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swedishguy 01.09.2011 11:20

Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Im so pissed off at Migros/Coop. Not only do they close BEFORE I get home from work, their meat selection is rediciolous. :mad:

You have your pork chops and various overly priced "BBQ friendly" meat with that weird red marinade (i guess its paprika wich seems to be the flavour of choise here, dont get me started on the crisps).

And youve got your 100 CHF/kilo chicken legs.

And youve got your "fine food" steaks @ 35-45 CHF a piece. :eek:

WTF.

This summer, back in my old country, I bought pre-cooked hickory glazed ribs for 10 chf/kilo. Just throw them on the BBQ for some crispyness. Thats just one example. And that giant food super stores close 10PM 7 days a week.

Im so bored with the food selection here im considering not eating at all.

botzibaby1 01.09.2011 11:23

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
well at least they have some meat...for us vegetarians they have no tofu!

grumpygrapefruit 01.09.2011 11:24

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Go to a butchers or Turkish (or other "ethnic" shop), market, farm..... they've all got good meat often cheaper than a supermarket. Or eat vegetables!

Panther 01.09.2011 11:25

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by botzibaby1 (Post 1323107)
well at least they have some meat...for us vegetarians they have no tofu!


Which Migros or Coop do yuo visit, our Migros (MM) has Tofu, and seasoned Tofu.....not to mention a large range of Quorn products

swedishguy 01.09.2011 11:28

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pather (Post 1323113)
Which Migros or Coop do yuo visit, our Migros (MM) has Tofu, and seasoned Tofu.....not to mention a large range of Quorn products

As a former BF of a vegetarian i too confirm they have tofu + quorn stuff. Im willing to bet that their veggie selection is equally limited though.

swedishguy 01.09.2011 11:30

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
[QUOTE=grumpygrapefruit;1323109]Go to a butchers or Turkish (or other "ethnic" shop), market, farm..... they've all got good meat often cheaper than a supermarket. Or eat vegetables![/QUOTE]

Thanks for a god tip and a utterly crazy one :D (I do love veggies but i prefer a nice steak with them.)

Caviarchips 01.09.2011 11:30

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323094)
Im so pissed off at Migros/Coop. Not only do they close BEFORE I get home from work, their meat selection is rediciolous. :mad:

I agree with GG, go to a good local butcher - you'll get better meat which hasn't been vac-packed to oblivion (the blood gets sucked back in) and stay away from the marinades....knowling whats in those marinades puts me off them, and knowing how they choose the meat to cover in the sticky cr*p doesn't encourage me either

(Oh...and shopping local keeps local trademen in business)

phdoofus 01.09.2011 11:33

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
We've been told we're supposed to just shut up and take it.

http://www.englishforum.ch/complaint...-all-time.html

Mud 01.09.2011 11:40

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323118)
As a former BF of a vegetarian i too confirm they have tofu + quorn stuff. Im willing to bet that their veggie selection is equally limited though.

Tofu is here, but in Civilization one can find a good half dozen different types without even going to ethnic food shops.

It's like saying "no meat choice? that's crazy talk." and then offering up this

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QCOzwaYEaXRP6Q


carnivorous since 1991, but love good freshly made tofu :msncool:

botzibaby1 01.09.2011 11:46

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pather (Post 1323113)
Which Migros or Coop do yuo visit, our Migros (MM) has Tofu, and seasoned Tofu.....not to mention a large range of Quorn products

hmm..jealous! my Coop in Richterswil has none of that..in fact the only place I have ever seen tofu is at an Asian specialty store.

Humblebee 01.09.2011 11:52

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
You are absolutely right! Horrible here. When I get bored I go to Autria or Germany and stock up on things. Especially cold cuts and meat.

swedishguy 01.09.2011 11:54

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phdoofus (Post 1323124)
We've been told we're supposed to just shut up and take it.

http://www.englishforum.ch/complaint...-all-time.html

Not in the complaints corner we aint! :)

grumpygit 01.09.2011 11:56

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323164)
Not in the complaints corner we aint! :)

WELL! never mind about the meat choice, have you not tried looking for brown sugar?

sorry i just couldnt resist :cool:

Zubie_9 01.09.2011 12:00

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Do you have Aligro near you? It's kind of like a super store. Well the closest you'll get. I'm a veg. but when my husband does buy meat, he likes to do it there. Though I wish he'd go to a local butcher b/c I'm sure it's better quality. But price wise, Aligro seems to be the winner.

