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Old 16.11.2011, 17:00
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So I know you're trolling but you do know the difference lies in the contents of said buggy, don't you?
Spawn, sprog, kid, etc.
well the whole point is that people shouldn't take the buggy and carry their kids.

if they insist on taking a frikkin' huge buggy that is a pain to push around, pain to get on and off trams and a PITA for anyone who has the misfortune of being near it, then they should have the good grace not to whine about the bleedingly obvious hassles associated with using the buggy esp. when they make the decision to take it or not and everybody else pays the price of that decision.

phew. that was good to get off my chest. good thread, OP
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Old 16.11.2011, 17:04
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What I just don't get is why I am being blamed here. Please enlighten me since you have me all figured out. Wow!
I did not blame you for anything. I was not there so don't know what went down. I just spoke of my experiences in general. In your case you could have been an aggressive mum or the other person was a total idiot.

Either way no point stressing over it

Chin up mums and I will help you all with your 4x4s as always but do work on that smile I have to go do something constructive now.
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On a side-note - I have gained a reputation as Mr "Stop the Spawn Crying". It is great fun in a supermarket when a spawn in crying. I get their eye - and then glare at them - in a sort of "I eat babies" way. Fear prevents them crying.
Are you available for home visits? Or could you create an app with the look? There are times that could be very useful to me

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What I just don't get is why I am being blamed here. Please enlighten me since you have me all figured out. Wow!
I don't think anyone is blaming you, per se; however, there are people who will disagree with you. Anytime someone forms an opinion, there's someone else who will disagree; that's just the way it is. The harder you fight back, the harder they will fight back. Best advice is the sandlot advice- ignore them and they'll go away.
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What I just don't get is why I am being blamed here. Please enlighten me since you have me all figured out. Wow!

I don't think you're to blame here, I just think it's interesting that you find this situation new and relevant for a complaint-vent.

There will be times when there isn't room on the tram, there will be times when the people are being jerks and will not kindly move aside. Some people are just jerks, and there will always be 'some people' on public transit.

There are many rants I would like to give out on a daily basis when dealing with strangers on public transit, but I know every morning this might happen and know it is my responsibility to deal with it, when I chose to take public transit.

If the situation was that you were on the tram and it filled up, and people asked you to get off the tram with your buggy so more people could get on....then you have a clear complaint, WTF!!! to share with us. This complaint just rubbed me as a stressed day with some unfortunate encounters.
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well the whole point is that people shouldn't take the buggy and carry their kids.

if they insist on taking a frikkin' huge buggy that is a pain to push around, pain to get on and off trams and a PITA for anyone who has the misfortune of being near it, then they should have the good grace not to whine about the bleedingly obvious hassles associated with using the buggy esp. when they make the decision to take it or not and everybody else pays the price of that decision.

phew. that was good to get off my chest. good thread, OP
I can't physically carry my children. I'm not whining, just stating a fact. I think one important fact has been disregarded in all this. I was physically touched and cursed at! This has never happened to me here. Judging
By the attitude of many of these participants, I can see why. People don't want to be bothered. That is fine with me, but please at least be civil to one another.
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Old 16.11.2011, 17:14
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I am well taken care of on the love front
My friend recently got a dog and it is no different from being chained to a child
I beg to differ

A child screams, cries, need its nappy changing, needs feeding regularly, monitored and needs to be supervised at all times and takes years to grow up

A cute dog, does not cry, does not need changing, needs bathing very now and again, is a lot cheaper and easier to feed, does not need monitoring at all times and grows up within a few months.
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I don't think you're to blame here, I just think it's interesting that you find this situation new and relevant for a complaint-vent.

There will be times when there isn't room on the tram, there will be times when the people are being jerks and will not kindly move aside. Some people are just jerks, and there will always be 'some people' on public transit.

There are many rants I would like to give out on a daily basis when dealing with strangers on public transit, but I know every morning this might happen and know it is my responsibility to deal with it, when I chose to take public transit.

If the situation was that you were on the tram and it filled up, and people asked you to get off the tram with your buggy so more people could get on....then you have a clear complaint, WTF!!! to share with us. This mplaint just rubbed me as a stressed day with some unfortunate encounters.
I'm new here. I guess being pushed and cursed at is ok... Next time, I will wait for something more juicy. I hate these things and the only reason I got on here was to find other people to connect with. I thought I would find some support here, but instead it turned into a rant against moms. I have less faith in humanity than I did yesterday.
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Old 16.11.2011, 17:25
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

I don't really get what the big deal is here anymore?
  • Frustrated mothers
  • SUV sized buggy's
  • insular 'non-breeding'* public transporters (*Thank God)
To me you all sound equally to blame.



Two common points arise from this:
  • People will continue to breed, and mix with the public - Deal with it.
  • Bad behaviour is bad behaviour - both sides. Try to be curteous.
It won't ruin your day to stand in the aile.
You won't break your back if you help a pram onto the tram.
Both mum's and other travellers should be nice and understanding of each other...... it's not called "PUBLIC" transport for nothing.


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Bringing children into public spaces and transit is not a new concept this year or last year or the last few decades.
True, but equally it should come as no surprise to you when a mum is having "a bad day".

Kids are kids, and if some child who is out of control, does it REALLY does bother you ?
(not you Chemmie, just people in general)

It doesn't hurt to be a little more tollerant of people...... if only for the benefit of the young child despite a mothers behaviour (I wouldn't want her job).

