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Old 16.02.2012, 12:57
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This is Crazy Stuff!!!! ( CH produce cheaper abroad )

My mom calls me two nights ago and asks about a fondue mix that is sold at her local grocery store in the US. She tells me it's Gerber and is in a red box. She also said that it was directly imported from Switzerland because she looks for that stuff. She bought it for USD $6.99 for the box with two portions. She took a photo of it and emailed it to me. Damn if it isn't the EXACT same product that I just spent 13.90 CHF at Coop for. HOW THE F%$% does that happen? How can you export a product overseas, to another continent and have it cheaper than the place it came from? I feel as if I should buy a bunch on fondue mix when I go back to the US and BRING IT TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER. WTF!!!!!!!!!
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:02
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My mom calls me two nights ago and asks about a fondue mix that is sold at her local grocery store in the US. She tells me it's Gerber and is in a red box. She also said that it was directly imported from Switzerland because she looks for that stuff. She bought it for USD $6.99 for the box with two portions. She took a photo of it and emailed it to me. Damn if it isn't the EXACT same product that I just spent 13.90 CHF at Coop for. HOW THE F%$% does that happen? How can you export a product overseas, to another continent and have it cheaper than the place it came from? I feel as if I should buy a bunch on fondue mix when I go back to the US and BRING IT TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER. WTF!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the global world. Emmentaler, Toblerone, fondue and many other products are cheaper in the US.

Why?
- subsidies
- fixed expenses
- 4 weeks vacation vs. 2 weeks vacation
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My mom calls me two nights ago and asks about a fondue mix that is sold at her local grocery store in the US. She tells me it's Gerber and is in a red box. She also said that it was directly imported from Switzerland because she looks for that stuff. She bought it for USD $6.99 for the box with two portions. She took a photo of it and emailed it to me. Damn if it isn't the EXACT same product that I just spent 13.90 CHF at Coop for. HOW THE F%$% does that happen? How can you export a product overseas, to another continent and have it cheaper than the place it came from? I feel as if I should buy a bunch on fondue mix when I go back to the US and BRING IT TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER. WTF!!!!!!!!!

There is a fine for the following culinary misdemeanor: buying gerber fondue.
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:10
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My mom calls me two nights ago and asks about a fondue mix that is sold at her local grocery store in the US. She tells me it's Gerber and is in a red box. She also said that it was directly imported from Switzerland because she looks for that stuff. She bought it for USD $6.99 for the box with two portions. She took a photo of it and emailed it to me. Damn if it isn't the EXACT same product that I just spent 13.90 CHF at Coop for. HOW THE F%$% does that happen? How can you export a product overseas, to another continent and have it cheaper than the place it came from? I feel as if I should buy a bunch on fondue mix when I go back to the US and BRING IT TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER. WTF!!!!!!!!!
Ever heard of economies of scale?
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But that is not a real problem. The problem starts when vegetables from southern spain are sold f.e. in Ghana and other African countries for less then the local farmers. This way these farmers have no income and are forced to go to Europe and work in the south of spain at vegetable "farms" for almost nothing.

That's the crazy stuff!
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There is a fine for the following culinary misdemeanor: buying gerber fondue.
Never understood why people in this country are buying this crap. It's incredibly easy to make a fondue from scratch.
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:26
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Re: This is Crazy Stuff!!!!

Well, I would imagine that the overall cost of doing business is higher here than in the US.

For example a quick google would indicate that a Swiss shop worker earns around twice that of their US counterpart. There's probably a whole host of other things that need to be paid for in the process of doing business that cost more here than in the US and this money needs to come from somewhere. hence the higher prices of the goods on sale here.

Then there's also economies of scale which really do kick in in the US.

I don't like it, and I don't agree with either, but these are the most logical reasons I can think of, apart from sheer profiteering by Swiss shops.
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:41
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Re: This is Crazy Stuff!!!!

Are you sure it was the 800 g pack she bought? They sell 400 g packs on export. Box same size but half as thick. You wouldn't see that in a picture.



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My mom calls me two nights ago and asks about a fondue mix that is sold at her local grocery store in the US. She tells me it's Gerber and is in a red box. She also said that it was directly imported from Switzerland because she looks for that stuff. She bought it for USD $6.99 for the box with two portions. She took a photo of it and emailed it to me. Damn if it isn't the EXACT same product that I just spent 13.90 CHF at Coop for. HOW THE F%$% does that happen? How can you export a product overseas, to another continent and have it cheaper than the place it came from? I feel as if I should buy a bunch on fondue mix when I go back to the US and BRING IT TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER. WTF!!!!!!!!!
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:48
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Well, I would imagine that the overall cost of doing business is higher here than in the US.