And for the other vegies out there, here in Lausanne we have a fair ammount of tofu, (the really good kind is at Asian food stores.) and Quorn (Migros) and Quanature (sp? At Coop.) But I sure do miss the variety they have in the states!

adrianlondon 01.09.2011 12:03

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Have to feel sorry for all you people who don't live in Basel.

15 minutes cycling in one direction brings me to Marktkauf in Germany. Good butchers, mainly pork and beef. Around the corner from there is a Turkish shop, also with a butcher counter, mainly lamb.

10-15 minutes cycling in a different direction brings me to Geant Casino in France. Again, a wide range of products. You can get hickory smoked ribs there, ready for the BBQ. Can't remember the price/weight but I paid 4€ for a rack last time.

On Saturdays, France also has a farmer's market. I now get all my lamb from there. The guy spent ages last Saturday cubing me some lamb for a curry - it's 14€/Kg but you only pay for what you get. By that I mean all the fat he trimmed off, and the pieces not big enough to make a nice cube, were discarded. Plus I got some free sausages.

I only buy meat in Switzerland if it's on 50% aktion. Not that I can't afford the prices here (I live on my own so we're not talking huge amounts of meat) but it just seems silly to pay these prices when the quality at the market in France beats the Swiss meat and costs so much less.

manny calavera 01.09.2011 12:48

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Is it really the lack of variety or do you just find it inconvenient to try things you haven't tried before?

As of meet. You get chicken, beef, pork, lamb and seefood in any variation you want in almost every coop or migros. Go shop an hour before they close and most of it will be 50% off.
It's easy to find ingredients to cook Asian, Mediterranean and even American.

Tofu and Quorn is available even in small migros / coop.

Buy seasonal veggies and have different choices every month. When was the last time you cooked a Aubergine? Broccoli? Blumenkohl? Kohlrabi? Knollenselleri? Wirz?

I live on a very small budget (student with no rich daddy's financial support) but a balanced diet is very important to me. I love to cook and I harly ever get bored with what I can get at the mid-size coop at my trainstation.

Do you want to get to gether and cook sometimes? :)

swedishguy 01.09.2011 13:24

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygit (Post 1323171)
WELL! never mind about the meat choice, have you not tried looking for brown sugar?

sorry i just couldnt resist :cool:

Haha actually i have! Im also upset with the poor ready-made food selection. Im used to buying chicken wings, ribs, awsome salads with actual MEAT in them, etc. Here you pay 6 CHF for a tiny "greek" salad with some cucumber bits and 3-4 feta cheese bits. :msnmad:

swedishguy 01.09.2011 13:35

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Is it really the lack of variety or do you just find it inconvenient to try things you haven't tried before?

Its the lack of veriety.

As of meet. You get chicken, beef, pork, lamb and seefood in any variation you want in almost every coop or migros. Go shop an hour before they close and most of it will be 50% off.

I dont know about "most of it". Also, they close 6.30. I get home 6.45. No, they totally have less options and its totally over-priced, even for CH. I guess its because they refuse to import argentinian meat, etc.

It's easy to find ingredients to cook Asian, Mediterranean and even American.

Semi-agreed. The asian section is 3 times bigger in yer average scandinavian (large) food store.

Tofu and Quorn is available even in small migros / coop.

That makes me happy for all you vegetarians out there, but personally i find tofu tasteless and Quorn products plain weird. :)

Buy seasonal veggies and have different choices every month. When was the last time you cooked a Aubergine? Broccoli? Blumenkohl? Kohlrabi? Knollenselleri? Wirz?

Wirz? I dont want a veggie stew or grilled Aubergine. I want lamb-racks that doesnt force me to sell my car in order to buy a decent amount of them.

I live on a very small budget (student with no rich daddy's financial support) but a balanced diet is very important to me. I love to cook and I harly ever get bored with what I can get at the mid-size coop at my trainstation.

Wait until you have a job and want to throw a big-ass BBQ for your friends.

Do you want to get to gether and cook sometimes? :)

Are you asking me out on a date? :)

Helm 01.09.2011 13:36

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manny calavera (Post 1323270)
As of meet. You get chicken, beef, pork, lamb and seefood in any variation you want in almost every coop or migros.

I have to disagree there. Coming from a city that has market places filled with still-moving-too-many-to-count fish might not be helping... But I am very very disappointed with the fish available in Coop or Migros. In medium sized stores you get salmon, pangasius filet and... well, some bass. On big ones, you get some salted codfish in the Portuguese cantons, and some... well... variations of bass... The rest of the so called seafood is frozen... Not a big fan of frozen, but there is still not that much variety.

I miss the good old stinky fish markets :msncry:

I find the local Migros very well stocked on vegetables, though! (Coop not so strong on that department)

nickatbasel 01.09.2011 13:41

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Cheese surely!

