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Old 18.09.2011, 11:00
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Parnell, your posts will be taken in the context of your broader post history so please, if you can't be bright and sunny at least some of the time, take a break from the computer.
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:01
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Wow! A smarmy, sarcastic comment on inner London public transport. Brave.
Well it worked every time for me .. but maybe that was because my commute was from Surrey ...
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:03
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Parnell, your posts will be taken in the context of your broader post history so please, if you can't be bright and sunny at least some of the time, take a break from the computer.
Umm - we won in the rugby yesterday - I'm all sunshine at the minute !

Ok - back to the topic - if someone is pregnant/old/handicapped/hurt then sure I'll give up my seat - but if they're being greedy (shopping usually) I'll be a little less friendly.
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:05
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Well it worked every time for me .. but maybe that was because my commute was from Surrey ...
That might do it, yes
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Misogynistic comment is misogynistic.
Far from being mysogynistic , I seek to spare her from the blatant sexism pregnant woman demand or expect from the world around them. There is nothing unhealthy about being pregnant, a pregnant woman is not crippled, infirm, frail or weak. In fact, she is probably at her healthiest and strongest time. If there was a valid medical reason for needing to sit down I am sure the transport system would see fit to provide reserved seats.

She managed to carry that shopping, it's just plain lazy to put them on a seat to make lifting easier. All she has to do is bend her knees, the correct way to lift heavy objects.

Rather though, leaving her bags on the seat and standing up was a bitchy pre-meditated , probably well rehearsed attack on any commuter that failed to place her on a self appointed pedestal. There is no need for her to stand and keep her bags on the seat, and no need for to react like she did.

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Old 18.09.2011, 11:09
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Should have checked the contents of the lady's bags. Full of cream cakes and cola and you could have accused of her lying about her pregnancy....
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:12
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Far from being mysogynistic , I seek to spare her from the blatant sexism pregnant woman demand or expect from the world around them. There is nothing unhealthy about being pregnant, a pregnant woman is not crippled, infirm, frail or weak. In fact, she is probably at her healthiest and strongest time. If there was a valid medical reason for needing to sit down I am sure the transport system would see fit to provide reserved seats.

She managed to carry that shopping, it's just plain lazy to put them on a seat to make lifting easier. All she has to do is bend her knees, the correct way to lift heavy objects.

Rather though, leaving her bags on the seat and standing up was a bitchy pre-meditated , probably well rehearsed attack on any commuter that failed to place her on a self appointed pedestal. There is no need for her to stand and keep her bags on the seat, and no need for to react like she did.

Manners for men, dammed if we do, dammed if we don't.
Maybe mate - but it's only maybe - she really does have pain with the bags - and anyhoo it doesn't cost you a lot to be courteous - I open doors myself for Mrs. P all the time.
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:15
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Far from being mysogynistic , I seek to spare her from the blatant sexism pregnant woman demand or expect from the world around them. There is nothing unhealthy about being pregnant, a pregnant woman is not crippled, infirm, frail or weak. In fact, she is probably at her healthiest and strongest time. If there was a valid medical reason for needing to sit down I am sure the transport system would see fit to provide reserved seats.
I actually agree with the rest of your comments. Yes, I think it can be frustrating for guys to figure out what the expected 'right thing' is when it comes to dealing with a pregnant woman. I think the fact any guy cares to try is lovely though. =)

But...healthiest and strongest time? Where do I even start? I'm only approaching the end of my first trimester (first baby), so I'll leave other women to respond to the rest of pregnancy. But let's just say that I've gone from a super fit girl who does regular cardio, heavy weights and walks 90 minutes a day to a 24/7 sick, fatigued sleepless wee thing who can barely manage a half hour walk each day, let alone force feeding myself with the morning sickness.

Ever had a case of parasites? Try one for 9 months and tell me you're at your healthiest.
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Old 18.09.2011, 11:21
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Far from being mysogynistic , I seek to spare her from the blatant sexism pregnant woman demand or expect from the world around them. There is nothing unhealthy about being pregnant, a pregnant woman is not crippled, infirm, frail or weak. In fact, she is probably at her healthiest and strongest time. If there was a valid medical reason for needing to sit down I am sure the transport system would see fit to provide reserved seats.

She managed to carry that shopping, it's just plain lazy to put them on a seat to make lifting easier. All she has to do is bend her knees, the correct way to lift heavy objects.

Rather though, leaving her bags on the seat and standing up was a bitchy pre-meditated , probably well rehearsed attack on any commuter that failed to place her on a self appointed pedestal. There is no need for her to stand and keep her bags on the seat, and no need for to react like she did.

