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Mmhh I missed MiniMia's floor show but perhaps it was because I was occupied with MasterECB's attempts to feed everything that was not tied down onto the conveyor belt tray clearer thing. "Tunnel" he says, intrigued, whilst manipulating life size model sheep in the direction of the conveyor belt ...

We cried off this evening because I thought I'd know no one and couldn't be bothered to pay for a babysitter just to make small talk .. How Annoying. We will organise ourselves better next year
We still have time. It doesn't start until 6.30pm.

My suggestion: I have an office next to the party. We could lock the kids in there for a few hours, drink a load of wine, forget about them and then tomorrow I'll have a huge surprise when I get to work
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Old 15.12.2011, 19:05
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We still have time. It doesn't start until 6.30pm.

My suggestion: I have an office next to the party. We could lock the kids in there for a few hours, drink a load of wine, forget about them and then tomorrow I'll have a huge surprise when I get to work
Deal.

... taking baked beans off hob and dashing to door with kids and coats in hand ....
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It shows a good will to integrate with the company to actually show up in the big fancy dinner. Not showing up might be interpreted as rude, not really serious on the job, etc.

I made the mistake once of not going to the freaking company Apéro. Didn't end well...
I've edited a bit off the start of your post bevcause I want to answer with general thoughts on the subject, with no intention of it being a personal issues saying whether I think the OP's partner should or should not have gone:

So, thinking about this: Whether it would be my superior, or an underling, I would expect that some personal family occassions would take precendence over a work based social. Trying to think of which, I have come up with wedding anniversary, Partner's birthday, children's birthdays, possibly other important family celebrations or memorial occassions.

If I was in the position where there was a strong expectation ( not just matey peer pressure) that I would be there ( a team leader of some sort) then I would compromise with making an appearance at the work party, then apologise and leave to attend the family commitment.I don't think colleagues can have anything but respect for that.
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Spouses are not invited to hubby's company bash, thank goodness! It would scare the bejeebes out of me. I'm very happy at home with a bottle of wine for company thankyou.
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Old 15.12.2011, 19:35
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Re: Companies Christmas parties

Happy Anniversary, hope you both celebrate it on a weekend.

For someone who has been involved in the organisation of umpteem Christmas parties, let me tell you it can a nightmare to keep everyone happy spouses or no spouses.

Years ago I worked for a small Regional Office of a large organisation, so it was easier to organise the celebration that did include the spouses, but what some of the staff complained was when non staff invited. The reason only came to light when change of boss. The new boss asked the head office what was the budget for the Xmas Party and was told that there was none. You see the previous boss had put it down to entertaining the Other non staff invited.
This new boss wanted to keep costs down, gathered all the staff together and suggested that use be made of the company apartment when it was empty and that the spouses brought plates of food - One chap spoke up that was a definitely NO NO etc etc. In the end it was decided for a couple of staff to negotiate a low rate with a restaurant and then use the company apartment for drinks etc after. As it happened it was a great evening.
On the whole dread Xmas parties, the larger the organisation, the more I dread them. If partners come hardly anyone knows what to say to them. If I bring a partner feel one cannot mix so well. If attend partner's xmas party hardly know anyone. As far as free booze is concerned, if one drinks too much, then there are very few companies now-days pay for you to get home, so extra expense if you do drink too much & have to take a taxi home. Truth be told one should not drink to excess at a company party, everyone is watching.

Let him go and tell him have a great time, then organise your own Anniversary Celebration at home at the weekend, or if you prefer go out. Feel sure he will enjoy your joint celebration more than the Xmas party.
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I've edited a bit off the start of your post bevcause I want to answer with general thoughts on the subject, with no intention of it being a personal issues saying whether I think the OP's partner should or should not have gone:
Oh don't take me wrong. I wasn't attacking you I think a wedding anniversary is actually way more important than a company dinner. I was just sharing that some companies do really think it's more important to go to a company dinner than your own personal celebrations.

I was actually quite schocked when I was called into my boss office the following week of missing a company Apéro (because of father-in-law birthday), being chastised that I am not integrating well in the company, that I am not taking my job seriously, that I am isolating myself, etc.

