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CoderMark 13.10.2011 09:47

Smokers on railway stations
 
Having been here now for about 6 weeks I've noticed that, while waiting for trains to Zurich, or back at night, that some people (smokers) seem to think it is totally acceptable to stand next to some normal person (non-smoker) and puff on their cancer-sticks, exhaling their carcinogenic fumes for everyone else to inhale... so (with looks of disgust) I just move somewhere else on the gleiss only to have the same thing happen again.
Ok, 'when in Rome' and all that... but is this normal acceptable behaviour in Switzerland, or are these people just the Swiss equivalent of the anti-social scum we have in England... because even if I was (god forbid) a smoker then I wouldn't force someone else to endanger their health in this way....

any thoughts ?

Mud 13.10.2011 09:49

Re: Smokers on railway stations
 
Normal acceptable behavior.

HTH :)

BokerTov 13.10.2011 09:50

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
any thoughts ?

Here we go again...

(getting the popcorn ready:msntongue:)

little_isabella 13.10.2011 09:52

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Common here. I was wondering about bus shelters. Smoking in bus shelters is banned in many countries but I see it a lot here. Banned here as well or no?

Keith66 13.10.2011 09:54

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Hasn't this been done to death by now?

Mud 13.10.2011 09:58

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Originally Posted by Keith66 (Post 1374503)
Hasn't this been done to death by now?

Shhh- we need all the distraction we can get :msnblush:.

Kamarate 13.10.2011 10:05

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Originally Posted by Keith66 (Post 1374503)
Hasn't this been done to death by now?

Groaned for this exact reason and the "all smokers are evil" diatribe. I don't like it either and it is inconsiderate, but as you said... "when in Rome".

CoderMark 13.10.2011 10:11

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Thanks for the info, I'm not having a go at smoker's.... it's just that if I ever decided to commit suicide then I wouldn't want to take everyone else with me.....

If it's normal then I guess I'll just be the one standing at the end of the platform on his own.... and everyone is happy....

13.10.2011 10:13

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You are not alone,
I am here with you

Well maybe not me but http://www.englishforum.ch/complaint...rms-uughh.html

Kamarate 13.10.2011 10:15

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374537)
I'm not having a go at smoker's

Really?

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
some people (smokers) seem to think it is totally acceptable to stand next to some normal person (non-smoker)

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
puff on their cancer-sticks

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
exhaling their carcinogenic fumes for everyone else to inhale

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
with looks of disgust

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
anti-social scum

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
even if I was (god forbid) a smoker

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
force someone else to endanger their health in this way....


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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374537)
.... it's just that if I ever decided to commit suicide then I wouldn't want to take everyone else with me.....

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Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374537)
If it's normal then I guess I'll just be the one standing at the end of the platform on his own.... and everyone is happy....

Kind of sounds like you are.

NotAllThere 13.10.2011 10:15

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Originally Posted by Mud (Post 1374487)
Normal acceptable behavior.

HTH :)

Well, normal behaviour. Did you also know that 90% of litter in the streets is smoking related? :rolleyes: Funny though, all the smokers I know personally are considerate to non-smokers.

Germanbeerisbetter 13.10.2011 11:30

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Well lets all face up to the truth.
Without exception, smokers do not use the ash trays. As they are so downright lazy and selfish, it’s much easier for them to just throw them on the floor. Which makes me think, as they probably want to remove the god awful taste from their mouths, it’s probably them chewing on gum and just spitting it out. So if they have no qualms about that, then it wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of rubbish that is strewn about the streets comes from smokers. I mean seriously, you wouldn’t catch a non-smoker acting so outrageously.
Something should be done about these people. The stinking, cancerous fumes that they spew out are adding to the effects of global warming. They are literally killing the planet! And the effects of second hand smoke are causing a record amount of cancers.
What with the overcrowding of the planet, and the frankly criminal actions of this degenerate section of our society, perhaps we really need to start thinking of some drastic action. In order to save the planet perhaps we should think about the death penalty for smokers? I mean, they don’t care about killing you, and as you have no escape in the open air from these people, you WILL get cancer from their old smoke, so why should we care about them and not us and our planet? Think of all the Polar bears we can save! Plus if we get rid of the smokers, we don’t need to worry that the cars we drive are spewing out noxious fumes and adding to climate change – we’ll be offsetting that by removing this criminal element of our society (after that we can move on to motorbikers but that’s another post).
I once saw a woman in a beer garden quite rightly chastising somebody for smoking 2 tables down from her, even though there was nobody near him at all and the wind was blowing the other way. Murderous b@5tard. Thank god they can no longer smoke inside in a bar or a club, at work, on the train, in a plane and now with many new rental contracts, in their own homes! Soon there will be no place left for them!!
Do they have any idea how much money smoking costs the NHS in the UK a year? 5 Billion Pounds!! Ok sure they might contribute a small amount of money to the exchequer, but I’m sure that we can get that 11 Billion pounds a year from another tax that now everybody, including all the non-smokers will have to pay (maybe a tax on masturbation? That way I’m sure there will be a few people paying a lot more than others).
Then we will have no more rubbish on the streets, no more people on the train with their ipods turned up pumping out that annoying music, no more people putting their bags on seats so you can’t sit down, no more hunger or poverty, and if you think about it, the people that barge you off trains or busses MUST be smokers running off for their next fix. Just another reason to get rid of them.
Utopia.

