That was sarcastically ridiculous

If the SBB/CFF brought back smoking carriages, (maybe between the first and second class) all the smokers would meet up at the place where the smoking wagons arrive, and this would solve the problem: the smokers wouldn't need to have one last cigarette, and the non smokers could also keep away.

In Germany there are white squares painted on the platforms, where smoking is permitted. Isn't that sensible?

Well, I am (unfortunately) a smoker, and regardless of the law, I do think it is and should be every smoker's personal moral responsibility to be aware of where they are smoking and to try to smoke as far away as possible from non-smokers, even if this means that they have to wait to have a cigarette.

I never smoke around children and, if I do feel an urge to have a cigarette in a public area, I always go off in a quiet, abandoned corner somewhere.

Yep. I'm the creepy smoker you see standing in a dark, isolated corner.

Someone...

Please...

Just kill me now.

What I can't stand is when they take their last inhale before stepping onto the train, then exhale all their smoke into the train carriage.

Then you see them again before they are about to get off, standing at the door with cigarette already in mouth and lighter in hand. The second they step off the train they light up.

There will never be any peace, anywhere, amongst us smokers and you non smokers.

We have been banished from trains, planes and restaurants and some homes because we enjoy our cigs.

Is that not enough? Have you "cough cough" i'm alergic to smoke people not won your battle?

I, also, am a considerate smoker. I do not blow smoke into peoples faces at bus stops - if the wind is blowing their way i move places, i do not smoke around children, nor the elderly. My non smoking friends put up with it.

So, what is the problem?

You stink when you get on the train. Stay on the platform. HTH

The problem is that not everyone is like you - I wish they were.

When someone blows their smoke in my face, it makes me feel like farting on them. I wonder how they would react...

Some of us might actually like it.

Well that's a strange and slightly frightening insight into your fetishes...

My son does it quite regularly (the farting next to me) I think it's still smell better...

We do not blow smoke in your faces. And those that do are just rude.

As i have said for yonks - us smokers have given up a lot of our freedom to smoke to you namby pamby non smokers, so give us a break.

We try our best to not offend, so stop being babies and accept that there are going to be smokers around you in public. Live with it. Or go and live in little bubbles of fresh smoke free air. Get away from pollution, get your kids in buggies away from car fumes etc.

I changed my avatar, can everyone else see the the dancing cat? Not really dancing, leaping.

Well, I will leave my two-cents here. Personally, I am a non-smoker, but I don't despise smokers nor I think they are rude. I have never had someone blowing smoke in my face (nor farting, lucky me) and I see less smokers in Zürich than back in my home country (maybe they hide more?). The only thing I really don't like is that they throw whatever they have left anywhere! But well, they do that in every place I have been to, so...

My mom is a smoker and my sisters too. Maybe that just sways my opinion, who knows. Almost every smoker I have met is polite. They just like to enjoy their cigs. I don't like the smell so I just stay far away.

And yes, Patsycat, I see the cat. Very cute, actually!!

Thank you for being considerate and not blowing smoke in people's faces.
However, people do not complain because they are allergic to cigarette smoke, it is because cigarette smoke is dangerous, which can (and does) kill.

Many smokers smoke at small bus stations, particularily the covered sections and practically force the non-smokers out

But not quite in the same way as Nelson Mandela...

Are non-smokers/ex-smokers namby pambies or could your coin of phrase also apply to those smokers who are too "namby-pamby" to have the will to give up.
That takes more guts.

I don't, I complain because it makes me want to vomit. I only have this problem first thing in the morning and when I'm ill, but it makes me physically nauseous. Patsycat, YOU don't blow smoke in peoples' faces but don't say that smokers don't, because they do (as you recognise in your next sentence by saying that people who do are rude). I don't have a problem with smokers like you at all.

I am not an extreme anti-smoker and actually enjoy a cigarette from time to time (normally after a few glasses of wine) but when I smoke, I make sure I don't bother other people with it. My colleagues find it funny when we have an apéro at work as I'll often go outside with the smokers and blow smoke up into the air or waft it away from them.

Yes, thank you

Actually, my complaint is the smell. It lingers on their clothes and I have been known to change seats on the tram if a smoker sits near me. And I often have to move "up wind" while waiting for the bus/tram/train, just to get out of the cloud of smoke. One time I had moved out of the bus shelter when the woman next to me lit up. She noticed, apologized and moved away. The first and only time that has happened, I might add I smiled and thanked her.

"Yeah, I'd be gutted if someone lit up a cigarette a few metres away from me on an open station platform. Just think what's that's doing to your lungs!"

I think it is good to have a isolated place at the public places for smokers. it does not reduce the taste of the cigarette but save others from smoke. It forces you to walk a bit longer to smoke and therefore it is likely help to to give up few cigarette per day.

Besides, it is never easy to quit smoke, so if you are forced to do it, you have chance, a bit unpleasant though.

Smokers are weird ! I am a non-smoker, but have some Shishas. I remember to have been in the Schwimmbad Mythenquai enjoying a shisha and some definite smokers complaining we ARE smokers but simply smoke a decent cigarette and not this stinky thing
I replied while I do not smoke stinking cigarettes but enjoy a nice shisha
-- I knew that a medical station was nearby as their heads looked like over-ripe tomatoes


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Sure, also people suffering from LEPRA had an isolated place for many a century