regardless, it is easy enough to shift baby to another part of the blanket a bit further away.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:00
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My husband and I came back to my stuff from a swim in the lake to find some woman sprawled out with her feet all over my husband's towel.

The hubby isn't too impressed with things like that (he's got a foot phobia, especially when they were as dirty as this woman's) and he asked her if she wanted to take the towel home and wash it.

I understand people sitting close to you when it's really crowded, but it happens too often that you get towels and parasols being set up almost on top of your own site for no apparent reason. I like to think it's because I am a gorgeous hip chick and people wanna be close to me...

Fortunately we unleash the secret weapon of the 4 year old who will run riot with very little encouragement which often creates our own personal ground zero, especially if he is soaking wet and armed with squirty guns.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:10
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And here is where I am wondering why this even needed to have the explanation above.

Kamarate was pretty clear about the situation and yet, people went from the story to a totally different understanding/interpretation/comments...

Why I am not surprised?
It is hot and lots of us are bored and sitting in an office.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:12
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Fortunately we unleash the secret weapon of the 4 year old who will run riot with very little encouragement which often creates our own personal ground zero, especially if he is soaking wet and armed with squirty guns.
children and dogs are so useful arent they?

I love how my dog shakes off any excessive water randomly on anyone sitting too close to me.

PS kamarate, I'll lend you the little fella if you like. If anyone displays disgust, you can always tell them to sit further away.
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I sincerely hope I never do what that mother did I say "hope" because, this is what's possibly going through my head in that situation:

Okay, hubby and daughter are heading out to go and swim.
Did he remember to put her hat on?
Did he remember to put sunscreen on her and himself?
Where did he put her clothes? I need to keep all of the clothing in one spot in order for it to be easy to find later when we go. Kids will be tired and I'll need to get them dressed ASAP so that we can get in the car ASAP. That always calms them down.
Okay, now for the nappy change. Ooh, I need to lay off the carrots and bananas, baby's stool is looking a bit hard. Keep still baby, it's really hard trying to change your nappy while you're wriggling around. All clean. Let's put a little swimmer nappy on now shall we and let's put some sunscreen on to.
Oh, I had better get the towels out for everyone.
Alrighty, now I'll get the toys out for the kids and put the snacks and water out as they will be getting nibble in about 20min or so.
I had better put some sunscreen on myself.
I need to change into my swim suit too.
I think I'll put a hat on too.

I'm sure I left something out but I'm sure you get the idea.

That said, I always sit as far away as possible from anyone. My personal bubble is huge. If there is no-where to sit alone in the shade, I will ask if it's ok that I pull up next to someone who is in the shade.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:21
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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

The best is when you bring your own umbrella and people come to sit under...
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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

Some friends of mine are fighting with the other residents on the new housing development in which they live because some active participants want to purchase "an umbrella" from the common funds.

How this will work in practice is anyones guess.

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Shocked and Appalled because someone is changing a nappy next to you, which takes about 45 seconds ? Christ, I hope you've never seen anyone getting mugged I imagine you would explode on the spot.
I used to be shocked and appalled (and sometimes rather faint) by my own son's nappies. Nasty.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:29
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You must have been dodging quite a bit if she managed to get the child's pull up / nappy off that close!

I mean, even for a shorty like me, it's 42cm from elbow to fingertips so she MUST have jabbed you in the chin a few times with her elbow if it was "literally" and a mere 20cm! You do say you "did not exaggerate" after all.

Why'd you leave that part out? That would have irritated me far worse than having people sit "too close" or witnessing the disgusting event of a child's diaper being changed. Man, an elbow to the chin WHILE there was a baby's poopy butt in my face, that would have simply taken the cake!
I was so engrossed in what I was doing I didn't notice until I smelled it (I'd just eaten my lunch too!). Kid's bum was right next to my face, mum's elbows were probably jabbing around my ears somewhere, but she didn't get me... think that would have added insult to injury!

Thanks for all the replies (well, the balanced ones, anyway ). This certainly wasn't intended to be a mother/baby-bashing thread as some of you seem to have inferred... more a place to rant about behaviour you've found to be absolutely incredible (in a bad way, obviously). My story just happened to involve a baby and its inconsiderate mother.
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:29
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Old 22.08.2011, 13:31
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Well, the nappy itself isn't the issue - I used to work in a nursing home, so I've seen my fair share of soiled nappies (and the rest ). The difference is that I was getting paid there to have that kind of thing shoved under my nose - I wasn't trying to have a pleasant afternoon out!
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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

Should we hear more of the "shock and awwwwwwwwwww" rather than the "Shock and Awe" ?

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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

The thing is an idiot is an idiot, when the idiot becomes parent, president, rich, bald, hero, etc. He still an idiot.

So yes, it isn't a bashing against kids. It is not the fault of the poor kid if his mother is an idiot.
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Well, the nappy itself isn't the issue - I used to work in a nursing home, so I've seen my fair share of soiled nappies (and the rest ). The difference is that I was getting paid there to have that kind of thing shoved under my nose - I wasn't trying to have a pleasant afternoon out!
Fully agree. Some mums seem to be in a bubble of "I have a child now so I have no feckin' idea of what's socially acceptable anymore." I'm sure I slip into that category now and again but I'd never subject anyone to a nose full of soiled nappy like that.

Sometimes it's a bit of a faff to get a kid to keep still and you sometimes have to change him at the spot where you finally got a decent rugby tackle in but even so, you can still shift them about a bit so the people around you don't get too involved.

I would have definitely said something to her, mucky missus.
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Old 22.08.2011, 14:04
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But these are Germans... They really place their towel in line next to us, WITHOUT any space at all!

Do they not learn about something call personal space???
Yes, they have a word for it "Lebensraum". They have traditionally followed it up with tanks and Ju-87 Stukas when forcefully creating more space for their towels.
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Old 22.08.2011, 14:13
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Yes, they have a word for it "Lebensraum". They have traditionally followed it up with tanks and Ju-87 Stukas when forcefully creating more space for their towels.
Next time may I suggest being a little better prepared when it comes to putting a towel out.

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Fancy having a young child in the sun yesterday. It'll probably be dead by 12 due to skin cancer.
We can start a new thread with this topic..
WTF is wrong with the European parents???? They let their kids run around naked with maybe sunscreen only.. Don't they know what is a rash vest???

From where I am from, parents put hats and long sleeves rash vest for their kids (and themselves sometimes)and avoid sun between 11:30-14:30..

Why do the parents want their kid to die of skin cancer??? They do not like kids here??
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Re: Flabbergasted - completely socially unacceptable behaviour

Unrelated to the OP, I know... but did anyone else think, just for a split second, that the (advert) photo below was meant to illustrate the accompanying headline?

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