Which i do not - while waiting for a bus i stand outside the bus stop and let the others cuddle up together for heat. They are usually older people who i would give my seat to anyway. When there is only four seats available.

I am not speaking for smokers in general. Some can be annoying.

But me, as a smoker,I try to curb my addiction as much as possible to entertain your total hissy fits over clothes smelling and passive smoking.

Perhaps, you should find other things to complain about. Than some random person enjoying a wee smoke in public. Because you will never win. Not in Switzerland, anyway. Or any other country. Everywhere there are smokers.

I read the other month that two dogs died from heroin overdoses in a park in Geneva. They had ate the poo of drug addicts under a tree. Perhaps your campaign against anything that is not good for the body should perhaps go in that direction rather than smokers.

At least we don't poo in public.

I would like 2015 to commence with the fact that we all have our little foibles and addictions. And the arguments stop.

But i am sure in a few months there will be someone else complaining about smoking. Perhaps it'll be me!!!

"ah, yuk yuck yuck and she stank eeeuuuuck"!!

You don't seem to be getting much sympathy on this board! Let them eat cake!

Having watched a dear friend die of the most aggressive throat cancer as a result of having smoked most of his life, many of these folks may live to regret the habit.

You have my support.......there's a correlation between smoking and the national psyche in Switzerland!

See attached articles :-

http://www.unige.ch/fapse/psychosoci...omirpubli.html

My advise is always stand up-wind on a station platform or at a bus stop.

Good luck!

I couldn't agree with you more...




... poo-eating dog cull!!!

The Problem is a wider one. On 31stDEC 2400 plus a few minutes, I sat in a tram, and tolerated that a chap lit a cigarette. Within 2 minutes about five persons started Smoking. Tolerance is NOT appreciated at all. I next time will start to talk about phoning the Police.

Our daughter was 10 and son 7, and very aware that they lost a grandfather aged 65 to combination of aggressive lung cancer and prostate cancer. He was a smoker, and a medical doctor, so it wasn't as if he didn't know better.

Now ages 15 and 12, they are the first to complain about smokers on the platforms (Stadelhofen is a frequently used station for us). Should I tell them not to complain and focus on something else instead

Apologies, my quoting went lopsided, but point the same.

OT: You might want to delete what I bolded to get the quoting right

Not all smokers at train stations are selfish or ignorant, but I sure do see quite a few, who, in my opinion, are. Those Vicky Pollard-types have no courtesy at all and don't think that puffing in the direction of children is just dangerous! I feel specially sorry for their kids, who are breathing in all that smoke, while they are strapped in their buggies.

Perhaps train platforms could have Camel lounges like the airport? Then everyone emerging would board the same carriage and leave their stench. It is a good thing the train stations and bus-stops are well-staffed with cleaning gnomes, can't imagine the general population would tolerate the environmental impact of all the butts lying around after 2-3 drags before boarding.

Happy New Year Wollifshofener

On the one hand grateful on New Year you did not bother Police. On the other hand, neither my OH or self have traveled much on public transport, except to say have never seen anyone smoke on Public Transport in Switzerland since law changed. I guess if we did on similiar date, we would turn a blind eye.

all good wishes

I've actually seen it happen quite a few times. Twice in a bus and a couple of times on trains.

Pity I wasn't there and had a pump action with me.

Tom

And in toilets. It shocks me that people can't even be bothered to walk outside to smoke, they do it in the toilet instead. (I've even seen it at places with a fumoir, where the fumoir is literally next to the toilets...)

Toilets are a good place to smoke, as they are vented.

Tom

And the toilets are where we usually did it in the ever so revered International School of Geneva.

Until one of the teachers came in and took our cigs off us - and she was a smoker. She must have had at least a months free cigs in her bag!!! Every day.

Five or ten packs of Marlboro a day... "I'll take those" and off she pottered to smoke behind the chemistry lab.

After that we went off campus - and were free to do whatever we wanted. We weren't young, we were 16, 17 at the time.


As i have argued about is the fact that i enjoy smoking. The day i don't i shall stop. Probably do it cold turkey like my dad did.

I haven't seen anyone smoke on a tram or bus in Geneva in decades - must be a Zurich thing. But i did get a nice sniff of marijuana the other day!!

The ones at the Chilbi we went to weren't. Someone was smoking in one of the cubicles and the whole place was full of smoke.

I had to take my two youngest to the loo so was in there for quite a time.
But when we had finished, I filled up a container with water and tipped it up over the cubicle door all over the smoker.

I did shout "Feuer" at the same time.

Toilets are not a good place to smoke.

You enjoy smoking so much that you'll do it in a toilet?

When the law banning inside smoking was made, people started smoking near the building entrances, then the bad weather came and they moved downstairs to the underground car parks. This creates a big fire risk, as fuel tanks might be leaking. I don't understand why the police do not take action.

Which is creating the fire hazard - the smoking or the leaking fuel tank? I guess the police would be more concerned with the dodgy car.

My wife often does at home.

Tom

When i was 16 i smoked in the toilets at school. And at home.

Nowadays i smoke whereever i want. there is no law against me smoking in my own home or outside a restaurant. At my mum's we are allowed to smoke in the kitchen with the window open. The only time me and my sister and brother were allowed to smoke in her living room was when my dad died. And that was strange, having been used to going to the kitchen.

And, as i have said, i am polite about it.

Ask Angela, we met for a drink. I smoked, outside, one cigarette in 2 hours. In fact i puffed two times, put the cig back in the pack and re-smoked it later. After that lovely cat got off my knee.