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i think that's one of the problem: people thinking their inanimate object (buggy) is more important than people who want to travel.
If it's your means to assist your otherwise difficult day, I guess it's pretty important.

I personally see the baby, not the pram.

I have many more options than they do, so I don't have a problem moving.

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Old 16.11.2011, 17:33
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I'm new here. I guess being pushed and cursed at is ok... Next time, I will wait for something more juicy. I hate these things and the only reason I got on here was to find other people to connect with. I thought I would find some support here, but instead it turned into a rant against moms. I have less faith in humanity than I did yesterday.

Don't get wound up by the mindless few, many are simply bitter that no woman has wanted to have children with them, or they are unable to provide.

It's not common to be pushed and cursed at, sounds like an unfortunate rare event.
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I don't think you're to blame here, I just think it's interesting that you find this situation new and relevant for a complaint-vent.

There will be times when there isn't room on the tram, there will be times when the people are being jerks and will not kindly move aside. Some people are just jerks, and there will always be 'some people' on public transit.
As a regular user of public transport when I had young children, I never ever had any problems with getting babies and carriages on or off.
HOwever, this Monday, I heard of amother and baby boarding the 50 bus ( mid morning, not crowded at all) towards the airport. NOone helped to get the pram (small) onto the bus and the doors began to close before the mother had completed the manouvre, thus having to push the button again, urgently. then a woman decided to move and sit in the folddown seat ( where the pushchair should have gone), leaving the mother standing. Oh, actually that woman pushed as she went past the mother, jossling her so that she lost her balance and the baby got squashed. At the airport end of the trip, there was one upset, hurt baby (yes, there is a bruise) and one crying upset mother.

So if anyone else was on that Monday BA flight to London and wondered why the baby was screaming, that is why!

But many, many thanks to the woman with an American accent, who apparently saw what happened from further up the bus, and asked if she could help. That was amoment of kindness that was very appreciated.
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Old 16.11.2011, 17:46
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

I can see how this thread seems to have shifted to a 'mom' hate thread. (although realistically in this day and age it is a 'parent' hate thread)

Personally I get it from my mom.

She would rage everytime she saw a parent running with a buggy for a bus or tram. This is by no means acceptable. Waiting for the next bus (even for over an hour) was calculated and expected rather than pushing a buggy at highspeeds through traffic. There was always time to be early.

She would rage everytime she heard a parent complaining about not getting sleep. This is standard, this has been happening for centuries.

She would rage whenever she saw a child misbehaving or crying in public. Me and my siblings were seldomly brought out into public (yes I was a brat) and if there was the slightest misbehavent act....we were ushered home in a taxi: because it wasn't fair to the rest of the public to have to deal with her children.

She would rage whenever she heard of a new parent complaining of having no 'me time', having to give up a job or looking for other 'new parents' to socialize with. She made her decision to have children and her only priority with that decision was to be a parent.

She never expected or accepted pity or social-charity. If X billion mothers could have done it in the past with much less technological help and more kids, she can too.

Not saying this is the bottom line of what's right or wrong, but this is just where my opinions stem from. I don't expect anyone to follow them, but they seem logical to me, so I'll throw them out there for anyone who feels they would like to hear some perhaps altering opinions.
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Chemmie - another from the "Children should be seen and not heard" generation.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

My final thoughts:
I came to this forum to meet other English speakers. I was sick in bed today which is the only reason I was able to spend time on here.
This situation bothered me and I wanted to get some perspective. I was not prepared for the trolls I guess.
Do you people really do this every day? I am glad I have children to fill my time, if you would have then perhaps you would not be so miserable.
With that, I think I will leave my mommy complaints for when I meet with other moms.
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? I am glad I have children to fill my time, if you would have then perhaps you would not be so miserable.
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why do you assume they are miserable?
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why do you assume they are miserable?
You've met me and Phil haven't you

Actually "bitter and twisted" would be a better description. I was always going for evil - but lacked commitment to pull it off.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

Wow - this thread was not as exciting as I expected - 12 pages in one day about pushchairs on trams - seriously?! Not entirely clear why I felt the need to read the whole thing from start to end since I neither have kids nor am particularly bother by them (and am also not a troll ).
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Wow - this thread was not as exciting as I expected - 12 pages in one day about pushchairs on trams - seriously?! Not entirely clear why I felt the need to read the whole thing from start to end since I neither have kids nor am particularly bother by them (and am also not a troll ).
Evidently a subject many are passionate about, and you still commented so you must have liked it a little bit
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

I'm due to give birth in a few months. I was scared about giving birth alone in a foreign language and i was scared about attempting breastfeeding in public.

But now i think that these are the least of my worries. Having read through the whole of this thread i am more scared about leaving the bl**dy house with said baby. Wonder where i can purchase one of those tank prams and does it come with mother and baby body armour too?
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My final thoughts:
I came to this forum to meet other English speakers. I was sick in bed today which is the only reason I was able to spend time on here.
This situation bothered me and I wanted to get some perspective. I was not prepared for the trolls I guess.
Do you people really do this every day? I am glad I have children to fill my time, if you would have then perhaps you would not be so miserable.
With that, I think I will leave my mommy complaints for when I meet with other moms.

hehehe, sounds more like you were grumpy, in a bad mood, (perhaps due to sickness) and looking for a little self-comfirmation.

Personally when I have a complaint and post it, I would expect (and encourage!) opposite opinions to perhaps gain some real perspective, and not just brand any opinion I disagree with as trolling. On that note, looking though some of the comments, the main trolling came from posts agreeing with your stance.
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