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 1323109)
Or eat vegetables!


PaddyG 01.09.2011 13:44

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
It might be worth checking out a Halal butcher if you ca. My wife picked up some cheap, delicious lamb cutlets.

Mmmmm, lamb chops....:p

Tom1234 01.09.2011 13:45

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
There's rabbit and horse and venison as well in our local Co-op.

Have you tried those yet or is what you are really saying is that it's not exactly the same as home?:rolleyes:

Ella 211 01.09.2011 13:50

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 1323366)
There's rabbit and horse and venison as well in our local Co-op.

My local Coop had those too, plus ostrich and duck. I wish I had that choice here in the uk too. I get beef, pork, lamb and chicken. That's it.

Helm 01.09.2011 13:51

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ella 211 (Post 1323378)
My local Coop had those too, plus ostrich and duck.

Is it a small Coop? The one back home really has no other choice than those mentioned by the OP. The Migros has some rabbit every 2 weeks or so, but that's it!

dodgyken 01.09.2011 13:55

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Hmmmmmm - Ostrich :cool::cool:

Lovely meat.

If you're interested we saw a speciality butcher in Glarus offering Zebra :)

Peg A 01.09.2011 13:57

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
I realize that working people don't have much opportunity / time compared to opening hours for their work and that this has some impact upon how far they're willing to travel but... near me there are THREE Coop locations within "easy" walking distance as well as two Migros, two Denner, a Portuguese butcher and a variety of ethnically owned "lebensmittel" shops.

While at least one of the Coop and one of the Migros shops both close early (630pm or earlier), another Coop location is open until 8pm.

In addition to these shops within walking distance, a short bus or tram ride puts me in easy reach of two Aldi locations that each also are open until 8pm, the Migros at the train station, open until 7pm and the big MParc that is open until 8pm.

That is all without crossing any borders btw. so I find it hard to believe that it would be so different in Luzern.

The variety of meats here is fairly seasonal - you should be seeing some wild meats coming available at the butcher counters within the next couple of weeks.



Meanwhile, with all that said... I do feel you, really. What is on offer here is different than what many of us are used to elsewhere. The trick is to arrange your time so that you can go to a variety of places, maybe not all on the same day... and this takes some work in getting familiar with your nearest 6 - 10 blocks. Next time you're off, just go walking around your "neighborhood" and see what's there. Chances are, there is more variety than you realize.

möpp 01.09.2011 13:59

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
http://www.leshop.ch/leshop/Main.do?...7_Butcher_Meat

My friend - methinks that online shopping is the way to go for you - have it delivered on a Saturday or in the evening. It may not be totally ideal, but it's probably a larger choice than you'll find in some piddly little local Migros

herc82 01.09.2011 14:02

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
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Originally Posted by möpp (Post 1323401)
My friend - methinks that online shopping is the way to go for you

Alternative with COOP (they carry more brands apparently) - Coop@Home

KeinFranzösisch 01.09.2011 14:07

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323118)
As a former BF of a vegetarian

I'm sorry. I dated a vegan. I know it can be rough, but you really have to draw the line at being proposed to over a Tofurky dinner.

But yes check out the larger stores. And look for the 3 M Migroses if that's your chain of preference. (I always marvel whenever I tell someone about the number of Ms on the outside of a Migros, and the person doesn't already know this...). I myself have sworn off Migros as the scourge of the earth for lack of variety and will only shop at Coop.

manny calavera 01.09.2011 14:10

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323094)
And youve got your "fine food" steaks @ 35-45 CHF a piece. :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
Its the lack of veriety.

Obviously there is variety, you just don't want to pay for it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
I dont know about "most of it". Also, they close 6.30. I get home 6.45. No, they totally have less options and its totally over-priced, even for CH. I guess its because they refuse to import argentinian meat, etc.

Obviously, you go shopping at SOME point...? Try saturday? Then there is even more half-off stuff. I usually buy a load and throw it in the freezer.
And yeah. Importing meat from half around the world, that makes sense.
I refuse to buy lamb from Australia because it's f*ing ridiculous. I'm not a hippie or anything, but is a little social responsability too much to ask for?
If you buy more swiss meat it will become cheaper eventually. The invisible hand is not only for jerking off bankers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
Semi-agreed. The asian section is 3 times bigger in yer average scandinavian (large) food store.

