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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-epidemic.html

the 25% adult figure mentioned in this piece is within the margin of error of the adult obesity figure frequently quoted for gringos.



fyi, not everybody in the States looks like the characters in Roseanne or King of Queens. you do realize those are television shows, oder?
Ahem - http://ezinearticles.com/?Obesity-in-America&id=4921619

Having been unfortunately put through the pain of american 'comedy' I can say I have seen these shows and am pretty sure they are pretty indicative of the average amaerican shape.
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Ahem - http://ezinearticles.com/?Obesity-in-America&id=4921619

Having been unfortunately put through the pain of american 'comedy' I can say I have seen these shows and am pretty sure they are pretty indicative of the average amaerican shape.
Oh and 61% obese beats 25% obese - petty but fact
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Re: US / UK nicht!!!

Some fascinating stats there-no doubt about it.

It would be interesting to correlate those stats with education or class.

There's definitely more fat people in North America, but in my personal experiences, I don't really know any fat people---but perhaps some would fall under the BMI obesity characteristics. Either way, sport, fitness and activity are all very commonly followed by all who I associated with, but most blame their size on genetics and body type rather than energy mass balance--which I do agree with.
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Ahem - http://ezinearticles.com/?Obesity-in-America&id=4921619

Having been unfortunately put through the pain of american 'comedy' I can say I have seen these shows and am pretty sure they are pretty indicative of the average amaerican shape.
Who is "Marcela Rodriguez" and what makes her "ezine" article more accurate than a (however dubious one may find it) newspaper article? She even cites herself as her own (and from what I can tell, "only") source.


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Some fascinating stats there-no doubt about it.

It would be interesting to correlate those stats with education or class.

There's definitely more fat people in North America, but in my personal experiences, I don't really know any fat people---but perhaps some would fall under the BMI obesity characteristics. Either way, sport, fitness and activity are all very commonly followed by all who I associated with, but most blame their size on genetics and body type rather than energy mass balance--which I do agree with.
That's okay Chemmie, I've got you covered - I know enough for both of us (and a few more besides).


Looking at my family, I'll go with the idea that it's a combination of things that "allows" for a greater or lesser degree of risk for obesity genetically. One of my aunties is very athletic, with a strong (stocky) build. Due to her activity level, she is not fat, but if checking weight against a table of "acceptable height weight ratio" as it used to be (and some places still is), she'd probably show as being overweight. Thankfully BMI is taken more into acct these days though, she probably gets a lot less harassment from doctors than she used to.

Me, with the same basic build, I used to be similarly stocky, up until I stopped doing any athletic activity. These days I'm right properly "obese"... hopefully I'll find the motivation one day to get back to wearing a size 12 (aka 42), which is the size I wore when I was bicycling and swimming daily.



Meanwhile, I have friends who, doing less activity than myself have always been thin. Metabolism accounts for that, I have a very hard time believing that metabolism is NOT tied in some big way to genetics, even while being influenced somewhat by ratio of muscle to fat.

Finally - I simply love how so many threads that have Americans as a subject matter somehow turn to how fat we all are. Sure I'm fat but tbh, even though I have plenty of fat friends, I have plenty of skinny ones too - including ones that if they were dogs, they'd be removed from their home for being malnourished.
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Ahem - http://ezinearticles.com/?Obesity-in-America&id=4921619

Having been unfortunately put through the pain of american 'comedy' I can say I have seen these shows and am pretty sure they are pretty indicative of the average amaerican shape.
seriously, you linked an "ezine" article???



here is a link to the CDC statistics.

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.HTML
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Oh and 61% obese beats 25% obese - petty but fact
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At least we Brits only have to buy one seat on an aircraft when travelling, you might well have basketball, 'football' and baseball, but from what I have seen there is little evidence of the majority of our American cousins playing them...unless eating counts as a sport in which case, hands up you are much better at it...
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Old 15.02.2012, 18:33
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That's okay Chemmie, I've got you covered - I know enough for both of us (and a few more besides).


Looking at my family, I'll go with the idea that it's a combination of things that "allows" for a greater or lesser degree of risk for obesity genetically. One of my aunties is very athletic, with a strong (stocky) build. Due to her activity level, she is not fat, but if checking weight against a table of "acceptable height weight ratio" as it used to be (and some places still is), she'd probably show as being overweight. Thankfully BMI is taken more into acct these days though, she probably gets a lot less harassment from doctors than she used to.

Me, with the same basic build, I used to be similarly stocky, up until I stopped doing any athletic activity. These days I'm right properly "obese"... hopefully I'll find the motivation one day to get back to wearing a size 12 (aka 42), which is the size I wore when I was bicycling and swimming daily.



Meanwhile, I have friends who, doing less activity than myself have always been thin. Metabolism accounts for that, I have a very hard time believing that metabolism is NOT tied in some big way to genetics, even while being influenced somewhat by ratio of muscle to fat.

