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It seems there is quite an anti child brigade on this forum, which i think is sad. It is hard being a parent in todays world and even harder when (in the case of quite a few parents on this forum) you are bringing up a family in a foreign country without the help and support of your family and friends from back home.

Parent and child parking spaces make for an easier life for all - parents can actually get their children in the back of the car and other drivers don't get their doors accidentally banged.

Moving out if the way for a person struggling with a pram is common courtesy, as is giving your seat for a pregnant woman.

We will all be old one day, i for one would like to hope that when i am old common courtesy is still alive and the younger generation will give me a seat on the bus or pass me something from a hard to reach shelf in a shop, just as i would do for the elderly generation now.

Thankfully we are not in an 'everyman for himself' society just yet...
not really. just bored and trolling.
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Old 16.11.2011, 11:38
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no. i just think that people who can't organise their life so that the only possible alternative to taking the children shopping is to leave them at home alone, should not be allowed to have children in the first place.
I sometimes have to take the kids shopping. Youngest goes in the trolley seat.

Older ones does things like weigh the fruit and re-cycle the PET bottles.

How does this affect you personally?
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not really. just bored and trolling.
I thought you were impotent and jealous
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no. i just think that people who can't organise their life so that the only possible alternative to taking the children shopping is to leave them at home alone, should not be allowed to have children in the first place.
That's "organisation" according to you. I'm fairly organised when I'm out shopping with my son. Got the route/timing down to a fine art; lists, shopping bags at the ready. What's disorganised about all that?

Kids need the experience of shopping, and everything else for that matter. If you don't involve kids in society from the off how are they going to cope when they get older? They know after a while that having a tantrum in a shop is unacceptable at 2 or 3 years old. If you leave them with relatives or carers until they are 16, how's that going to look when they suddenly have a mad tantrum in the biscuit aisle because you won't buy them something.

Did your mum leave you out of shopping trips when you were a nipper?
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

Upgrade your pushchair.

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no. i just think that people who can't organise their life so that the only possible alternative to taking the children shopping is to leave them at home alone, should not be allowed to have children in the first place.
I normally don't, but they needed to try something on or I could have just guessed and made multiple trips.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

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Did your mum leave you out of shopping trips when you were a nipper?
Nope... his dad did.
You may know him as a Grumpy Old Git.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

I don't have children - which is a relief for the rest of society - and I object to the childrification of everything nowadays. Even when out with friends (who have spawned) I get annoyed if their (or any other) spawn acts out in a restaurant.

Anyway - that isn't what this thread is about.

Everyone should be tolerant and considerate of each other. People who don't have to use public transport at peak time - but do - and do so with a pushchair and a pack of screaming spawn should be shot.

And on the flipside - trumped up business-people who are capable of standing in the aisle of a tram but instead block the space for luggage and/or pushchairs should also be shot.

In fact, I'd advocate shooting a lot of people for various different reasons - but I've figured out a good majority of them pay plenty of tax - which means I don't have to.
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Old 16.11.2011, 11:44
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Upgrade your pushchair.

That's how I see today's stroller. NowadayS, They are built for bulk size rather than functionality.
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Old 16.11.2011, 11:46
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Upgrade your pushchair.

That's not too far removed from what I see already.

Without going top far off topic, can anybody explain to me why strollers are the size of an average 4x4 (SUV) these days. When I were a lad being pushed around they were a lot smaller, and, although lacking in suspension, antilock braking etc, they were perfectly fit for purpose, if a bit rough. Moreover you could fit 3 of them into the space one takes up these days.

Just curious.
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Old 16.11.2011, 11:48
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No. But I have experienced the opposite... A women smashing a pram against me knee while I was trying to leave the tram. So, just let leave it like this: prams or no prams, people are equally uncivil when going in and out trams and buses.
Yes... they do tend not to yield to exiting passengers which is bloody annoying.

I like the DC boarding and deboarding method. You wait for the train to arrive. Stand to the side of the doors. Woe to he who standeth before the door, for he shall be flattened.

Exiting passengers get off like a flood, and once the flood has cleared, passengers who waited at the side get on. Works like a dream... unless you're a tourist in which case you just get run over.
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Old 16.11.2011, 11:49
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The young guy who would not get out the way. He said it when I got off, "bye, f*** you".
And then you reply "Yeah you wish!"
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Did your mum leave you out of shopping trips when you were a nipper?
when i was 2, i had to do the family shopping on my own, dragging the bags back home. couldn't afford public transport or a buggy.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

Don't quite understand the question - we went from this, didn't we:

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That's not too far removed from what I see already.

Without going top far off topic, can anybody explain to me why strollers are the size of an average 4x4 (SUV) these days. When I were a lad being pushed around they were a lot smaller, and, although lacking in suspension, antilock braking etc, they were perfectly fit for purpose, if a bit rough. Moreover you could fit 3 of them into the space one takes up these days.

Just curious.
I think there's something going on in the world of prams and strollers. It's almost like having a flash car and showing it off.

My mum swore by a little foldaway Maclaren. Those were the days - it meant (as a kid) you were at the perfect height to reach the biscuits in Tesco.
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Re: People not moving when I try to get on tram with stroller

If you don't take your children shopping with you, they may end up like this.
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That's not too far removed from what I see already.

Without going top far off topic, can anybody explain to me why strollers are the size of an average 4x4 (SUV) these days. When I were a lad being pushed around they were a lot smaller, and, although lacking in suspension, antilock braking etc, they were perfectly fit for purpose, if a bit rough. Moreover you could fit 3 of them into the space one takes up these days.

Just curious.

You could say the same about cars (when I was younger, they weren't the size of SUVs and nor did they have off-road capabilities).

Same with mountain-bikes - they didn't exist either and people still went off-road.

It's only with the invention of new materials and construction techniques that these things are possible.

We have two strollers- a light, small, folding one for town and flights etc and an off-road one for off-road through forests etc.

Same with most people here into bikes. They have a road bike and a mountain bike.
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when i was 2, i had to do the family shopping on my own, dragging the bags back home. couldn't afford public transport or a buggy.
Was that before or after your shift down the coal mine?
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Don't quite understand the question - we went from this, didn't we:

TO THIS



I'm unsure if this is a stroller or A mobile SAM Turret
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It seems there is quite an anti child brigade on this forum, which i think is sad. It is hard being a parent in todays world and even harder when (in the case of quite a few parents on this forum) you are bringing up a family in a foreign country without the help and support of your family and friends from back home.

Parent and child parking spaces make for an easier life for all - parents can actually get their children in the back of the car and other drivers don't get their doors accidentally banged.

Moving out if the way for a person struggling with a pram is common courtesy, as is giving your seat for a pregnant woman.

We will all be old one day, i for one would like to hope that when i am old common courtesy is still alive and the younger generation will give me a seat on the bus or pass me something from a hard to reach shelf in a shop, just as i would do for the elderly generation now.

Thankfully we are not in an 'everyman for himself' society just yet...
Why are you turning this into an anti kids thing?? I was responding to the mothers reaction , not the poor childs, who for the sake of everything didnt get the choice as to where it was at the time because to be sure it preferred the high chair with spag and tomato sauce.
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