When will you guys get it? It's not the size. It's how you use it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
That makes me happy for all you vegetarians out there, but personally i find tofu tasteless and Quorn products plain weird. :)

No argument there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
Wirz? I dont want a veggie stew or grilled Aubergine. I want lamb-racks that doesnt force me to sell my car in order to buy a decent amount of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323121)
:D (I do love veggies but i prefer a nice steak with them.)

You stated you liked veggies. So what's wrong with trying what's available? Aubergines (eggplants) from my Weber is one of the best things ever (soak them in olive oil and they will be just as bad for you as bbq rips).
I once bought half a lamb from a local farmer for a very reasonal price. Be a little more resourceful?

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
Wait until you have a job and want to throw a big-ass BBQ for your friends.

I do have several jobs and throw BBQs with my friends all the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323338)
Are you asking me out on a date? :)

On second thought, don't thinks so. Not into the whiney type :p

Guest 01.09.2011 14:12

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Support your local butcher's - like the baker's they all have their own specialities and if you buy carefully (special offers, etc) often cheaper than supermarkets. And sometimes, less is more ... we eat less meat since we've moved here, but excellent quality.
In our village there is an excellent Portuguese fish mongers Helm.

Ella 211 01.09.2011 14:14

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helm (Post 1323384)
Is it a small Coop? The one back home really has no other choice than those mentioned by the OP. The Migros has some rabbit every 2 weeks or so, but that's it!

Not sure where your "back home" is. I shopped in Volkiland, Volketswil or in the Migros in Uster. In the smaller shops, it might be worth talking to the butcher to see if he/she can order something for you. Or check online for some other choices.

I have only seen Venison once here in my local Morrisons (uk). It was minced and formed as burgers or meatballs. It was yuk.

Helm 01.09.2011 14:18

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Quote:

In our village there is an excellent Portuguese fish mongers Helm.
In the ass of the world I live I have to be lucky the fish is not older than a week old :( If you want to do a fancy Portuguese dinner for your friends, you have to go for frozen fish, which really doesn't taste the same, even with all the tricks of grandmother :msncry: Usually end up on the meat, but have to travel to Hinwill for it (no butchery in the small village I live in).

But local bakery gets cleared up of mohnbrötchen (or opium bread as I used to call it) every weekend :D Bread from bakery is the best :D

Let's just say I can't wait to move to my new home next year :) There is a bunch of old styled little shops that I will love invading ;)

Phil_MCR 01.09.2011 14:22

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeinFranzösisch (Post 1323418)
I'm sorry. I dated a vegan.

so you should be! :msntongue:

kevlegs 01.09.2011 14:23

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
I nearly had a panic attack when I ventured back into a US food store the other day. It was overwhelming.:msntongue:

prof. taratonga 01.09.2011 14:44

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Summary:

Whine, Switzerland is not Sweden!

(also a hint for our US friends)

swedishguy 01.09.2011 15:03

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manny calavera (Post 1323423)
Manny Calvera: WALL OF TEXT

Wow, i guess i just got pwned. All my base belongs to you.

And in regards to me being whiny, youre in the complains corner, here is where we come to whine. :cool:

Now go back to your drum circle. :p

manny calavera 01.09.2011 15:06

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swedishguy (Post 1323531)
Now go back to your drum circle. :p

Ok... :hippy:

Peg A 01.09.2011 15:08

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prof. taratonga (Post 1323491)
Summary:

Whine, Switzerland is not Sweden!

(also a hint for our US friends)


Hey man, I realize that Switzerland isn't the US BUT when something is labeled "American BBQ" I expect it to taste like something from home, not like salt and more salt with a hint of some paprika! :msnmad:

The little jar of "Mexican BBQ" that is together with all the other sauces for fondue chinoise tastes EXACTLY like "Manwich" which is a sloppy-joe making sauce. We will have to query Coconails and Ouchboy how "Mexican" that stuff actually is but the "American" stuff very often is very far from it so I have reason to doubt. :msnshock:



I think the largest part of the problem for many expats who come here to work for multi-national / international corporations is that they have to work the same sort of crazy hours as they do in the US, Aus and UK while trying to LIVE on Swiss time and it simply doesn't work. One or the other should give - personally, I'm in favor of ensuring an improved match-up of working hours to local life hours.

prof. taratonga 01.09.2011 15:16

Re: Would it kill Migros/Coop to show some variety in terms of MEAT?
 
Swiss consumer will import meat for around 1 Billion Swiss Francs on private basis in 2011. In general people eat less meat than 10 years ago because of the high prices. Either the shops cope with reality or they go bankrupt.

Most of the meat I use comes from a "biohof", good meat at reasonable prices (for Switzerland). Sometimes the cheaper parts (liver, ragout) are even tastier then all the steaks and stuff.


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