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Old 13.09.2011, 10:53
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Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

So driving to the train station this morning I got stuck behind a poxy peugoet 107 that was stuck behind a lorry going down the mountain road, of course mr 107 was driving 6 inches from the lorries bumper so couldn't see a thing and didn't have the power to overtake even if he could, 50kph in an 80 zone, nice.

So we come to one of those overhangs that stop rockfalls, not quite a tunnel as they are open on one side, I know the road well, can see the overhang it totally empty (its dark, steep gradient and quite long and I'm not sitting 6 inches from the 107's bumper) see my chance, down a couple of gears and overtake them both in the blink of an eye (I love petrol turbo's )

think nothing more of it, get to the station and park up

Mr 107 parks next to me, odd I think, driver gets out and starts ranting at me in german, I ask if he speaks english and he rants some more, says something about a corner and death and driving, then gets back in his car before I can say anything else lol

Look buddy, if you didn't sit 6 inches from the lorry in front you'd see the road was totally clear (in fact I never passed a single car coming up the mountain today) just because you drive a slow piece of s**t that can't overtake a snail doesn't mean everyone else has to sit behind you, I look forward to overtaking you again tomorrow morning.
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Old 13.09.2011, 11:07
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

If your overtaking was legal, you just injured his ego and enhanced his 107 impotence. I would have either smiled benignly or given him a look that would freeze the balls off a brass monkey and continued on my way without a word.

You probably scared him too, but you have an equal right to the rules of the road and there is no answer satisfactory to the guy's impotent rage.
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Old 13.09.2011, 11:49
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

At least the truck prevented him from speeding up as you zoomed around. I was passing a guy on the A3 over the weekend, going the limit I might add, the dude swerved into me then sped up. I made it past him whereupon he made some gestures towards my husband and I was left wondering wtf he was on about since it seemed like a pretty routine pass at the time until he tried to run me off the road.

I'm pretty used to aggressive and absurd drivers as Boston/Massholeville breeds the worst drivers in the US, but drivers around here really surprise me every time I take the car out for driving dangerously and, for lack of a better word, rather stupidly. You'd think the much touted 'quality of life' around here would lead folks to drive in a more relaxed manner instead of like teenagers who just drank a 6-pack of red bulls. So...your experience doesn't seem all that unusual to me. He'd get an eye roll and a whatever from me.
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Old 13.09.2011, 11:54
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

Ah, he just cares about you and his cargo of brown sugar, anxiously being awaited by many frustrated expats.
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Old 13.09.2011, 11:58
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

You call that road rage? It's hardly Duel, is it?

You've been in Switzerland too long




You should have punched him. Now that would have been road rage.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:01
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At least the truck prevented him from speeding up as you zoomed around. I was passing a guy on the A3 over the weekend, going the limit I might add, the dude swerved into me then sped up. I made it past him whereupon he made some gestures towards my husband and I was left wondering wtf he was on about since it seemed like a pretty routine pass at the time until he tried to run me off the road.
It's a similar mindset to the "I must be the first one on the tram" syndrome. People here can't stand being overtaken whatever the situation.

We've seen a similar situation on the motorways here where we've overtaken someone limping along then the next thing they are hanging onto the back of the car. I usually pull back into the inside lane and let them through. 500 metres down the road you have to overtake them again and I've not even touched the cruise control. They must go through a lot of petrol driving like that.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:05
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We've seen a similar situation on the motorways here where we've overtaken someone limping along then the next thing they are hanging onto the back of the car. I usually pull back into the inside lane and let them through. 500 metres down the road you have to overtake them again and I've not even touched the cruise control. They must go through a lot of petrol driving like that.
Aye. There's a few of them.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:05
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

I used to drive a poxy Peugeot 107 and got sick to death of drivers in powerful cars overtaking me in a dangerous way. Just because my car was small and poxy......and I always drove at the correct speed as far as I know......
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

I think you should give the guy some credit.
For a man, driving a 107 is like making a walk with a Chihuahua in public.
He should have been given an opportunity to overtake first so that he could save his manhood.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:10
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You call that road rage? It's hardly Duel, is it?

