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i HATE these stupid laundry card systems. why can't i just put a coin in a machine like every other paid laundry i've ever seen in my life?
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Old 02.11.2011, 16:56
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Re: laundry

Because if you have a boxful of coins that is just asking for someone to pry it open with a Swiss Army Knife and nick the money.

The question you should really be asking is:
Why, in a country which is able to create a public transport system that is the envy of the world must I share a washing machine with my cretinous neighbours?

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Old 02.11.2011, 17:40
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i HATE these stupid laundry card systems. why can't i just put a coin in a machine like every other paid laundry i've ever seen in my life?
Don't wish for something you don't understand We have a coin-operated meter in our block and wish I had a card operated one. Ours takes 50rp coins. You need one or two for a wash and millions if you want to use the dryer. I had to go to a bank and buy a "roll" of the bloody things. And I've become expert at not handing any over out of my wallet (I'll remove them later) when paying for stuff.
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Old 03.11.2011, 17:39
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Re: laundry

Ive just switched from a coin operated machine to a card operated machine.

Pros and cons to both, my bigger gripe is the rota system. I live in a block of retired people, I have no qualms with that, I chose the lake and thats what you are going to get. But they allocate me, the 25 year old lad who works everyday......wait for it, FRIDAY, yes FRIDAY.

My old place was a system of, if its not in use, use it and we had a coin machine. But that was frustrating as the washer only took 1's and 20's, and the tumble whatever you wanted. Annoying if you didnt have 1's and 20s and shops are closed.

I prefer the card, the only issue is I have to get it charged by the upstairs neighbour who takes the visit as opportunity to moan at me like a mother would to a ten year old about a number of petty issues, so now I just leave it in her letter box with the cash
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Old 03.11.2011, 17:41
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Isn't it better that you only need to keep a card safe and don't have to fumble around looking for the right coins which, guaranteed, you'll never have on wash-day.

Sometimes the glass IS actually half full but ya just gotta spot it...
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Old 03.11.2011, 17:51
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Re: laundry

I'm with the OP on this one.

While our laundry system generally works well (five suites sharing one, card-operated machine), and people are considerate of one another, I completely do not understand the machine. I just know when it goes "ka-chunk" that everything is good, though it flashes me many random numbers (charges???), during the same wash, and then doesn't refund the leftover change from the amount it took automatically. Plus, the amount it chooses /load does not divide neatly into 50CH, which means I waste a few francs a month since the final amount is not enough for a load, nor does it get added when I re-charge the card.

Oh, and my big beef: I need to call the landlord and arrange a time to meet him to charge my card. Sometimes I have needed to wait three days. Sometimes he just forgets to come. I would rather have a coin machine.

As you can see, the sky is falling. Didn't realize I was so annoyed until I got ranting.
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Ive just switched from a coin operated machine to a card operated machine.

Pros and cons to both, my bigger gripe is the rota system. I live in a block of retired people, I have no qualms with that, I chose the lake and thats what you are going to get. But they allocate me, the 25 year old lad who works everyday......wait for it, FRIDAY, yes FRIDAY.
Ahhhh go ahead. Wash on Sunday. It would be a good chance
to get to know your neighbors.
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I live in a block of retired people, I have no qualms with that, I chose the lake and thats what you are going to get. But they allocate me, the 25 year old lad who works everyday......wait for it, FRIDAY, yes FRIDAY.
So on Fridays get your wash in and then party hard with friends at your place (maybe invest in a subwoofer if you don't have one already); at 10pm pop down and throw the stuff in the dryer and head out for the night. They may just reschedule you .
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Old 03.11.2011, 18:02
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So on Fridays get your wash in and then party hard with friends at your place (maybe invest in a subwoofer if you don't have one already); at 10pm pop down and throw the stuff in the dryer and head out for the night. They may just reschedule you .

This is simply genius!!
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Old 03.11.2011, 18:06
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I'm with the OP on this one.

While our laundry system generally works well (five suites sharing one, card-operated machine), and people are considerate of one another, I completely do not understand the machine. I just know when it goes "ka-chunk" that everything is good, though it flashes me many random numbers (charges???), during the same wash, and then doesn't refund the leftover change from the amount it took automatically. Plus, the amount it chooses /load does not divide neatly into 50CH, which means I waste a few francs a month since the final amount is not enough for a load, nor does it get added when I re-charge the card.