Finally - I simply love how so many threads that have Americans as a subject matter somehow turn to how fat we all are. Sure I'm fat but tbh, even though I have plenty of fat friends, I have plenty of skinny ones too - including ones that if they were dogs, they'd be removed from their home for being malnourished.
hahaha---well I assume everyone I talk to online are actually 45 year old single men in their parents basement :P

but truthfully speaking, obesity definitely runs in the family, I'm just the one who's hideously skinny (even for swiss standards).

as per comparing US/UK would never judge someone due to their physical appearance, that can change. But I would judge someone on their intelligence, education and actions---can speak quite a bit of the person and what they are potentially capable of!
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Re: US / UK nicht!!!

Hmmm...touchy...

Anyway, when the wife of the President has to go on national television to teach people how to do a push-up and beg people to eat vegetables you know you have a problem...

Well it has been fun being provocative, and this has been a long thread of generalisations from both sides...

Enjoy a pancake or ten with syrup this morning for me...
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Old 16.02.2012, 11:17
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Hmmm...touchy...
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and don't forget to get your pasta crop in before the rain.
( falling on the American side this a.m.)

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Ahem - http://ezinearticles.com/?Obesity-in-America&id=4921619

Having been unfortunately put through the pain of american 'comedy' I can say I have seen these shows and am pretty sure they are pretty indicative of the average amaerican shape.
The actors and actresses of Desperate Housewives aren't indicative of anything real in America, but the shapes of Hollywood stardom.
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Old 16.02.2012, 11:48
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Re: US / UK nicht!!!

Have a read :

http://www.expatify.com/news/the-wor...countries.html

I am a Brit, but as you see, Britain is on the list, and so I won't be defending my country here. What's the point
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Finally - I simply love how so many threads that have Americans as a subject matter somehow turn to how fat we all are. Sure I'm fat but tbh, even though I have plenty of fat friends, I have plenty of skinny ones too - including ones that if they were dogs, they'd be removed from their home for being malnourished.
Really. Body weight is indicative of pretty much one thing consistently... Body weight. Oh, and I suppose free reign to point and snark.

But body weight is not a good measure of health. It's obvious, easy to use and it comes up invariably in discussions about the US.
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Its good to be territorial, nothing wrong with America in my book, for example where would we be without elasticated waistbands...

I have to say for this whole Britain / America fat thing, Americans are generally more chunky than us brits, however apparently we have the worlds fattest man so its a weigh up really.

I was in NY 2 weeks ago and ate a disgusting breakfast myself, I can only describe it as a hollowed out donut, filled with cheesecake and topped with icecream and orange drizzle, I ate it to see if I could and failed halfway through, fair play to our friends across the water they can sure put it away...
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Really. Body weight is indicative of pretty much one thing consistently... Body weight. Oh, and I suppose free reign to point and snark.

But body weight is not a good measure of health. It's obvious, easy to use and it comes up invariably in discussions about the US.
I think these standards of obesity are typically based on BMI.

I hate BMI. According to BMI, I have been borderline obese for pretty much my entire adult life.
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may as well get going on this one

"we (USA) won the war"

As an American I've been bought a few pints as thank-you's from old gents in pubs for "your boys lending a hand back then" but as for America winning the war I'm sure that would come as great surprise to my dad (RIP) who built Lancaster bombers in Canada.
and my father in law (RIP) who flew them.


NEXT.
Respect.
We saw a TV programme the other day with Ewan McGregor and his brother Colin, a pilot, called 'Bomber Boys', where they flew in a Lancaster bomber. It really did make you realise what the young men in Bomber Command went through in WW2.

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But body weight is not a good measure of health. It's obvious, easy to use and it comes up invariably in discussions about the US.
Maybe. But America is one of the world's fattest nations - so is Britain.
Ethiopia is not on the list, strangely enough ..
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Its good to be territorial, nothing wrong with America in my book, for example where would we be without elasticated waistbands...

I have to say for this whole Britain / America fat thing, Americans are generally more chunky than us brits, however apparently we have the worlds fattest man so its a weigh up really.

I was in NY 2 weeks ago and ate a disgusting breakfast myself, I can only describe it as a hollowed out donut, filled with cheesecake and topped with icecream and orange drizzle, I ate it to see if I could and failed halfway through, fair play to our friends across the water they can sure put it away...
that donut is only a side dish to breakfast in NY, which should have included eggs, bacon, sausage (with gravy) and hash browns, too.
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sausage with gravy? ... in NY?... you must be from Western NY.
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that donut is only a side dish to breakfast in NY, which should have included eggs, bacon, sausage (with gravy) and hash browns, too.
Nah, lox and eggs with a bagel or some decent rye bread.
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