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Re: No place for me in Switzerland

Seriously, what is with you and the English-speaking immigrants????? I'm not even from an English-speaking country and I still feel offended.
I know I should read through the comments before posting, but at this point I just can't. So, here's what I think:

"...contrary to many lazy immigrants from English-speaking countries, I have enough respect for Switzerland to know its full name" -- just out of curiosity, how do the lazy English-speaking immigrants usually call Switzerland?

"I made my homework before deciding to try to move there, contrary to many English-speaking immigrants in "perpetual holiday", who come here with no clue about how the system works...and start to complain because of this - I know that it's not a paradise, and many things might piss me off at the beginning" --- umm, ok, you did your homework YET so many things piss you off... what exactly is the difference between you and the rest of the English-speaking immigrants then, who in turn are or are not pissed off by the way certain things work around here? They come to EF looking for advice, information, help... so what if they also complain? People do that all over the world for countless different reasons. Do you really think the Swiss never complain?? Don't people in your country ever complain?

"I'm willing to integrate in Swiss life" -- and what makes you think us English-speaking immigrants are not? And, what makes you so sure you could fit in? Just wanting something isn't enough.

"The truth is that if I'd be a snob immigrant from one of those English-speaking countries bla bla bla blaaaa wow, you are having a hard day aren't you? I can understand your frustration as finding a job in a foreign country is not easy at all for some of us, but please stop picking on the English-speaking community, they really have little to do with your own situation. Have you thought about asking for some advice? People on this forum are actually very nice and helpful!!
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Old 18.09.2011, 18:17
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just out of curiosity, how do the lazy English-speaking immigrants usually call Switzerland?
SWISS! There are some people on this forum that use the word "SWISS" to refer to Switzerland! I live in Swiss, I'll be soon moving to Swiss...how would you feel if I'd say something like "I'll soon move to America", to refer to Canada? Or even better..."I'll soon move to Kanada". And by the way...there are some nice people on this forum...but the majority aren't, they like to kick newbies, especially when they are already down... Just look at some of the answer that new users get normally, for example the civil Engineer that wants to move from Spain to give a better life to his kids, asks for info...and he gets the reply "Stay where you are, fix your economy, and stop being a burden to the rest of Europe". Very nice, isn't it? By the way...I'm from Corsica, but lived only the first 2 years of my life there, and my father is from Italy. That's why the "Corsica-Italy" connection.
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Typical "English-speaking immigrant" attitude: "I'm better than you, I'm so good, you have failed, you are not worth a penny, kill yourself, etc...". If you are so good, and your countries are so much filled of people like you...why are the US, the UK and Ireland failed countries (economically and socially), and you had to escape from them?
Maybe someone already asked you this, don't know, didn't manage to finish reading the whole thread yet, but why are you trying to escape from your own country?? Forget about Switzerland, or any other foreign country and stay where you are. Problem solved
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Old 18.09.2011, 18:20
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If you don't like it here, you know what you can do, don't you?
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Old 18.09.2011, 18:27
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SWISS! There are some people on this forum that use the word "SWISS" to refer to Switzerland! I live in Swiss, I'll be soon moving to Swiss...how would you feel if I'd say something like "I'll soon move to America", to refer to Canada? Or even better..."I'll soon move to Kanada". And by the way...there are some nice people on this forum...but the majority aren't, they like to kick newbies, especially when they are already down... Just look at some of the answer that new users get normally, for example the civil Engineer that wants to move from Spain to give a better life to his kids, asks for info...and he gets the reply "Stay where you are, fix your economy, and stop being a burden to the rest of Europe". Very nice, isn't it? By the way...I'm from Corsica, but lived only the first 2 years of my life there, and my father is from Italy. That's why the "Corsica-Italy" connection.
Listen.....if you are serious about what to do, I'll give you some serious advice. If you just want an argument, I won't bother.

