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Old 07.10.2011, 15:30
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I have noticed lately that ever since I got here, I have been given opinions about things that I never really asked for. Example: I asked a co-worker where I could find cheddar cheese locally and I got a "why would you want cheddar cheese" attached to the answer. When I first arrived I asked where the closest McDonalds was and I got a "Why would you want to eat that junk." I wanted to know what the best theater for seeing the new Harry Potter in English was and I got a response of "I am tired of American rubbish for movies." Where I come from, if someone asked me where a place was, I would tell them and not feel like I needed to pass judgement. I do notice that people on the forum do that as well. You get a lot of "why would you want to do that" attached to the beginning of an answer. Is this a Swiss thing? Why can't people either answer the question or say they don't know. Why add your opinion?
OK, think of it this way: you're in the US and there a country called Switzerland with a population of 13 billion (the size that the US population is greater than the Swiss one). This Switzerland place is sending folk over to the USA to work.

These Swiss don't speak any English and all they ask is where can they get Aromat. What would your answer be??
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Old 07.10.2011, 15:34
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OK, think of it this way: you're in the US and there a country called Switzerland with a population of 13 billion (the size that the US population is greater than the Swiss one). This Switzerland place is sending folk over to the USA to work.

These Swiss don't speak any English and all they ask is where can they get Aromat. What would your answer be??
"thank you for taking all the swiss companies and relocating them and related jobs to the US so that they are taxed here instead and we can live a luxurious lifestyle based on corporate tax evasion."?
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Old 07.10.2011, 15:38
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"thank you for taking all the swiss companies and relocating them and related jobs to the US so that they are taxed here instead and we can live a luxurious lifestyle based on corporate tax evasion."?
I don't think that's really the answer of the average American in the street, do you?


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These Swiss don't speak any English and all they ask is where can they get Aromat. What would your answer be??


"Why sure, happy to help.

Aromat can be found in many larger grocery stores - and in cities its' readily available in the smaller ethnic markets. It's usually found in the spice aisle, next to the boullion. And if you can't find it at your supermarket, why, it's available on Amazon.com - delivered wherever you wish.

Have a great day, y'all."





Of course the above would have been said sloooooooowly and LOUDLY.

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Old 07.10.2011, 15:47
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I had forgotten, when I was first in CH I described day to day conversation as just a list of complaints strung together.
In South Africa, Rhodesian immigrants would begin their conversations "When we ....( were in Rhodesia we did/had/got/ate/bought/etc etc) .. and so they became known as "Whenwe`s"

Here in Switzerland .... there are also Whenwe`s .. or Why`s

"Whenwe" live in other countries, we are foreigners, in an alien land, and maybe we believe that OUR ways are the only correct ways to be?

The food, drinks, culture, dress, talk, is not "ours" - it belongs to another tribe and culture, so tis easier to just adapt. They do not know our ways, but we can learn theirs.
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Old 07.10.2011, 16:38
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"Why sure, happy to help.

Aromat can be found in many larger grocery stores - and in cities its' readily available in the smaller ethnic markets. It's usually found in the spice aisle, next to the boullion. And if you can't find it at your supermarket, why, it's available on Amazon.com - delivered wherever you wish.

Have a great day, y'all."
Other version: "No prob. I know for sure from my Swiss neighbors that the closest store that carries it is 350 miles away, but since our gasoline is so stinking cheap compared to yours that shouldn't be a problem. Want some brown sugar instead?"
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Old 08.10.2011, 00:24
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Re: Unsolicited Opinions

The examples I gave had nothing to do with Swiss vs US. Cheddar cheese is not US, as one forum member pointed out, Harry Potter is not American and neither are any actors in any of the 8 films. McDonalds started in the US, but they are global now. It always seems to be "if it's not Swiss than it's crap American" which is true only in very limited circumstances.

P.S - I even got a "Coop has better quality" when I asked about a Migros near to my school.
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Old 08.10.2011, 00:33
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Re: Unsolicited Opinions

Jerallie, you don't want to be asking questions like that here on the English Forum. What you should be doing is asking everyone else on the street, discarding the lowest and highest 10% of your sample audience, then using a standard demographic tool (we have a Bundesamt of Statistics in Bern) taking the median and closest matching age, race and sex type and then just agreeing with them.

