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Old 07.03.2012, 11:16
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Re: VAT rebate in UK - ID card versus passport

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I know several people living in CH that still have a UK license because they just don't have a car & can't be bothered to change.
Ah. On checking my CH licence, I see it has no address on it (although ironically, enough, the UK one does...) - my old paper one used to... Interestingly, I have used it to show that I live abroad to people in the UK... that must have been the times I said "I'll fill in the details later...".

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UK passport as well, so the only document they could show is a B/C permit, however anybody in the UK would have no idea WTF it is!
That's what I said in my first and, I believe, second post on this thread.

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The UK passport is proof of citizenship, nothing to do with residence. BTW Jersey is non EU yet residents have a British passport.
Likewise, that's what I said, UK is unique in EU not to have an address on it, so it you need to prove it, you need other documentation - of which there are plenty of examples.

I live in CH and have a British passport and this is, as we know, also non-EU. So not sure what Jersey has to do with anything

Eitherway, the OP was short changed through someone's ignorance, as while the law does show (based on quark's post) that you are required to show something to prove non-EU residency, that same person didn't know what could and could not be used.
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Old 07.03.2012, 11:20
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Re: VAT rebate in UK - ID card versus passport

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That's their problem then, isn't it. Nonetheless, a UK licence has the address on it, so can be used to prove residence:

It proves the residence on the date it was issued, nothing more.

I have never needed to prove anything in the UK, France or Germany at a shop, the German customs may want to see a CH residence permit but thats something different.

I can supply utility bills, bank statements etc in France & Switzerland, however I live in CH.
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Old 07.03.2012, 11:26
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It proves the residence on the date it was issued, nothing more.

I have never needed to prove anything in the UK, France or Germany at a shop, the German customs may want to see a CH residence permit but thats something different.

I can supply utility bills, bank statements etc in France & Switzerland, however I live in CH.
That's all well and good - but I've changed my post ().

Seriously though, yes it is at the time of issue, but you are meant - as a good citizen - to update your address when you move house. Not to do so IIRC is illegal.

You are pointing out failures of a system that isn't fool-proof to fraud - that's nothing new.

Point is if you need to show residency, there are ways to do it and the OP had the means.

I really don't get why you are splitting hairs on this. Yes residency and where you live can be different places, but ultimately the guy on the other side of the counter doesn't care if you are being fraudulent or not, s/he just wants to see the document so they can tick the box.

The tax man, however...
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Old 07.03.2012, 11:37
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Seriously though, yes it is at the time of issue, but you are meant - as a good citizen - to update your address when you move house. Not to do so IIRC is illegal.

You are pointing out failures of a system that isn't fool-proof to fraud - .
The people I know living in CH with a UK license are not driving, 1 person still owns the property listed on the license, they just don't live there!

The only time any fraud occurs is when you sign the form & make a false declaration, or reimport the goods into the EU. (Laptop for example)
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Old 07.03.2012, 11:55
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The people I know living in CH with a UK license are not driving, 1 person still owns the property listed on the license, they just don't live there!

The only time any fraud occurs is when you sign the form & make a false declaration, or reimport the goods into the EU. (Laptop for example)


That's nothing to do with it - I own property in the UK and don't live there.

You are needlessley splitting hairs. In order to prove that you can export/get tax refund from the UK (and I would argue that the two are different when talking about the highstreet refund system vs. exporting goods as a business), you need to prove that you are not resident in the UK/EU.

Punktschluss.

And yes, I've had difficulties in St Louis Geant by not having the right proof that I live in CH, not just at the border.
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