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Old 07.03.2012, 00:44
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Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

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Old 07.03.2012, 00:47
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Re: Integration

There is always Google Chrome to assist.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_ne...l?cid=29956552

http://www.migration-population.ch/sfm/page-10693.html
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Re: Integration

Dear OP,
You seem to want integration in English. Sit back and think. Take your time.
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Re: Integration

I speak French fluently. I posted it just because I find it ironic. And your reaction don't surprise me... it's Switzerland.

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Great article, thanks!

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Immigration ? Sure, this topic needs to be in German and French. It also is not in Albanian, Turkish or Arabic, so why should it be in English ?

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I speak French fluently. I posted it just because I find it ironic. And your reaction don't surprise me... it's Switzerland.
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BUT, what exactly is "ironic" about it ??
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Old 07.03.2012, 02:03
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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

We don't think that English speaking people will ever have any trouble integrating, because they are generally cool, that's why we don't offer the page in English, none of you would need to read it anyway :-)
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Old 07.03.2012, 06:44
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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

I was going to post support to the OP but looking at the demographics of Switzerland, they clearly show that English as a spoken language at home is stumped by Serbian as well as Albanian and a few others I believe.

That being said, I don't have the time at the moment to look at the level of people who do speak English as a second language and I'm wondering, in light of those statistics, if an argument could be made for English as being a common language between immigrants.

Btw, note that that page doesn't seem to feature another language, and a national one at that of an area which many of our forum dwellers call home.
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Old 07.03.2012, 08:14
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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

One of the founding reasons of the Forum is for fellow Members to help others by answering questions based on their own knowledge, experience.

What was the question again?
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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

99.9% of the Swiss immigration online material is available in English. if you don't appreciate why the "Integration" page is the only page not available in English, you just haven't learned to appreciate the Swiss sense of humor yet.

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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

Let's not be so quick to jump on the OP folks. I see the point he is trying to make that if you are new to the country and want to know how to integrate in the community it would be helpful if you could at least get the information in your own language (if you haven't been lucky enough to find EF....although the integration advice could be a little harsh here ).

As an example, in England, offices have documents in nearly every language and even a lot of places have signs in Polish now due to the huge influx of Polish immigrants.

I don't think that everything should be in your own language as this, in my mind, discourages you from trying to learn the local lingo. But I do think people who are brand new to the country would benefit from a bit of guidance in their language.
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I speak French fluently. I posted it just because I find it ironic.
You'll be in the Alanis Morrisette camp for that then!!

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Remember that song, "Ironic" ? Remember that one? "Isn't it Ironic"...no it's not, ask me another...She kept naming all these things in her song that were supposed to be ironic, and none of them were...they were all just unfortunate...Song should've been called "Unfortunate"...The only ironic thing about that song is that it's called "Ironic" and it is written by a woman who doesn't know what irony is, that's quite ironic when you think about it...

'Cause you look at some of the lyrics ..."Like a traffic jam when you're already late...", that's not ironic - that's just a pain in the hole, that's about it...when was the last time you were late, got stuck in a traffic jam and thought...oh look at the irony on this hey...here's irony for you, I was in a fierce ironic traffic jam the other day I tell you...I was going down Point Road, the irony was backed up for miles it was...there's nothing ironic about being stuck in a traffic jam when you're late for something - unless you're a town planner...If you were a town planner and you were late for a seminar at which you were giving a talk on how you solved the problem of traffic congestion in your area, couldn't get to it because you got stuck in a traffic jam - that'd be bloody well ironic wouldn't it ?

"Lads, I'm sorry I missed it, you'd never guess"...maybe that's what she meant... ...and the next one's nearly as bad..."A no smoking sign on your cigarette break..." No, that's inconsiderate office management that what that is...A "No Smoking" sign in a cigarette factory - irony...it's not a difficult concept, Alanis...it's very rare that you see an ironic "No Smoking" sign...although, have you ever seen one of those ones that say "Thank you for not smoking"...and you are...fairly ironic when that happens...

But the best line in that song, the best song ever written in any song, "It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife..." That's not ironic, that's just f**in' stupid...how big is your sink Alanis ? We haven't got ten thousand spoons between us have we folks ? What do you need this knife for ? To stab the f**ker who keeps leaving spoons all over your house...but we'll give her the benifit of the doubt...Imagine you needed a knife for somethin', couldn't find one 'cause all you found was ten thousand spoons...could happen, and therefore...and therefore...

(gets heckled) Look, when I pause, it's called 'comic timing', it's not 'cue the f**kwit'...so imagine...(heckled again) Pardon me? What ? If it was you'd be the first to know...as I was saying...see this is the difference between saying funny things and saying things...that's why I've got a microphone and you don't...the only time you get a microphone is when they put you on the drive thru counter...so, as I was saying (heckled again)...oh, here we go, he's just not giving up is he...no I'm f**kin' determined I don't care! I'm going to say things and still no f**ker is going to laugh but I'm going to go home feeling very good about myself ! Which is the difference between you and everybody else here, you see...you're going to go home tonight and the next day you're going to talk to all you're mates...alright you're one mate...you're gonna say..."Dad...I was really funny last night, you'll be really proud of me...I went wooooha and everybody thought I was brilliant..." and everybody else is going to go home and say, "The comedy was brilliant, but there was one c*ckhead that just wouldn't shut the f**k up!"

I'm going to get to this, don't worry, I'm going to get to this...Imagine you needed a knife for something...remember a little while back in the routine...imagine you needed a knife for something, couldn't find something, 'cause all you could find was ten thousand spoons...could happen, could happen...and therefore you couldn't do whatever you needed the knife for...and then, the next day it turned out that a spoon would've done...you're only taking the lid off a tin of peach, you could have used a spoon for that you prick ! Ten thousand of the bastards, that's ironic hey ?! Now, I was doing a gig once, back in England right and this woman got really arsey at me about the whole Alanis Morisette thing, she's a big fan right and I got to the bit about the ten thousand spoons and she decided that it was just a bit too picky, right...so, she decides to have a go, and she goes..."Well, it's a metaphor !"...mmmmm...a bit more coherent than he was, so you know so fair play to her right, but it was great because I was able to say...Because she says, "It's like ten thousand spoons", it means it's a similie ! Who'd have thought that knowing the diference between a metaphor and a similie would come in handy one day hey ?! I'm going to head off, someone explain that joke to him...
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Re: Integration ( Govt page in EN does not exist )

[QUOTE=Wollishofener;1506232]Immigration ? Sure, this topic needs to be in German and French. It also is not in Albanian, Turkish or Arabic, so why should it be in English ?

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Ach Jirre! Perhaps the OP is confused that the option to select English is available as a language option alongside Swiss national languages (see top right corner)
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