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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

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Again, you asked for it:



You accused someone of being racist when they simple pointed out that using stereotypes against Swiss women will get you no where.
It wasn't my comment on her as a person, but on her comments.

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It wasn't my comment on her as a person, but on her comments.
What comments are you speaking of, exactly?
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I get asked quite often if I'm going to go back to the UK and I don't see it as rude. Just see it as people making conversation because as soon as I tell them I came over to stay because my girlfriend is Swiss, they just say,so you're here for good then!
Thanks for your comment.
But all depends on people and context. But in the beginning of my life in Switzerland I experienced some difficult situations. In my first location I lived with a Swiss lady who blatantly criticized an arrival of the foreigners. She was underemployed, couldn't find a decent job. I was very understanding, helped her as much as I could but one day she decided to sack me. She said: "You are salaried, why I work like a house cleaner". Believe me, it was painful.
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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

slightly confused - so you had one bad experience with a Swiss lady so all Swiss ladies will be exactly like her?
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Old 02.11.2011, 17:07
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Thanks for your comment.
But all depends on people and context. But in the beginning of my life in Switzerland I experienced some difficult situations. In my first location I lived with a Swiss lady who blatantly criticized an arrival of the foreigners. She was underemployed, couldn't find a decent job. I was very understanding, helped her as much as I could but one day she decided to sack me. She said: "You are salaried, why I work like a house cleaner". Believe me, it was painful.

So how does that translate to:

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Swiss women are very unsecure and, I think, backstabbers
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....but they think I should return to that shambo anyway, so that they can feel good because I will be underachieving for the rest of my life.
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That annoys Swiss ladies, who think that woman's life shoud be 9-17/marriage/mortgage, not to be a wanderer.
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slightly confused - so you had one bad experience with a Swiss lady so all Swiss ladies will be exactly like her?
I also witnessed difficult situations the other foreign people had. My experience with my first housemate wasn't jus one-off situation, it was a repeated experience.

I wish that woman well, although I was homeless for a while.
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I also witnessed difficult situations the other foreign people had. My experience with my first housemate wasn't jus one-off situation, it was a repeated experience, that is a detail.

tell me when you reach the 51% of population so your comment of swiss women actually applies.
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I also witnessed difficult situations the other foreign people had. My experience with my first housemate wasn't jus one-off situation, it was a repeated experience.

I wish that woman well, although I was homeless for a while.
I think you're digging a great big hole for yourself here mate and the more you dig the bigger it will get! Quit while your behind!
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Old 02.11.2011, 17:22
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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

Argent, I feel you may be culturally overloaded. You've lived/traveled in quite a few countries since 1995 and although you say you never want to go back to Poland, you carry the Polish upbringing and norms with you. Naturally with some adjustments through your travels.

I hope you can take a step back from all your experiences and come and join a few of us on a night out or for a meal, it sounds like you need some fun.

I say this in the kindest sense and not to add to your distress.
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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

I've Polish, Russian, Mexican and even English colleagues. They've all been asked from time to time when they're going back. It's just a polite enquiry. Same as when I'm asked "Are you going home for Christmas". Well, yes, but my home is here. It's a perfectly normal question in a high ex-pat country.

"When are you going back" only means "Get back to your own country you disgusting foreigner, you have no right to be here" in the minds of
a) the paranoid
b) people with chips on their shoulders
c) and/or the SVP.

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Why do you dare to say that my work & life experience is a burden without knowing the details. You sound like a racist
Everyone who disagrees with you is racist? Get a grip. (btw, that was in instance of you being insulting).

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Polish are not Eastern Europeans, we are Central Europeans, as Czech, Slovakian, Hungarian.
Er... not to a huge number of Western Europeans. For many people, and especially Americans, mainly due to the Iron Curtain I guess, there's Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Central Europe, if it exists at all, is CH and Austria. Check out www.dailymail.co.uk to see how the British popular press refer to the Polish.
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Check out www.dailymail.co.uk to see how the British popular press refer to the Polish.
THis really made me giggle - you gave a link to the daily mail for him to read about British opinions on the Polish - the guy will blow a fuse!

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THis really made me giggle - you gave a link to the daily mail for him to read about British opinions on the Polish - the guy will blow a fuse!

wow...all you need is to type in "Polish" as the search phrase and you'll get it! Some nasty paper I tell ya...

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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

Aw Argent, my heart goes out to you. Truly! It sounds like you are not in a happy place at all and your hypersensitivity is a ball and chain weighing you down.

Based on how you described the story with your landlady, her comments really come across as completely innocent, however it is entirely possible that you were aware of subtle undertones in the context of your broader conversation with her or past conversations. Either way I think you are being incredibly over sensitive. If is extremely unhealthy to go through life over analysing and interpreting everything people say to us, not just strangers and aquaintances but even family members, friends, colleagues etc. We often have little control over our external environments and no control over other people's thoughts, attitudes, belief systems etc, however we do have the capacity to change our own thought processes, behaviour, outlook on life etc which in turn affects our quality of life and most importantly our happiness.

In this situation, your landlady (regardless of the real intent behind her comments), is not responsible for how you reacted and how you are feeling, only you are responsible for that.

For example: Take two people who had practically identical near death experiences in a plane crash. The experience may be a life changing event in both of their lives. For one of the survivors, they may have a new found appreciation for life, seizing the day, living life to the full, cherishing family and friends, letting go of fears, insecurities. petty hangups etc, and really rejoicing at the gift of life. In contrast, the other survivor may be so traumatised by the event, that they develop post traumatic stress disorder, develop a fear of death (and life), become agoraphobic, fall into depression etc. Both of the people had the same experience, however the impact on each of them was practically polar opposite (but yet both completely understandable).

My sincere advice to you would be to perhaps get involved in meditation, relaxation techniques etc, some sort of counselling to develop your self awareness & deal with some unresolved childhood issues, or maybe try some cognitive behavioural therapy (cbt) to become more aware of your own thought processes and the impact they are having on you.

Take back your power, don't be a victim, appreciate all the blessings in your life and most importantly, DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF.

You are certainly a sensitive soul which can be both a blessing and a curse.

Wishing you well
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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

Nice post, Nastarana, my green rep blob is on its way to you.

There is no point in dismissing someone's feelings only because you know you're "right", I am referring now to what most of people, except some, commented here.
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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

I would like at this point to say that I loath and detest the Daily Mail and all it stands for.

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Re: "Slightly" xenophobic comments from the Swiss people

There are a couple of incorrectly formed quotes in here which I don't have time to correct at the moment and which only confuse matters when others refer to posts written by the 'culprits'. I'm closing this temporarily until I've sorted them.

I think everything has been said really anyway.
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