Because I missed the Apéro. I kid you not.

I'm happy I'm out of that freaking company. Same boss made a scene because when my husband came to pick me up one day, he waited outside the office for me to go out, instead of me picking him up and parading him in the office, presenting him to the whole company.

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Old 15.12.2011, 19:59
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The CEO also makes a point to thank all the spouses at their yearly Xmas do. Really fantastic.
My wife's former boss (he also was the "group head of equality and diversity" at that time) thanked the "wives" of his executives, quite a few of whom were female (and had male partners/spouses).
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I was actually quite schocked when I was called into my boss office the following week of missing a company Apéro (because of father-in-law birthday), being chastised that I am not integrating well in the company, that I am not taking my job seriously, that I am isolating myself, etc. Because I missed the Apéro. I kid you not.
Ya I get those reactions as well. A lot.

Bottom line is... I have a life outside of work and I don't have to justify why I'm skipping those work-related social musings. There doesn't have to be anything special going on. I always think it's hillarious that the people with no responsibilities think nothing of working a 9 hour day and then go out and socialize for 4 more. So why shouldn't everyone else be able to do it? Kids? spouse? pets? Bahhhh! They don't need you more than the company does!

And I've mentioned this before. Alcohol. Whenever there's something work related + alcohol... I find it extremely (1) unprofessional and (2) discomforting. So any boss or colleague who thinks everyone should oblige themselves to attend these functions needs to just....


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Old 15.12.2011, 20:31
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Re: Companies Christmas parties

Well, we got married on the 15th of December but did our big celebration with family and friends on the 20th as well in a different country. So he can catch up for tonight!

I am now glad I didn't go. Apparently it is a mix of Christmas celebration and team workshop. So guess what? They are going to have a 2 hours slide show presentation in Spanish!!!

Lol

I have some wine, chips and a good movie. He is jealous!

We will have a great celebration on Saturday. No kids (found a babysitter).
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Hurray - so happy to see you are feeling a bit more cheerful - cheers. Enjoy your special night out on Saturday
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Thanks everyone for your best wishes! I love my husband even more then 4 years ago! I am truly lucky to have such a thoughtful husband who takes such a great care of us and work really hard for his family. He is a wonderful husband and father.

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I found out by accident yesterday afternoon that the company party was yesterday evening...which my husband hadn't mentioned. When I asked him about it he said it required 'dressing up' which....given my life as a hausfrau these days doesn't lead me to dress up very often, I was a bit disappointed that I wasn't given the option to choose whether or not to go....usually I avoid parties, but considering I live in a vacuum I might have just enjoyed the excuse to cheer myself up and see the city after dark. Of course, tonight they have a group party (which he tells me about today in addition to telling me about his bonus and his raise that santa brought while I'm thinking, wtf, it's good to be a man once you move a career woman to the 1950s...)....can't win.
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Re: Companies Christmas parties

The silver lining in the economic downturn is that OH's company has stopped doing the big Christmas shindig.

These events were mandatory for the employee (although no one would actually say so), and if the spouse chose not to attend it apparently reflected badly. (Which, as a non-employee with a life and career of my own, failed to put me in the holiday spirit.)

Don't let the glamourous venue*, the flowing champagne, the divine food and music fool you - this was work, pure and simple.

Nowadays, I believe it's beer and pizza in the office cafeteria. Employees only.



* Speaking of glamourous venues... I recall one Swiss party where the invitation directed us to a very nice hotel in a well-known mountain resort - only to find that the event was not dinner and dancing, but rather abseiling down the hotel facade. As you can imagine, my evening apparel wasn't quite right for the occasion...
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Could be worst, at least the company didn't http://articles.businessinsider.com/...utes-incentivepre-paid prostitutes as a gift for employees.
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Before to move to Switzerland, I was used to have companies Christmas parties where we were going accompanied by our partner. I found it very strange to not be invited in Switzerland. I don't know if it is a Switzerland, European thing or companies policies. Well, must be a mixed of all of them since here too it is the same policies.