For example a quick google would indicate that a Swiss shop worker earns around twice that of their US counterpart. There's probably a whole host of other things that need to be paid for in the process of doing business that cost more here than in the US and this money needs to come from somewhere. hence the higher prices of the goods on sale here.

Then there's also economies of scale which really do kick in in the US.

I don't like it, and I don't agree with either, but these are the most logical reasons I can think of, apart from sheer profiteering by Swiss shops.
Well said and exactly right. The margins the grocery chains work on in the US are slim, less than 1% net after all costs, their profitability is on volume turnover.

Outside of union shops the store workers generally make less than in CH, the cost of land and building are a lot less than in CH, the cost of warehousing and distribution are less, the list goes on.

Bottom line it grocery chains in the US add on much lower fixed and variable overhead costs, and as the US market is drastically more competitive than here a lower profit margin and you get lower prices on the same goods.

Regarding Swiss profiteering. When you have a market mostly closed to any serious competition + shorter working hours meaning less available time for consumers to spend = The profits have to come from their markups
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Old 16.02.2012, 13:49
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Yeah I buy Australian wines cheaper here than what I pay back home....
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Are you sure it was the 800 g pack she bought? They sell 400 g packs on export. Box same size but half as thick. You wouldn't see that in a picture.
That would be the most logical explanation although all sorts of odd price difference pop up on exported products all over the world, even here. I sell one cheese in central Zurich which is a couple of percent cheaper from me than buying from the farms own on-line shop in sleepy Somerset. Sometimes there is just no logic in it at all.
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Regarding Swiss profiteering. When you have a market mostly closed to any serious competition + shorter working hours meaning less available time for consumers to spend = The profits have to come from their markups
Sounds like another arguement to keep stores open later than 18:30 and on Sundays.
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But that is not a real problem. The problem starts when vegetables from southern spain are sold f.e. in Ghana and other African countries for less then the local farmers. This way these farmers have no income and are forced to go to Europe and work in the south of spain at vegetable "farms" for almost nothing.

That's the crazy stuff!
Not to metion the countless lives lost trying to immigrate to Europe in those shabby boats. Its beyond crazy..its a tragedy.
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Never understood why people in this country are buying this crap. It's incredibly easy to make a fondue from scratch.
Yes, but when it's on sale I'll pick some up as reserve food, as it doesn't need refrigeration. Add some extra cheese and it's great!

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Yes, but when it's on sale I'll pick some up as reserve food, as it doesn't need refrigeration. Add some extra cheese and it's great!

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I'd say add some extra Kirsch. Or just drink the Kirsch while throwing the Fondue in the bin.
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There is a fine for the following culinary misdemeanor: buying gerber fondue.
And buying "Gerber" products altogether, which incidentally -and this is certainly not a coincidence- means "to throw up" in French.
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I'd say add some extra Kirsch. Or just drink the Kirsch while throwing the Fondue in the bin.
Tried that - the bin threw it back out again.
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The answer is obvious. Next time you fancy some Gerber Fondue just fly over to buy it and it will save you a fortune

A lot of products around the world are sold cheaper abroad to promote it. Something to do with exchange rates too.

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Re: This is Crazy Stuff!!!! ( CH produce cheaper abroad )

When I am craving cheese fondue, I buy the Gerber because I am the only one who eats it anyway. And it was cheaper in Istanbul, Canada, USA and Spain.

But nothing beat the real thing in CH.
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Well, I would imagine that the overall cost of doing business is higher here than in the US.

For example a quick google would indicate that a Swiss shop worker earns around twice that of their US counterpart. There's probably a whole host of other things that need to be paid for in the process of doing business that cost more here than in the US and this money needs to come from somewhere. hence the higher prices of the goods on sale here.

Then there's also economies of scale which really do kick in in the US.

I don't like it, and I don't agree with either, but these are the most logical reasons I can think of, apart from sheer profiteering by Swiss shops.
Would you say that a Swissy shop worker earns twice as much because things are twice as expensive or are things twice as expensive because people earn twice as much?
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