You've been in Switzerland too long




You should have punched him. Now that would have been road rage.

I must have a look about me, He must have expected me to be 18 or something, or he realised what a prick he was being and calmed down mid rant.

The few times I had issues with roadragers in the uk it was the same, must be the cars I drive, they come on all 'hard' then shrink when I get out of the car.

funniest one was in a petrol station, the guy in front pulls upto the first pump blocking the one in front, so I gave a short blast on the horn in case he didn't realise there was a queue behind him, mr bmw starts giving me plenty of hand signals and storms out of his car, I slowly get out of the car and he stopped, applogised and moved his car forward LOL guess he thought everyone who drives a nissan primera is an old boy (it was a company car)

just hope he doesn't decide to key the car or something.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:13
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

I don't know why, but it seems that an automobile serves as an amplifier for the characteristics of who is behind the wheel, and it doesn't seem to be any different anywhere in the world, other than, perhaps, how instabilities within the drivers get expressed.

It is easy to identify with BB2's story above. I would have zapped the situation exactly as he did, and as a safety justification, to put the dangers propagated by a tailgater behind me, and yeah, I hate tailgaters with a passion. Doesn't matter if they are in front of me, behind or beside, yet when you leave an appropriate space to the guy in front or in back, there is usually some jerk who tries to fill it.

Ok, I have my strategy for dealing with other drivers that some might not agree with, but it has worked very well for me. Basically, I drive decisively with clear intentions that any sleepy idiot can perceive, and they usually do.
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Old 13.09.2011, 12:15
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I must have a look about me, He must have expected me to be 18 or something, or he realised what a prick he was being and calmed down mid rant.

The few times I had issues with roadragers in the uk it was the same, must be the cars I drive, they come on all 'hard' then shrink when I get out of the car.

funniest one was in a petrol station, the guy in front pulls upto the first pump blocking the one in front, so I gave a short blast on the horn in case he didn't realise there was a queue behind him, mr bmw starts giving me plenty of hand signals and storms out of his car, I slowly get out of the car and he stopped, applogised and moved his car forward LOL guess he thought everyone who drives a nissan primera is an old boy (it was a company car)

just hope he doesn't decide to key the car or something.
Learn in German " I passed your car to check if the tyres were ok as you could not seriously have been driving like that with the car working properly"
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I think you should give the guy some credit.
For a man, driving a 107 is like making a walk with a Chihuahua in public.
He should have been given an opportunity to overtake first so that he could save his manhood.

I walk a chihuahua in public I make sure I always have a sigaret and a beer in the other hand....just in case

I miss my s4 audi that would shoot by anyone even before they could put their blinker on. Best parts are on the Autobahn (D) where they think they can fly up behing you while you are waiting for a bus to pass...flash their lights to move...I just hit the gas and left them behind, ah the good feeling. Now with the Bmw it just leavesd them in a nice cloud of smoke
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Re: Road Rage, just had my first swiss experience of it :)

The only thing worse than tailgaters are people who deliberately brAke when they have one behind them, absolute tossers, almost as bad as people who deliberately block the middle lane so I can't pass with my motorbike.

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The only thing worse than tailgaters are people who deliberately break when they have one behind them, absolute tossers, almost as bad as people who deliberately block the middle lane so I can't pass with my motorbike.
Break? Break what?

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Break? Break what?


break there brake pedal, so they can't brake anymore
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Break? Break what?
Wind is my guess.
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The only thing worse than tailgaters are people who deliberately break when they have one behind them, absolute tossers, almost as bad as people who deliberately block the middle lane so I can't pass with my motorbike.
out of interest, if i have a tail-gater and brake hard so that he crashes into me. is it automatically his fault (insurance-wise)?
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out of interest, if i have a tail-gater and brake hard so that he crashes into me. is it automatically his fault (insurance-wise)?

unless someone can testify that you where driving dangerously, then yes

of course you may not be alive to collect the insurance money, or may be living with the guilt of killing someone else.
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Just remember... THIS is road rage:

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