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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

Thank you for posting, a reminder that Switzerland is not as safe as we are led to believe.
I had a visitor who had their purse stolen in Zug just before Christmas and it was no surprise to the Migros staff or the local police. The police were of course very efficient at making their report but their policy is not to give you a copy of the report but only direct to the insurance company if they request it. 3 months later my visitor's insurance company refuse to compensate as we couldn't give them the report and they refuse to request it.
My bag is now always worn across my body and I am far more careful then before.
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My girl friend is 65 years old and though alive and fit, she does not qualify for a 100 meter sprint against a younger person full with adrenalin.
I'm glad your girlfriend is alive! (sorry couldn't resist)

Seriously, I too would have done the same (bag on chair) - and have done far far worse. After more than 5 years living in CH, my guard (acquired through more than a decade of living in central London) has been well and truly dropped. I practically never put my bag across me, often put my purse in my coat pocket, and frequently wear a backpack with my things in the outside pocket.

Yes, Adrianlondon has made me think about what I do with my receipts of purchase when I buy things, and you have made me think about reviving some of that "savvy in my twenties personal safety stuff" I learnt in London.

Thanks for the reminder and hope your girlfriend enjoys picking out a new bag.
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Old 25.02.2012, 16:34
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

There was a post above about getting a police report. They said the same to me - they won't issue a report but the insurance company knows just to ring them up and the police seem happy to give out details. I guess anyone could pretend to be an insurance company, but that's another issue.

However, the police did say that if I had problems with that to give them a call. I'm sure if I was claiming against a foreign insurance company (I'm not) then something would get worked out. A crime reference number is probably all that's needed.

As for security ... I still have my "big city" street smarts and when I moved in I commented (to myself and some others) how totally crap the doors are here. However, I didn't do anything about it as I didn't really have anything worth stealing. I guess some kind of portable alarm to place in the entrance. However, unless you spend real money, I don't see that any alarm would work after being smashed around a bit with a crowbar anyway.

Other option is just to hide stuff or buy a safe. A safe could be a good idea. Unlikely the thieves would actually carry it away. Although I'm the sort of person who'd buy a safe and leave it empty, as a decoy. Except I didn't. Because this is Switzerland.
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Being a man I asked the wrong question, "Why do you need to put your bag down when you are looking at shoes?"

Bags + shoes + females: an unexplainable dependence, it blurs their minds, like being on drugs.
Bag down when trying on shoes yes, bag down when looking? No. I guess I've lived too many places where such things were risky (and don't spend that much time shopping here) that I've not dropped my guard.

What I HAVE done though since coming here is to carry a purse much less often. I have a change purse that goes in the bottom of my bag if I'm going shopping (so carrying a bag with more bags inside) or if not shopping, I take as many coins as I may need for transport and tuck my big cash in a pocket that's harder to get to. I think this is a time when being fat plays in my favor, it's not so easy to get down to the bottom of my pockets without me noticing.
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

Urgh! That sucks. Sorry that she had it nicked. I always have to remind myself about these types of things, because I always put my bag down places, and walk around with it open reeeeally shouldn't! You always consider switzerland to be a safe relatively crime free country, but it still goes on..... thanks for the reminder. Do you mind me asking as well what shop it was? Sorry if you already said it, I missed it!
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

hi Loobie, it was in the Solothurn high street shop, next door to "Roter Turm" restaurant / hotel.

http://map.search.ch/solothurn/hauptgasse-40

(I didn't want to write the shop's name, as they weren't really to blame).

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There were no strange looking people in the shop.
I imagine that very few successful thieves "look strange."

In Switzerland, I once accidently dropped my wallet in a Migros. Someone picked it up and handed it back to me before I had noticed it missing.

In Romania, I twice accidently handed over much, much too much money to pay for some fruit ( during a revaluing period when there were both old and new notes in circulation) The stall keeper laughed as he pointed out my mistake as he cheerfully gave me back all the money.

In NZ, I once left a wallet in a telephone booth. It was handed in to the police station with all the money still in it.

These are the things I like to keep in mind - the fact that most are honest and helpful.

On the other hand, in all those cases, I would only have had myself to blame if I had lost my things permanently, as would be the case if I was silly enough to leave a bag on a shop seat, whilst browsing, no matter which country I was in.
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

For all of the people in this thread that have recommended CCTV -- it hasn't worked to bring down crime rates in London, which is one of the world's most monitored cities:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/06/ukcrime1

Putting cameras in the shops of Switzerland isn't going to fix the problem, only vigilance and communities working together will.

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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

So sorry to hear of your friends trouble. Such a hassle to replace everything and a harsh reminder not to be so trusting.

My mother-in-law reminded me once "don't make a thief" when we were at the swimming pool and I had my locker key pinned to the outside of my beach bag (with the locker number on the key tag). The temptation may be too great for someone to pass up.
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

To recapitulate, her money purse containing money and cards was inside her long-strapped-across-the heart-zipped-up-shoulder-bag.

This closed bag was placed on a chair at the back of a shop, covered with a coat.

She was standing nearby, and "kept an eye on it" (Obviously not long enough) and she is very surprised the thief was quick enough to open the bag and take out the small purse, and get away, without her seeing anything.

She didn't leave it in a phone box, she covered it, inside the shop, on a chair, at the back of a shoe shop. She must have been followed. She was dressed smartly, which she regrets, as she was returning from a business meeting.
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I imagine that very few successful thieves "look strange."

