 | | | 
29.09.2011, 22:35
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 2,459
Groaned at 175 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 4,947 Times in 1,902 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Why do women always have to serve food?  | | | | | women dont just serve food.
they cook it as well.
| 
29.09.2011, 22:39
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,488
Groaned at 414 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 20,435 Times in 10,578 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad
This is very interesting...I think the attitude is cultural. While we have huge banners back home and billboards for underwear, nobody bats an eye (they just banned them next to highways now), it is always my US female friends who are offended...while nobody else is.
And this is a political billboard for female politicians.
I went to a couple of political debates where some expat women were very angry at the concept but it seemed they actually envied the fact the place is unrestricted and a few times said your women are beautiful, why all this, just like "hide them", give them ugly underwear and cardigans from 50s. There is a different idea of modesty, me thinks, why project...If advertising objectifies, it does it fairly equally. Servile, well...it's in everyone, especially in customer service job.
So, I do not see the ad a way to please men, since everyone likes it. I actually think that ZU ad is the least controversial stuff, since it represents what it represents, flight attendants have to have certain specks, as my friend flight attendant told me, and she is hot, tall and has Masters in linguistics. The minute the specs will be removed, ads like that will be hypocritical. For now, it reflects reality.
Banners for hospital have handsome docs and pretty nurses, unies have youth with academic hats and looks, media is media. Gender roles will probably change the slowest where they are exploited for cash, like advertising.
__________________ "L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi “The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman "Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein
| The following 2 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:45
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Boston
Posts: 1,785
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 3,013 Times in 1,242 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad
Eer, why would anyone want to see a political candidate, female or otherwise, in a bathing suit? Not that I care since I don't vote around here but...I'm assuming folks aren't voting for cleavage.  (In which case #3 gets the vote).
| This user would like to thank poptart for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:45
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere special far away
Posts: 4,322
Groaned at 69 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 7,190 Times in 2,662 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | women dont just serve food.
they cook it as well. | | | | |
yes of course.. what would you like for dinner ?
Last edited by Sky; 30.09.2011 at 19:05.
| The following 3 users would like to thank Sky for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:48
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | |
yes of course.. what would you like for dinner ? | | | | | I'd like the best meat in town, please. | The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:49
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,488
Groaned at 414 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 20,435 Times in 10,578 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Eer, why would anyone want to see a political candidate, female or otherwise, in a bathing suit? Not that I care since I don't vote around here but...I'm assuming folks aren't voting for cleavage. (In which case #3 gets the vote). | | | | | Popularity hunt is cruel, but honestly, it's entertaining.. It comes from a culture, me thinks, number 4 has a nice smile...  (it's one political party, so the votes for the party will push all these political wenches into the political world the same way)..
That is done on top of the political agenda that gets hammered into people a year before elections. So, you know the program, etc etc. I prefer that than the visuals I have seen here, since the same stuff, less esthetics.
We also have banners like these, though...
__________________ "L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi “The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman "Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein
| This user would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:49
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Zug
Posts: 2,422
Groaned at 52 Times in 33 Posts
Thanked 2,523 Times in 1,215 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: |  | | | I'd like the freshest meat in town, please.  | | | | | uh oh, here we go again!!
| The following 2 users would like to thank NSchulzi for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:56
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere special far away
Posts: 4,322
Groaned at 69 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 7,190 Times in 2,662 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad
Ok DB, how about a steak event y'all ?
Now what really is the way to a man's attention ? and what grabs market attention for that matter ?
delicious food or a curvy female
(the butcher was just trying.... feel sorry for him)
Last edited by Sky; 30.09.2011 at 19:22.
| The following 3 users would like to thank Sky for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 22:59
|  | Newbie 1st class | | Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Geneva
Posts: 18
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | uh oh, here we go again!! | | | | | But no mutton thanks. | 
29.09.2011, 23:02
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Boston
Posts: 1,785
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 3,013 Times in 1,242 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Popularity hunt is cruel, but honestly, it's entertaining.. It comes from a culture, me thinks, number 4 has a nice smile... (it's one political party, so the votes for the party will push all these political wenches into the political world the same way)..
That is done on top of the political agenda that gets hammered into people a year before elections. So, you know the program, etc etc. I prefer that than the visuals I have seen here, since the same stuff, less esthetics.