Or, if we think REALLY drastically, I’m talking totally “out there”, we can just acknowledge that every section of society has some anti-social people, smokers/non-smokers, old/young, etc, etc, take a deep breath (smoke free) and move down the platform a little bit.

Kamarate 13.10.2011 11:36

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I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not until I got to the "death penalty" bit - lol.

Germanbeerisbetter 13.10.2011 11:37

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Right, I'm off for a ciggie break whilst I await my first groans.....

Bexie 13.10.2011 11:43

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Typical of the gramsconazi brainwashed English people here, who believe every bit of drivel handed down by the health "experts"

you should read some other material on this such as "dying for a cigarette" or "smoking, class and the establishment" before making the statements here.

Accept the fact that the Swiss like smoking, dont care what dodgy studies pronounce and wish to continue to do so. If you dont like that you dont have to be here...

Keith66 13.10.2011 11:46

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Originally Posted by Kamarate (Post 1374740)
I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not until I got to the "death penalty" bit - lol.

Me neither!

Upthehatters2008 13.10.2011 11:46

Re: Smokers on railway stations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoderMark (Post 1374483)
Having been here now for about 6 weeks I've noticed that, while waiting for trains to Zurich, or back at night, that some people (smokers) seem to think it is totally acceptable to stand next to some normal person (non-smoker) and puff on their cancer-sticks, exhaling their carcinogenic fumes for everyone else to inhale... so (with looks of disgust) I just move somewhere else on the gleiss only to have the same thing happen again.
Ok, 'when in Rome' and all that... but is this normal acceptable behaviour in Switzerland, or are these people just the Swiss equivalent of the anti-social scum we have in England... because even if I was (god forbid) a smoker then I wouldn't force someone else to endanger their health in this way....

any thoughts ?


You have every right to move away. Why did you not exercise your right ?

It's your health, either maintain your position and risk instant death by passive nicotine or gracefully move away and protect your health. Do not expect others to worry about your health, it's yours, do what you have to.

BTW, your walk to the station, in the city fumes and polution was more dangerous.

Helm 13.10.2011 11:47

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I'm sorry, but I have to quite disagree with you.

Being actually allergic to cigarette smoke, I have to pay close attention where I stand. If I see people smoking in places where is actually forbidden, I play the old git and mention the case. Apart from a grumpy tourist, no problem found there.

But if some stranger is blowing the smoke in my face, I politely ask the person to avoid doing it.

And you know what? They do it. Most smokers are actually not aware the smoke is going exactly your direction because the smoking is an automatic gesture and they can't control the wind, unless they are Ororo Monroe. If you politely talk to them, instead of going into a rage filled crusade, it usually works.

I am very happy I am actually able to enter a bar/ restaurant/ disco whatever without having an asphyxiation attack. But at the same time, politeness towards people who enjoy a cigarette solves many problems.

About 80% of the EFrs that I see weekly smoke. I even go out “for a smoke” with them. I only had to tell them once “I’m allergic to smoke”. After that situation no one has smoked in my face, and sometimes they clumsily try to find a place to avoid me, but we still enjoy each other’s company.

And to be honest, this thing of "when in Rome..." is pure nonsense. If I find something utterly wrong in a country I am visiting I am not going to do it just because all the other sheep do it. But I won't be the goat screaming just to be against.

Communication is the base of human relations. Use it. It would solve probably all the problems in this world.

zubin 13.10.2011 11:48

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I agree- ut ameris, annabilis esto and all that.

SOTW unite, I say.

Germanbeerisbetter 13.10.2011 11:48

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Me? Sarcastic? Never! :msngrin:


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