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Re: an old swiss lady

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"I have video taped all your behaviour and I will report."
Well this would be a first....an old lady with a video.

But please do consider whether the distance you left between you and your son was enough for someone to grab him, which only takes a second.
That is what I would be worried about.
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Old 01.10.2011, 01:23
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Just less than half an hour ago, my 2 year old son threw a tantrum in front of our local bakery because his favorite schoggibrotli was sold out and he was too hungry to walk home.
Wish I'd been allowed to throw tantrums when I wasn't given exactly what I wanted.

And to all you youngsters out there, guess what, old ladies can own and operate video cameras. They can even use computers and the internet...
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Old 01.10.2011, 01:28
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Re: an old swiss lady

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Well this would be a first....an old lady with a video.

But please do consider whether the distance you left between you and your son was enough for someone to grab him, which only takes a second.
That is what I would be worried about.
I doubt anybody will grab a screaming child. It's the well behaved ones you need to watch like a hawk.
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I doubt anybody will grab a screaming child. It's the well behaved ones you need to watch like a hawk.
A stranger can have a calming effect....

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after i just sat down on the bench, i saw an old lady walking towards my son and hold his hand. Then they walked towards me hand in hand.
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Wish I'd been allowed to throw tantrums when I wasn't given exactly what I wanted.
Our approach is that you can throw as many tantrums and hissy fits as you like but you've blown all your chances of getting what it was you wanted.

Consequently the tantrum phase didn't last that long...
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Old 01.10.2011, 13:31
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Re: an old swiss lady

Then there are those like my father who approach these situations in a very different way. In my younger years, we lived in Vienna whilst my dad did his doctorate. Overall, my parents say it was the most racist place they've lived.

I'm half Persian, half English. My sister and I came out very fair skinned and her less Persian looking with her lighter hair and green eyes. My dad, however, is very dark.

One day my mum and dad were in the supermarket getting some stuff and my sister threw a temper tantrum. My dad scooped her up and took her outside to calm her down whilst my mum finished her shopping. My sister kept shrieking "I want mummy...I want mummy..leave me alone."

A nearby woman who was observing the situation went up to my dad and said "I don't think this is your child. Is this your child?"

"No," my father answered. "She's not. Mind your own business."

The woman started yelling at people "Help the child, this man is abducting her."

I won't even go into the rest of it but let's just say my mum came out to a huge, chaotic scene and my dad smugly showed that it was indeed his child. This is one of the milder stories of my father 'stirring the pot'. ;p
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Potatoding, I couldn't help but sympathise reading all these accounts in this thread (also sometimes amused!).

Just the other day, a man (looked 60, grey haired) approached me to tell me off for letting my dog play frisbee in an unused part of a public field (where there are no signs saying Dogs Forbidden or Leash Your Dog).

I asked him, "Where is it written?"

"Is everything written down in your country?"

"Yes," I answered, thinking all laws and bylaws are written down somewhere.

"Then your people must be a terrible lot," he said. "Be warned now. Next time I'm going to the police."

"Let's go to the police together now," I challenged him. He turned and started walking away. I shouted at him: "NOW! Let's go to the police NOW!"

He continued walking away muttering that I shouldn't talk so much or so loud.
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Re: an old swiss lady

thanks all for the responses, sharing your experience and giving me great tips!!

yes, the lady did say she has video taped me although i couldnt see a video camera in her hand. but i have noticed that she was proud of the fact that she could speak English really well at her age and owns and operates a video camera..

anyway, I am prepared to meet her again as my son's daycare is in the same building where she stays. I will make sure that i dont give her any attention that she wants and no more respect for her as she doesnt deserve it.

many thanks, brilliant EFers!
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Re: an old swiss lady

At the top of your voice shout, "Nurse! Nurse! She's out of bed again!"

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JDear EFers, any advise for me when i bump into her again?
thank you so much for helping me, the nice gentlemen and your colleagues if you happen to be on EF as well.
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Just less than half an hour ago, my 2 year old son threw a tantrum in front of our local bakery because his favorite schoggibrotli was sold out and he was too hungry to walk home. but I couldnt carry him as i got a pram to push where my baby girl (2 months old) lying in. and the baby started crying obviously she was very hungry as well and the last feed was 2 hours ago. I tried to explain to my son that we ought to go home as soon as possible because his little sister was starving and also promised him to make some nice pan cakes for him once we got home. but he was not listening and refused to be on the buggy board. so I just put him to sit on the ground and give him a time out while i walked to a bench underneath a big tree to breastfeed a bit to my baby. (the bench is probably 10 meters away from the time out point and my son is well in my sight and its a pedestrian area so no cars)
after i just sat down on the bench, i saw an old lady walking towards my son and hold his hand. Then they walked towards me hand in hand. I kind of know what to expect as she looked seriously angry. I thought I just needed to explain he was having a time out and i have to feed the baby etc. There she went: "What kind of mother are you?“ I said: ” I am sorry this upsets you, but he is having a time out and i am watching him.“ She interupted me and went again on top of her voice: “he is so young and you just left him like that!!! what is your name? i am going to report you to the authority. you abused him. in your country you dont know democracy. and you grew up in a cruel place therefore you treated your child badly like that.” i was really speechless and didnt understand what has made her think like that. I told her that she has every right to report me to whatever authority she wants to report but i also have the right to report her to the authority regarding the comments she made about where I am from. Then she continued shouting to me while pointing my son's birthmark and some scratchies :" what are these things on his face and head? what have you done to this poor littley guy? I have video taped all your behaviour and I will report. you people only know torturing others"
I dont know how to describe my feelings at that point. my boy was screaming and so was my baby. I could not raise my voice loud enough to make the lady listen. I just sat there in silence. Then one gentleman and his colleagues came who were sitting in front of the bakery having their lunch earlier on. They told me that i did things right because they saw everything and they would talk to the lady. I couldnt really hear what they were talking about as my ears were ringing and my eyes were going wet. all i know is that the gentleman and his colleagues came back and said to me she was just a stupid old lady. they told me to forget her and wanted to company me back home..I was so grateful that these people came out to prove that i wasnt abusing my child. If nobody saw what really happened, I would probably be intimidated and verbally abused by the lady for longer until she was satisfied.
I think I might see the lady again as she looks like she is from the residential home nearby. Dear EFers, any advise for me when i bump into her again?
thank you so much for helping me, the nice gentlemen and your colleagues if you happen to be on EF as well.
If you bump into her again,address her as Ms.Bünzli!
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