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Old 30.09.2011, 17:20
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What is the English Alphabet?

Does anybody know what the English Alphabet is?

I am looking at a contract set up by a Swiss lawyer in some sort of legalese English fraught with creative use of grammar.

In the place where I have to fill in my name it says, "use English Alphabet". I asked if I could use a pen instead and she looked at me blankly and said I should do what it says.

So what exactly is an English Alphabet? When I lived in England we used a Latin alphabet. Also, we didn't capitalise Alphabet.

In Old English we had various quaint letters such as the thorn and the joined up a-e thingy that have gone out of use. Could I use those, seeing they are part of an English alphabet?
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Old 30.09.2011, 17:26
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

I'd guess that it's a-z / A-Z (i.e. the 26 basic letters) no accents, chinese symbols or egyptian hyrogliphics etc.

A bit like what you use when writing in English...
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Old 30.09.2011, 17:27
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

The modern English alphabet is a Latin alphabet...

So, only the upper and lower case abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz - and, importantly, as it's English, the "z" is to be pronounced "zed"
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Does anybody know what the English Alphabet is?

I am looking at a contract set up by a Swiss lawyer in some sort of legalese English fraught with creative use of grammar.

In the place where I have to fill in my name it says, "use English Alphabet". I asked if I could use a pen instead and she looked at me blankly and said I should do what it says.

So what exactly is an English Alphabet? When I lived in England we used a Latin alphabet. Also, we didn't capitalise Alphabet.

In Old English we had various quaint letters such as the thorn and the joined up a-e thingy that have gone out of use. Could I use those, seeing they are part of an English alphabet?
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Old 30.09.2011, 17:35
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The modern English alphabet is a Latin alphabet...

So, only the upper and lower case abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz - and, importantly, as it's English, the "z" is to be pronounced "zed"
.... but "zee" rhymes better .....

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Old 30.09.2011, 17:40
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.... but "zee" rhymes better .....
go and rinse your mouth out, at once.
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Does anybody know what the English Alphabet is?

I am looking at a contract set up by a Swiss lawyer in some sort of legalese English fraught with creative use of grammar.

In the place where I have to fill in my name it says, "use English Alphabet". I asked if I could use a pen instead and she looked at me blankly and said I should do what it says.

So what exactly is an English Alphabet? When I lived in England we used a Latin alphabet. Also, we didn't capitalise Alphabet.

In Old English we had various quaint letters such as the thorn and the joined up a-e thingy that have gone out of use. Could I use those, seeing they are part of an English alphabet?
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. You may use only words from that sentence. Or something like that
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Old 30.09.2011, 20:18
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The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. You may use only words from that sentence. Or something like that
Back in the day of typewriters, that's what the typist would type to check all the keys were working/aligned, as it uses all the letters from a to z at least once.
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as it's English, the "z" is to be pronounced "zed"
Z is for Stripey Oss.
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

Could it also be referring to the font? At times, I have had bank tellers in Switzerland tear up my handwritten forms - sometimes because I have used the wrong 1 or 7, or even the wrong shaped 9. But it has also been because of the way I have formed other letters - including E, g, y and both upper and lower case z.
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

What if you were to use French letters instead of English ones?

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Old 01.10.2011, 00:53
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

.. qwerty ?
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The modern English alphabet is a Latin alphabet...

So, only the upper and lower case abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz - and, importantly, as it's English, the "z" is to be pronounced "zed"

Isn't the "h" also pronounced differently in English Alphabet - something like "haych"?
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Old 01.10.2011, 09:41
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

I get the point....I kind of wince too when somebody says English alphabet as it is strictly the Latin/Roman alphabet and to call it English is a little colonial.

But I guess what is meant here is that (and I'm on shaky ground here on a Saturday morning) English is the only European alphabet that uses the exact Latin alphabet whereas the others use it as a basis but add other letters and stuff eg

Spanish has 27 letters
French has 26 letters, but with some diacritics and ligatures
German has 30 letters

So even though they are all Latin alphabets, the English one with the 26 basic letters is the one to use - so no sneaking in any rogue umlauts, circumflexes or enes

Although I think that is the correct answer....the likely answer is that they think that all Brits and Yanks are stupid, and if they wrote "Latin alphabet", they'd say "I don't speak Latin". They may have been correct in that
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Re: What is the English Alphabet?

The Latin alphabet only has 23 letters ... and no lower-case form.

http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm
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Isn't the "h" also pronounced differently in English Alphabet - something like "haych"?
The correct pronounciation is 'aych'. But 'haych' is becoming increasingly common. Latin doesn't always refer to the ancient language. It also refers to things derived from Latin - like the Romance languages.

So, Latin alphabet = English alphabet. You could also call it the Dutch alphabet - also no diacritics. (except for the occasional diaeresis ).
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The Latin alphabet only has 23 letters ... and no lower-case form.

http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/classics/latalph.htm
The classical Latin alphabet has 23, the modern has 26
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The modern English alphabet is a Latin alphabet...

So, only the upper and lower case abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz - and, importantly, as it's English, the "z" is to be pronounced "zed"

In your quaint little country. In my continent sized country we pronounce "Z" as "zee" as we have evolved the language.
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