Anyway, today is our 4th wedding anniversary and hubby will be at that stupid Christmas party where he have to go. No show up is a big no no.
I should be the one getting a party for supporting his work, his long hours outside of home, his trips, etc..... and it is open bar!!!! I could use of that too!

Rant over

What are your experience of Christmas parties in CH? Is is the same for you?
Most corporate Christmas parties I have been to with a free bar tend to be adult only affairs, bringing a +1 takes away the fun !
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I am curious as to why anyone "has" to go to a work based Xmas party. I can't think of anyones position in any company, that is so important that one has to miss one's own wedding anniversary - whether the junior clerk, the Chief shareholder or anyone in between.
Actually, I do believe that there are certain people who should make the effort to go to a Christmas party even if it’s not really their cup of tea – team leaders, managers and other senior leaders should all make the effort to attend, if only to thank their teams in person for the hard work that they’ve done.

I’ve been to some good Christmas parties and some bad Christmas parties, and given the choice I would rather be curled up in front of the fireplace at home. I get on alright with most of my colleagues, but the ones I like enough to see socially, I see socially – and for me, a party is a ‘no work conversation’ event, regardless of whether spouses are included or not.

I’ve worked in a number of countries, but the UK was where I saw most of my +1 invitations. Working in large corporations, the parties tended to be generous and spouses invited, the booze flowed freely, and most people respected the ‘no work conversation’ rules. I enjoyed getting to know the personal side of my team members and learning a little more about what they were like as people outside the office. But in these sorts of parties, there was never pressure on anyone to attend or to bring their spouse, so it was up to each individual to decide whether to come or not, and whether to come alone or together.

In Switzerland, the parties are typically without spouses, which in my mind is a little bit of a shame. I see the same group of people all the time – and let’s be honest, I talk about them with my wife at home. She talks to me about her colleagues as well. At a certain point, it’s nice to know who’s who so you can keep up with all the gossip!
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I wouldn't be interested in going to a boyfriend's/spouse's company Xmas party. If my company invites me to such parties, I'd rather go alone.
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Congratulations Nil and Mr Nil Have a great night on Saturday

Sadly I missed my work party as I was away, but partners were not invited.

My OH is between jobs at the mo and I was surprised to be invited to both his old firm's party (fun, themed, alcohol-fueled dinner and dancing event with plenty of people I know) and also his new firm's party (which is this Saturday....watch this space, but I expect it will be fun, non-themed, alcohol fuelled event with no-one I know so I will need to behave!).

For context I work for a large multi-national (and in the UK I worked for the same company and also no partners for most events), his old firm is a smallish Swiss/German firm and his new firm is a large multi-national. Seems no clear rules

When partners were invited in the UK it was usually the firm's apology for making their lives so difficult with partners being away all the time.
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Could be worst, at least the company didn't http://articles.businessinsider.com/...utes-incentivepre-paid prostitutes as a gift for employees.
Went om an incentive trip around 20 years ago which was a cruise in the Med. The lower deck rooms were well stocked with ladies but not pre-paid.

The organiser later claimed he knew nothing before hand of this arrangement; he simply booked the boat because their offer was significantly cheaper than the others.
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Oh don't take me wrong. I wasn't attacking you I think a wedding anniversary is actually way more important than a company dinner. I was just sharing that some companies do really think it's more important to go to a company dinner than your own personal celebrations.

I was actually quite schocked when I was called into my boss office the following week of missing a company Apéro (because of father-in-law birthday), being chastised that I am not integrating well in the company, that I am not taking my job seriously, that I am isolating myself, etc.

Because I missed the Apéro. I kid you not.

I'm happy I'm out of that freaking company. Same boss made a scene because when my husband came to pick me up one day, he waited outside the office for me to go out, instead of me picking him up and parading him in the office, presenting him to the whole company.

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About "I was actually quite schocked when I was called into my boss office the following week of missing a company Apéro"

Happened to me a couple of times in various companies; my response was I would like to discuss this together with you and the appropriate HR person so I am clear on the rules.
Funny it went quite quiet after that.
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