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Old 14.09.2011, 11:14
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you lost me, Sagitta said that people who insist on proving their points are believed to be 'not wise' so you are just agreeing with her then?
Dumb guy- I believe in flying baby Jesus who takes off by the power of his own fart.
Real wise guy- Any proof of this fart powered flying baby Jesus?
Dumb guy- I am not going to prove anything. Men who need to prove their point aren't wise. I got faith!

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Re: Religion, commerce and the ire of the illiberal idiot.

So, if I've got this straight, Jacob Levi shouldn't ask where to find kosher biscuits in Zurich because there are church schools in Glasgow and the Tao te Ching is a good book.

Is that right?
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So, if I've got this straight, Jacob Levi shouldn't ask where to find kosher biscuits in Zurich because there are church schools in Glasgow and the Tao te Ching is a good book.

Is that right?
Don't be daft. People looking for kosher biscuits are usually goys wanting curiosities or gifts. Jacob Levi's got the connections to find his the biscuits on his own, thank you very much.
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Old 14.09.2011, 11:27
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So, if I've got this straight, Jacob Levi shouldn't ask where to find kosher biscuits in Zurich because there are church schools in Glasgow and the Tao te Ching is a good book.

Is that right?


..this is how much sense this thread makes to Me...
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Don't be daft. People looking for kosher biscuits are usually goys wanting curiosities or gifts. Jacob Levi's got the connections to find his the biscuits on his own, thank you very much.
True, that.

They own all the banks and newspapers, you know...
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..this is how much sense this thread makes to Me...
We have named lot of items in our house after animals. For example scissors = shark, ladder = Giraffe, bathtub = whale. Visitors get confused when I say pass me the shark
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Old 14.09.2011, 15:47
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Heaven and hell is a major tenent of Christianity, though. As are plenty of other rules in the Holy Book that followers these days choose to ignore. Then I'm told that they only believe in the Zombie Jesus/died for your sins/love thy neighbour part, and stuff like heaven and hell is metaphor which could mean many things. Well, if that part could mean anything, all of it could mean anything, so why bother with it at all. It's the equivalent of liking a few of Confiscius's quotes and calling yourself his disclipe as a result. Or being a Fascist because Mussollini's idea of making trains run on time was a swell one.

I don't mean to have the pretention to tell Christians what they should be, but it seems to me most of them don't know themselves and just stick around for the community aspect. Which I admit is pretty convenient, you can move to a new place and go to the local church and be welcomed with open arms as a fellow "Christian". Oh, you agree with only half of what the preacher says and find some of it outdated and morally reprehensible? Shut up, brain, we're new in town and have to make friends. After all, I'm still a Christian! I think...
(I thought of making a new thread but couldn't be bothered...)

You've obviously read extensively about the theological/political/socio-cultural aspects of every reference to heaven and/or hell in the New Testament. And the many different names actually used for those concepts, and what they mean (for instance heaven as a substitute for the word God), as well as the many references that may have been talking about something else entirely, as well as apocalyptic literature as a genre in that period of Jewish history. You must have really cared about the subject, to invest that much time in its study.

On topic now: could it be that one of the reasons a given (non-)religion ticks any of us off is related to the feeling that we know what said (non-)religion teaches and therefore what sort of idiots the people who follow it (possibly incorrectly) clearly are, without necessarily having studied it in any depth ourselves?
I hate the followers of the flying spaghetti monster, personally. Worshipping meatballs is sick, and trying to ram wheat-based produce down people's throats is just wrong. (Unless you're the mother of a small child, obviously. And even then, you should really let the kid chew first.)
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Old 14.09.2011, 15:56
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...On topic now: could it be that one of the reasons a given (non-)religion ticks any of us off is related to the feeling that we know what said (non-)religion teaches and therefore what sort of idiots the people who follow it (possibly incorrectly) clearly are, without necessarily having studied it in any depth ourselves? ...
You mean like: all those athiest people think that there's no such thing as morality, so they can behave exactly as they like and society should accomodate them. And they eat kittens.
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(I thought of making a new thread but couldn't be bothered...)

You've obviously read extensively about the theological/political/socio-cultural aspects of every reference to heaven and/or hell in the New Testament. And the many different names actually used for those concepts, and what they mean (for instance heaven as a substitute for the word God), as well as the many references that may have been talking about something else entirely, as well as apocalyptic literature as a genre in that period of Jewish history.
What percentage of "Christians" or even clergy are aware of and try to teach each other all these things, would you say?
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You mean like: all those athiest people think that there's no such thing as morality, so they can behave exactly as they like and society should accomodate them. And they eat kittens.
You, sir, obviously aren't versed in the socio-political and dietary history of atheism's cat-eating credo, an old rule which is completely up for interpretation.
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Cat (and dog) eating is still quite common in parts of CH and certainly Italy - usually by Christians of one kind or other- but it would be daft to say that 'Christians eat cats'.
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Is cat meat kosher? If so, where can I find some?
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Old 14.09.2011, 16:33
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Apparently not.

Though it's paws are definitely cloven. Perhaps furballs don't count as cud.
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Try your back yard, or the neighbors'.

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What percentage of "Christians" or even clergy are aware of and try to teach each other all these things, would you say?
I'm reading some stuff written by a Jesuit at the moment. He seems to be aware of many of these things. Must have been university wot dunnit.
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I'm reading some stuff written by a Jesuit at the moment. He seems to be aware of many of these things. Must have been university wot dunnit.
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We had Cat Curry for dinner last night. It was very nice.
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We had Cat Curry for dinner last night. It was very nice.
Was it a Moghlai or perhaps a Pussanda?
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