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Old 13.09.2011, 15:03
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Oh Hell yes! Worst are those buggers who cant stand motorbikes and will activly swerve to block your way.
Last time I was treacling my way through that wretched roadworks in Luzern and some bugger saw me coming and just turned his wheel, daring me to pass.
Good job that the traffic moved another few meters.
My dad used to do this but he had the bitter experience of "once bitten twice shy". Some bint on a moped squeezed through a gap in a traffic queue in Manchester, wobbled and gauged a new go-faster stripe into the passenger door and wing of my dad's 3 month old Audi.

For him, the door closed to all two-wheeled lane-squeezers for ever after that.
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Old 13.09.2011, 15:06
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

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My dad used to do this but he had the bitter experience of "once bitten twice shy". Some bint on a moped squeezed through a gap in a traffic queue in Manchester, wobbled and gauged a new go-faster stripe into the passenger door and wing of my dad's 3 month old Audi.

For him, the door closed to all two-wheeled lane-squeezers for ever after that.
Scratch them before they scratch you, eh?
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Old 13.09.2011, 15:15
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The only thing worse than tailgaters are people who deliberately brAke when they have one behind them, absolute tossers, almost as bad as people who deliberately block the middle lane so I can't pass with my motorbike.

edit: spheling.
honestly, I don't mind cars blocking lane 2 at all. I like lane 1 very much - be it car or bike, I will stay in there and if I happen to be going faster than the person in lane 2, I might not notice.

Again, do this on the A3 on an evening in rush hour on your motorbike and when you have to pull into lane 2, some myopic dickwad will try to close the door for you and almost crash into the car he's tailgating. Which is funny as there's always an exit route when you're on the bike if you plan it right
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Old 13.09.2011, 15:26
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Oh Hell yes! Worst are those buggers who cant stand motorbikes and will activly swerve to block your way.
Last time I was treacling my way through that wretched roadworks in Luzern and some bugger saw me coming and just turned his wheel, daring me to pass.
Good job that the traffic moved another few meters.
There are these people but it has to be said that the vast majority are surprisingly tolerant towards motorbikes. I experience it much, much more often that people stuck in traffic move to the side when they see me coming in their rear mirror. Lots of bike-friendly folks around, regardless which motorbike I drive, so I am quite happy with drivers around Zürich. But you really can't get distracted while driving because a short lapse of attention and one idiot is enough for a fatal accident.
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Old 13.09.2011, 16:08
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It's a similar mindset to the "I must be the first one on the tram" syndrome. People here can't stand being overtaken whatever the situation.

We've seen a similar situation on the motorways here where we've overtaken someone limping along then the next thing they are hanging onto the back of the car. I usually pull back into the inside lane and let them through. 500 metres down the road you have to overtake them again and I've not even touched the cruise control. They must go through a lot of petrol driving like that.
Good to know I am not the only one; sometimes I have to doublecheck the cruise control to ensure it has not magically self adjusted.
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Old 13.09.2011, 16:41
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

It's quite simple really......anyone going faster than you is a maniac, anyone going slower than you is moron. It's why we only ever have to deal with morons and not maniacs.
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I hate tailgaters with a passion.
One of my colleague back in US told me that she uses her car's windshield washer fluid to get rid of tailgaters. When she sprays water on her windshield, the car behind get some too and leaves her alone.
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Old 13.09.2011, 18:25
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

...yeah, good one, close enough to get the spray, you are too close.

Just very effing annoying when you are a sitting prisoner at a stop light...
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Old 14.09.2011, 07:17
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I recently had an old guy (seemed to be in retirement life-phase) in an X5 chase me down the road (with fist-waving, tailgating and weaving side to side behind me) towards Birmenstorf because, after exiting the motorway, I stopped at the traffic lights as I had seen enough of the yellow light to be sure that it would switch red. Which, rather unsuprisingly, it did. Obviously he wanted to fly through on red and, in his world, the prerequisite seemed to have been that I should have obviously done the same thing.

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Hmm, could this be the same guy that was flashing me and waving fists because I was doing 60 in an 80 zone just after Birmenstorf?! I mean, I drive a golf, it just doesn't accelerate as fast as his X5

On the other hand, a couple of days ago I had an anti-road-rage experience. I stopped (come to think of it...in Birmenstorf!) to let a bus pull out of the station and behold, his rear dot display changed to "Danke!" for about 5 seconds...wow!
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On the other hand, a couple of days ago I had an anti-road-rage experience. I stopped (come to think of it...in Birmenstorf!) to let a bus pull out of the station and behold, his rear dot display changed to "Danke!" for about 5 seconds...wow!
Yep, that has also happened to me a few times in Birmenstorf - the first time, it took my girlfriend a while to realise what on earth I was talking about (or thought I'd suddenly gone mad) "Look, look, the bus is saying thank you!" :-)

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Old 14.09.2011, 08:20
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

Countless times I have been on country roads, some guy is in such a hurry that he has to perform some unsafe looking overtaking maneouvre... naturally he likes to hear the scream of his engine while doing this.

Ten minutes later we pull up at some traffic lights and there he is 50m in front of me... or pulling up at the next service station for a coffee, there he is smoking a cigarette or whatever.

Nothing against the OP, seems like a good chap to me... but does have an avatar of a speedy BMW racing around the Nurburgring, right?

Of course, some people exact a lot of joy from driving and their driving style... I have nothing against this (unless it is genuinely unsafe behaviour) and I suppose I am the same with snowboarding.

But with driving I prefer the old adage, "if always in such a hurry, why not leave a few minutes earlier." Yet do they ever?
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Old 14.09.2011, 08:33
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Right place, wrong car, i have never owned or driven a bmw

Unless you count the mini as a bmw
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Right place, wrong car, i have never owned or driven a bmw

Unless you count the mini as a bmw
Your MG does look a bit like a BMW E46 on the picture though
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Old 14.09.2011, 08:52
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

I see where your coming from krlock3, but if mr 107 hadn't have been 6 inches from the lorries bumper and had just the slightest observation, he could have seen that the road was totally clear, all you need to do is take a quick look out of your side window and you can see the road for quite a way.

The mini has 6 gears, so downing 2 is only into 4th and making sure the turbo is spinning, it not like a thumping great V8 made his ears bleed (its only a 4 pot 1.6 lol)

Overtaking a lorry going 50kph isn't exactly difficult, and doesn't take much time, even if you are in a 107!

And also doesn't give him free reign to speed through a village to catch me up.

unfortunately I didn't see him again this morning
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