In Switzerland, I once accidently dropped my wallet in a Migros. Someone picked it up and handed it back to me before I had noticed it missing.

In Romania, I twice accidently handed over much, much too much money to pay for some fruit ( during a revaluing period when there were both old and new notes in circulation) The stall keeper laughed as he pointed out my mistake as he cheerfully gave me back all the money.

In NZ, I once left a wallet in a telephone booth. It was handed in to the police station with all the money still in it.

These are the things I like to keep in mind - the fact that most are honest and helpful.

On the other hand, in all those cases, I would only have had myself to blame if I had lost my things permanently, as would be the case if I was silly enough to leave a bag on a shop seat, whilst browsing, no matter which country I was in.

I once left my wallet on the back seat of a taxi in Australia. I called the company, and the taxi driver delivered it back to me with all the money in it, and didn't even charge the fare...

Also fell out of my pocket on the bus once, and the bus driver found it, happened to have my number in the wallet, and called me, asking me to come pick it up... All my money still in it... Most of the time people are honest, only sometimes not so...
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

That CCTV-thing that some propose: it's useless.
Most of those thieves have a criminal record and they don't intend to run for a political office in Switzerland anyway.
If they get filmed? So what?

But I really never understand why women need purses in waitress' size and handbags so large that they are a burden to carry.

I've once seen a thief steal a waitress-purse out of a car and it went as quick as throwing a can of coke into the trash.
He was a druggy and the police were later able to recover the money (he had it hidden somewhere, so it couldn't be found on him).

I've always fantasized about dye-bombs for these cases...
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Girl friend put her handbag down on a chair, inside a shoe shop, with her coat laid over it. "She kept her eye on it". Suddenly she saw the handbag was uncovered, open, and the money purse was missing.

She spent an hour at the police station cancelling cards etc. Total loss about CHF 100. Driving licence, Swiss ID and cancelled cards might turn up in a trash bin later.

The point is the thief was very quick, and the bag was hidden, but of course the thief might have observed her hiding the bag. Shoe shop lady showed her the large warning sign on the door, and said this happens nearly every day. There were no strange looking people in the shop.
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Re: Purse snatched inside Solothurn shop

Iphone snatched at the steps going up to the Einsiedeln church. Heathen bashturds. May they burn in hell.

Isn't there an app that makes your iphone explode when found in the wrong hands?

PS: It wasn't my iphone, thank God.
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There are a few Eastern European witches specialized in Iphone theft that I can recommend!


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Iphone snatched at the steps going up to the Einsiedeln church. Heathen bashturds. May they burn in hell.

Isn't there an app that makes your iphone explode when found in the wrong hands?

PS: It wasn't my iphone, thank God.
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To recapitulate, her money purse containing money and cards was inside her long-strapped-across-the heart-zipped-up-shoulder-bag.

This closed bag was placed on a chair at the back of a shop, covered with a coat.

She was standing nearby, and "kept an eye on it" (Obviously not long enough) and she is very surprised the thief was quick enough to open the bag and take out the small purse, and get away, without her seeing anything.

She didn't leave it in a phone box, she covered it, inside the shop, on a chair, at the back of a shoe shop. She must have been followed. She was dressed smartly, which she regrets, as she was returning from a business meeting.
Most unfortunate biut from what you say, maybe she lost her purse rather than it was stolen. I really can't imagine a thief would move a coat, unfasten a bag, check inside and take a purse.

A thief would just take the whole bag, look at the contents in a discreet place outside the store, take what he wanted and junk the rest.

A thief isn't going to take the risk of looking for something that he doesn't even know about. It's like walking around with cash, if nobody knows there is no more risk of getting mugged when you have something pof value than when you don't, after all nobody knows what you have on your person.

Even with CCTV you may or may not get a usable picture pof somebody or something, but if he is not known to the police, what good is it ?

If it was taken from her bag well that's really not nice, but are you sure it was stolen rather than misplaced ?
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Thieves are VERY tricky. I've seen a thief give a man back his billfold with everything in it except for his money. Then the thief got off the tram and was never to be seen again.

Do not underestimate a thief.
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I hate getting things nicked, It's the risk you take when you choose to 'plank' your beloved objects somewhere instead of checking them in. My trick is to only take out of the house things I'll need, if its cold take a jacket, if you really need it you won’t take it off, and then won’t lose it.

I understand girls always have to have a bag and stuff on them, but I don't understand why men these days carry hand bags, wtf have those guys got in there? Sandwiches?
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I understand girls always have to have a bag and stuff on them, but I don't understand why men these days carry hand bags, wtf have those guys got in there? Sandwiches?
Gadgets, a Swiss army knife, keys, a massive smart phone and a comb/condom (depending on the guy).
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I hate getting things nicked, It's the risk you take when you choose to 'plank' your beloved objects somewhere instead of checking them in. My trick is to only take out of the house things I'll need, if its cold take a jacket, if you really need it you won’t take it off, and then won’t lose it.

I understand girls always have to have a bag and stuff on them, but I don't understand why men these days carry hand bags, wtf have those guys got in there? Sandwiches?
At the weekend (and definitely not a handbag)

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Books
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Spare clothes
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No room for any gadgets, no condoms (last thing on your mind).

Next question..
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