Oh, and my big beef: I need to call the landlord and arrange a time to meet him to charge my card. Sometimes I have needed to wait three days. Sometimes he just forgets to come. I would rather have a coin machine.

As you can see, the sky is falling. Didn't realize I was so annoyed until I got ranting.

Have you been shown how to use the machine properly? It doesnt sound like it.

You should be able to switch most machines to English these days, especially if you have an electronic interface.

As for losing money, be it a couple francs or not, thats not right. My machine takes 3chf immediately upon insert, but a wash costs about 1.30 i think, then after the wash you press a button that looks like to arrows, a bit like this, >>, (well on my one anyway), and it credits back the remaining 1,70. My button is on the actual washing machine where I have to insert the card, but for the dryer its on the card machine which is seperate to the machine itself.
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Old 03.11.2011, 19:07
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Re: laundry

We don't have a tumble drier in our laundry room. The machine takes 20centimes and then you have to hang your clothes on washing lines along with everyone elses..
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I'm thinking of a 'stay in and help JB do his washing before heading out for a night on the tiles' social event. Also considering leasing out my washing machine and tumbler - we can wash any time. Thing is, so can all our neighbours for 500m around so that wouldn't be much use...
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You should be able to switch most machines to English these days, especially if you have an electronic interface.
Your neighbours must love you. Coming down to do their washing and the machine has been switched to into English.
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Re: laundry

As for refunding the money, our machine also charges 3.70chf to start a cycle. Then when the cycle is over you have approx. 5 minutes to get the remaining amount refunded. If you wait more than 5 minutes, the machine automatically shuts off and you lose any refund. In my opinion it is theft. I need to bring it up with our landlord and see if this is a setting in the machine.
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Old 03.11.2011, 22:29
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As for refunding the money, our machine also charges 3.70chf to start a cycle. Then when the cycle is over you have approx. 5 minutes to get the remaining amount refunded. If you wait more than 5 minutes, the machine automatically shuts off and you lose any refund. In my opinion it is theft. I need to bring it up with our landlord and see if this is a setting in the machine.
Our machines also turn off after a couple of minutes but the balance can still be recuperated by pushing the button on the card reader while inserting the card.

That said, I've met more than one person in my building who didn't realize that they could ever get any money back and so were paying 3 chf for each load! The concierge, who just so happens to have the same name as the owners of the building, had never taught them howw to use the card system. Confidence? I think not.
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Old 04.11.2011, 07:55
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Re: laundry

We have the card system in our building, and I actually make a profit! Every time I get a new card I go around all the machines, insert my card and press the refund button. Last time I got almost ten Francs back!
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Old 04.11.2011, 12:40
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Re: laundry

Hmm... Maybe we have different system or I do something wrong. But my machine took 3 CHF only once, and then it somehow remembers how much I spent for the laudry last time and next time takes only this amount from my card to reach the total deposit of 3 CHF before the new laundry. E.g. if last time I washed 35 minutes, next time it takes only 0.70 CHF from my card, if I washed 55 min, it takes 1.10 CHF etc.

I find 1.70 CHF for one wash very expensive. I think I have never spent more than 1.30 CHF for one wash.

In general I find the card system very convenient. It was installed right before we moved to the apartment, and I was happy that I would not have to collect the coins (we pay with credit card wherever possible (i.e. almost everywhere), so it is hard for us to find some cash when needed, especially coins).

I have a small child and so far I used about half of 50 CHF credit in 1.5 months of living here, which means 1 reload per 3 month, which is not so often. I guess my neighbours, which do not have children, spend even less. BTW, the owner of our house lives in the same house and she always warns everybody before their family goes for a long vacation.
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Old 04.11.2011, 12:45
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Your neighbours must love you. Coming down to do their washing and the machine has been switched to into English.

They can turn it back.

None the less, 6 residents in total

4 x british ( 2x English, 1xScottish, and 1xIrish)
1 x Croat married to Swiss
1 x Swiss couple

Seems like English would be the obvious language of choice to me
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