What was your question again?
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Old 08.10.2011, 00:36
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but seriously, why do you go to McDonalds??
to sit and contemplate all the vast numbers of wonderful things that Switzerland has contributed to the world.

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Old 08.10.2011, 09:54
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I have noticed lately that ever since I got here, I have been given opinions about things that I never really asked for. Example: I asked a co-worker where I could find cheddar cheese locally and I got a "why would you want cheddar cheese" attached to the answer. When I first arrived I asked where the closest McDonalds was and I got a "Why would you want to eat that junk." I wanted to know what the best theater for seeing the new Harry Potter in English was and I got a response of "I am tired of American rubbish for movies." Where I come from, if someone asked me where a place was, I would tell them and not feel like I needed to pass judgement. I do notice that people on the forum do that as well. You get a lot of "why would you want to do that" attached to the beginning of an answer. Is this a Swiss thing? Why can't people either answer the question or say they don't know. Why add your opinion?
Yes it's pretty much a Swiss thing...I never experienced anything similar anywhere...
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Old 08.10.2011, 11:37
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Re: Unsolicited Opinions

Last year I went over the Border to France for supper. The conversation with the guy at customs was as follows:

"Where are you going?"

"Over to France"

"Why are you going?"

"For an evening meal"

"Why are you going to France to eat, Why not eat in Switzerland?"

"Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

We then went over and had a fab meal at a very good price...
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Old 08.10.2011, 14:03
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Last year I went over the Border to France for supper. The conversation with the guy at customs was as follows:

"Where are you going?"

"Over to France"

"Why are you going?"

"For an evening meal"

"Why are you going to France to eat, Why not eat in Switzerland?"

"Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

We then went over and had a fab meal at a very good price...
maybe you should have just said 'to have a foursome with another couple'.
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Jerallie, you don't want to be asking questions like that here on the English Forum. What you should be doing is asking everyone else on the street, discarding the lowest and highest 10% of your sample audience, then using a standard demographic tool (we have a Bundesamt of Statistics in Bern) taking the median and closest matching age, race and sex type and then just agreeing with them.

What was your question again?
This might be very useful. Generally I thought that people I KNEW or WORKED WITH would be the best people to ask, but they seem to be the one who give the opinions. Maybe I should just ask some poor Swiss on the street and hope that A: he speaks enough English/broken German and B: Doesn't try to give an opinion in Swiss German
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I hate making this (or anything) into a "Swiss thing" but in the 8 years I have had children, almost 4 of them were in the UK and I can only recall one time when in the UK someone butted in. So please explain why it happens to me all the time here? [/QUOTE
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sorry for the off-topic...


we moved here from uk 3 years ago when my daughter was 4. we went to a coffee place and my daughter went over to the bar asking the lady for a glass of water. she came back after a few minutes, hands empty, and said to us: i think the lady is deaf.
people running over children or bumping into them with their bags without apologizing is another thing that drives me mad!.
had to get that off finally...
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Re: Unsolicited Opinions

Try this: "If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you".
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Old 08.10.2011, 22:31
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Someone please give me one good reason why it's not appropriate to simply respond in a natural way - by loudly passing a massive hurricane of wind.

Anyone tried this yet? If so, please advise.
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Someone please give me one good reason why it's not appropriate to simply respond in a natural way - by loudly passing a massive hurricane of wind.

Anyone tried this yet? If so, please advise.
Kids, do not try to do this near open flames.
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Old 08.10.2011, 23:10
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Kids, do not try to do this near open flames.
Or near a cop.

http://youtu.be/pT8Wr_TPpfA
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Last year I went over the Border to France for supper. The conversation with the guy at customs was as follows:
"Where are you going?"
"Over to France"
"Why are you going?"
"For an evening meal"
"Why are you going to France to eat, Why not eat in Switzerland?"
"Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
We then went over and had a fab meal at a very good price...
This one happened to me too ! .. years ago
Exactly the same questions.
The French customs guy was quite aggressive and impressive
"Why are you going to France to eat ?"

"Because French men are so handsome"

.. I really did get away with it, he let me through
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This one happened to me too ! .. years ago
Exactly the same questions.
The French customs guy was quite aggressive and impressive
"Why are you going to France to eat ?"

"Because French men are so handsome"

.. I really did get away with it, he let me through
So it's a French thing too??
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