We also have banners like these, though... | | | | | Hrm, if I had to suffer Obama, Palin and others in suits, my head would explode. Interesting but not really my thing for women in politics. I'd rather they get elected for their ideas (or lack thereof in Palins case as, if it were based on Hooters, that wench would be prez by now...which wouldn't be a good thing..) I don't need boobs, I need 'change I can believe in...' Just Sayin'. | The following 2 users would like to thank poptart for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 23:04
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Well, most of the guys around this here board are a bit on the guy side where they have, how shall we say, a bit less offense to women being portrayed in anachronistic roles and fashions as we do. | | | | | The "true" reason this kind of ad evokes different responses from women and men is because...the majority of women are just jealous (they wish they had that kind of bods), and men are, well, naughty boys | Quote: | |  | | | I guess that explains your oversized right arm then!  | | | | | | 
29.09.2011, 23:07
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere special far away
Posts: 4,322
Groaned at 69 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 7,190 Times in 2,662 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | ...the majority of women are just jealous (they wish they had that kind of bods), and men are, well, naughty boys  | | | | | no.... wrong impression.. women will compare themselves and appreciate the beauty of another women and will tell them.
Men can't do that.
| The following 3 users would like to thank Sky for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 23:08
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,488
Groaned at 414 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 20,435 Times in 10,578 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Hrm, if I had to suffer Obama, Palin and others in suits, my head would explode. Interesting but not really my thing for women in politics. I'd rather they get elected for their ideas (or lack thereof in Palins case as, if it were based on Hooters, that wench would be prez by now...which wouldn't be a good thing..) I don't need boobs, I need 'change I can believe in...' Just Sayin'.  | | | | | I know, nobody needs that since it is not essential, it's something plastered on top of other things since some cultures are more into esthetics and less into the whole modern gender stereotype thing or who wears the pants thing. Zen.
| 
29.09.2011, 23:15
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lausanne (Vaud)
Posts: 428
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 409 Times in 190 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | The "true" reason this kind of ad evokes different responses from women and men is because...the majority of women are just jealous (they wish they had that kind of bods), and men are, well, naughty boys  | | | | | Yes, the only dream of women is to be the perfect object for your fantasies. We aspire to nothing more than having that kind of bod so that we can serve you. How do you see into our souls like that?
(  )
| 
29.09.2011, 23:23
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,488
Groaned at 414 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 20,435 Times in 10,578 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | The "true" reason this kind of ad evokes different responses from women and men is because...the majority of women are just jealous (they wish they had that kind of bods), and men are, well, naughty boys  | | | | | Some women are their own toughest critics, that's true.
I like to look at pretty things, without feeling threatened, nor my gender, nor the fact it should make me feel like looking at pretty things and liking it makes me bimbo..it's not threatening. Nor does it say anything of how men see us. The whole hysterics with stereotyping gives zero trust to normal, common sense and power of human brain. Semantics never helped anyone. Esthetics and hedonims are embedded in culture, denying it too, as the campaigns and media here make me often feel.
| This user would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 23:28
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Deutschland
Posts: 270
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 155 Times in 101 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | ... and male models as well. 
Why do women always have to serve food?  | | | | | Curious - what would you otherwise propose these women do with food on the poster?
| This user would like to thank desperate for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 23:37
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Deutschland
Posts: 270
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 155 Times in 101 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad
By the way, a controversial ad is one thing... a controversial toilet is another: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbatistini/5176392846/
My favorite cafe on the grand place - the men's toilet (obviously).
A bit of controversy in life is good in my eyes, stimulates the mind.
| This user would like to thank desperate for this useful post: | | 
29.09.2011, 23:39
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,488
Groaned at 414 Times in 275 Posts
Thanked 20,435 Times in 10,578 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Curious - what would you otherwise propose these women do with food on the poster? | | | | | I have an idea but that's inappropriate  ...not that the airport food is the best, yuck. But better than Russian Army food, for sure.
I think society always goes in circles of refusing some stereotypes and then accepting them, depending on climate and cash, etc. Growing up in a place where serving is considered standard, by everyone in the family, to actually detach oneself from gender roles, me thinks.
Pretty girls with trays that ad is, if you ask me. Standard airport stuff. Now, comparing flight attendants apparel of dif companies is fun.
__________________ "L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi “The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman "Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein
| 
29.09.2011, 23:42
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Deutschland
Posts: 270
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 155 Times in 101 Posts
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad
Inappropriate ideas are often the best ideas | 
30.09.2011, 14:16
| | Re: A controversial (?) ad | Quote: | |  | | | Now, comparing flight attendants apparel of dif companies is fun.  | | | | | Like these trolley-dollies, you mean? |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 00:23. | |