Im also quite good at the "Last Word" game

are you kidding. the old people are the most viscious. and let's not get started on the idiots who walk along the platform tracking the door (usually the ones who are useless at predicting where the door will end up).

I said this to my child after I was pushed, after I was stared at. I didn't need to know what they said. I was stared down. You are just trying to annoy me.

because it sends the signal that it is ok to bring kids out with you shopping instead of leaving them at home.

Do you think of old people in the same respect? I mean don't they choose to kill themselves before their bodies give out...By your logic, why would I give up my seat on public transport for old people?

It's common courtesy to think about other people. I want my comfort, but giving up my seat or moving to make space is a small sacrifice in the long-run.

exactly... they are wider leaving plenty of room for mum's in their 4X4's that have never even seen the side of a mountain, and there are generally about 10 of these stupidly oversized spots taking up prime parking.

you want to take your sprogs shopping... park at the end.. good exercise for you both.

My dad parks in the parent and child spot when I go shopping with him. I'm nearly 30. Awesome.

Yeah, those damn laws of the land getting in the way of leaving a 2 year old at home on their own while mum goes out for groceries. Interfering buggers...

I think you misquoted, afterall your comment has about as much to do with what I observed as Berlasconis interest in Italian Economic recovery

It's alright Sandgrounder .. the lack of parent and child car parking spaces sends out the signal that its ok to leave your children at home alone, thus overriding federal law.

I suppose children can take care I'm themselves now? You obviously hate children and people who have them.

I bet you are... I'm not. Carry on...

Well it is quite irresponsible.

I rest my case......again

I'm being obtuse.

You think that women change after having a child and somehow garner a sense of self importance or entitlement to special treatment.

Now, tell me if I'm wrong; isn't this something that happens to people of a certain age? Oftentimes the older generation expect people to get out of their seats immediately and on demand.

On the other hand, what is up with people with buggies and absolutely no spatial awareness or common sense? When someone's back is turned to you, they can't guess you are barging in with your mammoth child-mobile the size of a space station. At least indicate your arrival instead of just ramming the damn thing into me. I'm not standing there for fun but because the rest of the tram is full.

I don't really enjoy shopping with my kids. However, sometimes you need to take them along to try on shoes, clothes, whatever. We're usually in and out of there pretty fast only because I would rather be doing anything else than strolling around the shops with bored, cranky kids. If other people choose to do this, that's their business. It doesn't bother me though if kids are out shopping with their parents. I find it much more annoying if the path gets blocked by adults stopping in the middle, chatting and oblivious to everyone else around them.

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no. i just think that people who can't organise their life so that the only possible alternative to taking the children shopping is to leave them at home alone, should not be allowed to have children in the first place.

I know you are, but what am I?

It seems there is quite an anti child brigade on this forum, which i think is sad. It is hard being a parent in todays world and even harder when (in the case of quite a few parents on this forum) you are bringing up a family in a foreign country without the help and support of your family and friends from back home.

Parent and child parking spaces make for an easier life for all - parents can actually get their children in the back of the car and other drivers don't get their doors accidentally banged.

Moving out if the way for a person struggling with a pram is common courtesy, as is giving your seat for a pregnant woman.

We will all be old one day, i for one would like to hope that when i am old common courtesy is still alive and the younger generation will give me a seat on the bus or pass me something from a hard to reach shelf in a shop, just as i would do for the elderly generation now.

Thankfully we are not in an 'everyman for himself' society just yet...