You want some serious advice? No punchline, no joke, no set up....
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Exactly...and why are "newbies" here always treated with so little respect? This forum is toxic and full of negative feelings... Find something else to do to express your repressed negative feelings...you might find yourself in the same position of the "newbies" in the future.
Can't speak for others, but I have never been treated badly here. Maybe it just depends on the newbie, don't you think so? I'm sure nobody ever picked on a newcomer just for the fun of it.
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SWISS! There are some people on this forum that use the word "SWISS" to refer to Switzerland! I live in Swiss, I'll be soon moving to Swiss...how would you feel if I'd say something like "I'll soon move to America", to refer to Canada? Or even better..."I'll soon move to Kanada". And by the way...there are some nice people on this forum...but the majority aren't, they like to kick newbies, especially when they are already down... Just look at some of the answer that new users get normally, for example the civil Engineer that wants to move from Spain to give a better life to his kids, asks for info...and he gets the reply "Stay where you are, fix your economy, and stop being a burden to the rest of Europe". Very nice, isn't it? By the way...I'm from Corsica, but lived only the first 2 years of my life there, and my father is from Italy. That's why the "Corsica-Italy" connection.
Technically, if you are moving to Canada, or Kanada if you prefer, you can say you're moving to America, it is after all part of North America.
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Old 18.09.2011, 18:44
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for those unable to read through the 1/2 page for diatribe, i summarised it below for you:

- his german isn't good enough to get a job
- he doesn't like the fact that english-speaking immigrants complain about things in Swiss and can get a job
When I got a job at a company in ZH, I only spoke English and French. When I finally started to speak some German, I took a job in Ticino (knowing almost no Italian).

What's the problem?

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What's the problem?
A very cross little boy is stamping his very cross little feet.

We should all take him very, very seriously.
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We should all take him very, very seriously.
Toys and prams come to mind.
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Old 18.09.2011, 18:56
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Did he finally update his profile? All the Corsicans I've ever met in my life were quite combative. Not that I didn't like them. But they did like their "heated debates". Maybe it's the culture. I don't know. Never been.

Agreed, but I have been there, love the place! Great beaches, great landscape, great food and wine.

But, it makes CH look inexpensive to live in!

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Re: No place for me in Switzerland

Might I suggest that if you don't like the advice you're receiving in English Forum Switzerland, consider the honeybadger:

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Re: No place for me in Switzerland

OP - OK, I guess it was just the argument you wanted then. Good luck.
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Re: No place for me in Switzerland

Sorry Marco. There are very few native English speakers who say Swiss instead of Switzerland. It is mostly folk who have English as a second language that get a bit confused with the correct English use of the word "Swiss". You do realise that many people on this forum are not native English speakers including a lot who have replied to you here.

Good luck with your job search, but I am guessing that your biggest problem in finding a job is your attitude.

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SWISS! There are some people on this forum that use the word "SWISS" to refer to Switzerland! I live in Swiss, I'll be soon moving to Swiss...how would you feel if I'd say something like "I'll soon move to America", to refer to Canada? Or even better..."I'll soon move to Kanada". And by the way...there are some nice people on this forum...but the majority aren't, they like to kick newbies, especially when they are already down... Just look at some of the answer that new users get normally, for example the civil Engineer that wants to move from Spain to give a better life to his kids, asks for info...and he gets the reply "Stay where you are, fix your economy, and stop being a burden to the rest of Europe". Very nice, isn't it? By the way...I'm from Corsica, but lived only the first 2 years of my life there, and my father is from Italy. That's why the "Corsica-Italy" connection.
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Old 18.09.2011, 19:18
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Re: No place for me in Switzerland

As you are French-Italian, why not try one of the cantons that speak French or Italian, rather than German?

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As you are French-Italian, why not try one of the cantons that speak French or Italian, rather than German?
I'd recommend Kerguelen.
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SWISS! There are some people on this forum that use the word "SWISS" to refer to Switzerland! I live in Swiss, I'll be soon moving to Swiss...how would you feel if I'd say something like "I'll soon move to America", to refer to Canada? Or even better..."I'll soon move to Kanada". And by the way...there are some nice people on this forum...but the majority aren't, they like to kick newbies, especially when they are already down... Just look at some of the answer that new users get normally, for example the civil Engineer that wants to move from Spain to give a better life to his kids, asks for info...and he gets the reply "Stay where you are, fix your economy, and stop being a burden to the rest of Europe". Very nice, isn't it? By the way...I'm from Corsica, but lived only the first 2 years of my life there, and my father is from Italy. That's why the "Corsica-Italy" connection.
Oh, I was afraid you might say that... Yes, true, some say swiss, but still no reason to call them "lazy english-speaking immigrants". I think they just take the French suisse and make it English, nothing personal, doesn't make them all ignorant snobs.

I now finished reading this entire thread... I'm sorry you had a hard time because of some English speaking people, but it still doesn't give you the right to say everyone is the same. And what is that about this being your revenge? What did we, the English-speaking community on this forum ever did to you?
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What did we, the English-speaking community on this forum ever did to you?
Got a job and settled in Switzerland, I think.
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