Manners for men, dammed if we do, dammed if we don't.

You presume too much. Not every woman's pregnancy affects them the same. I've worked with women who were capable of working up until a week before due, I've worked with women who were put on bed rest only a few months in and I've observed my sister who was so sick for her entire pregnancy she had to be put on anti-nausea medication.

While it is likely that if she were in great discomfort she would not have been shopping in the first place, you can not possibly know how much worse it was for her to bend and lift vs stand and carry.
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Old 18.09.2011, 12:13
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You presume too much. Not every woman's pregnancy affects them the same. I've worked with women who were capable of working up until a week before due, I've worked with women who were put on bed rest only a few months in and I've observed my sister who was so sick for her entire pregnancy she had to be put on anti-nausea medication.

While it is likely that if she were in great discomfort she would not have been shopping in the first place, you can not possibly know how much worse it was for her to bend and lift vs stand and carry.
She is fit enough to go out shopping for bagfuls and provide theatrics on the way home...

As I keep saying, bending is easily avoidable, for all people, pregnant or not, you bend your knees...

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Re: Pregnant lady, you can have my seat but your shopping can't

True some women (and men in other intances) take advantage of certain situations, if she really had pain she could have told OP that she needed to put the bags there as she had trouble bending to pick them up or something.

A bit OT, when in highschool I used to go to church every Sunday with mum and a friend and when people got up to take communion, a woman who had two kids (one aged 5 the other one only months old) and was 95% too late to mass to grab an empty seat, would run to the empty seats and then when the person came back she would look all 'poor me'...I saw this a couple of times, then it was my turn, I asked her to move because that seat was taken, I was not buying her act, if she wanted to seat she could get up earlier as mass started at 10:00 am, I got some nasty looks from older women but I did not give a rat's ass...
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True some women (and men in other intances) take advantage of certain situations, if she really had pain she could have told OP that she needed to put the bags there as she had trouble bending to pick them up or something.

A bit OT, when in highschool I used to go to church every Sunday with mum and a friend and when people got up to take communion, a woman who had two kids (one aged 5 the other one only months old) and was 95% too late to mass to grab an empty seat, would run to the empty seats and then when the person came back she would look all 'poor me'...I saw this a couple of times, then it was my turn, I asked her to move because that seat was taken, I was not buying her act, if she wanted to seat she could get up earlier as mass started at 10:00 am, I got some nasty looks from older women but I did not give a rat's ass...

I agree, it's about self respect and not being taken for a mug based on someone that perceives their needs to be greater, or falling for a well practiced trick or play. If the need was really there, I don't think anyone would mind , but the people that abuse the need are starting to ruin it for those that do.
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Re: Pregnant lady, you can have my seat but your shopping can't

I must admit I do find it strange that every train has a luggage rack above each set of seats but nobody ever uses them. Would it not just be sensible for SBB to make a new rule that says no bags on seats just like no feet on seats?
I also find it strange to get a death stare when you ask if the seat is free. Personally life is to short to make such a big deal over a seat. Most of us sit at a desk all day long standing once or twice a day is not so bad.
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I had another idea for SBB. Make a third class which has no seats but charge us half price. You get more people on per train and my wife can buy more shoes.
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I must admit I do find it strange that every train has a luggage rack above each set of seats but nobody ever uses them. Would it not just be sensible for SBB to make a new rule that says no bags on seats just like no feet on seats?
I also find it strange to get a death stare when you ask if the seat is free. Personally life is to short to make such a big deal over a seat. Most of us sit at a desk all day long standing once or twice a day is not so bad.
you can put your feet on the seat

If you play your cards right on the train, you can block the whole 4 seats for yourself with a big suitcase.

I sat opposite a woman in a 4-set recently who was travelling with someone else in another 4-set of seats one row away. WTF? And her suitcase was blocking the rest of the seats.....but not for long
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It is more comfortable to have your bag next to you yes I admit it, but I do take it off the seat when someone comes to sit or looks like they want to sit down...
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmb...ow-she-does-it
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Re: Pregnant lady, you can have my seat but your shopping can't

When presented with two 'unbottomed' seats I always go for the one with bags on rather than the one that the person has left nice and empty.
I assumed that they put bags next to them because they didn't want a draft, so my body would be better wind barrier than their bags..... Am I wrong?
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When presented with two 'unbottomed' seats I always go for the one with bags on rather than the one that the person has left nice and empty.
I assumed that they put bags next to them because they didn't want a draft, so my body would be better wind barrier than their bags..... Am I wrong?
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Maybe they all have scabies and have been told not to pass it on.
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