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Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!



Mirfield beat me to it...
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Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

It is an engrained part of the Swiss (Swiss German at least being the bit I know) culture and you have to try to understand it on the level that it is intended/used within the context of this culture.

When I was first called "Bettli" in a local verein that I am a member of, I admit I was rather dismayed (not the most flattering of nicknames) but at the same time pleasantly surprised that those around me had accepted me to such an extent that they automatically (because more often than not it is done automatically) converted my name into its common Swiss diminuitive. Indeed it's not about the name so much as what it says about the sentiments of the people using it, and for me, that was a good day.
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Old 11.04.2012, 13:58
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Even my City's final budjet from last year which i received today is being signed by Stadspräsident who's name is written under the signature with a nickname.

I understand if someone is not happy with ones given name. Then you go and change it officially, but this sickens me.
OK - I'll say it. What a load of cobblers.

There is a difference between the accepted dimunitive form of a name eg Mike, Tony, Bill, Jill, Kate etc and a nickname. I use such a name at work, on my business card, on my bank account but it is of course not my full name which is on my birth certificate.

My nickname however (The Thun Tiger, if you are interested) is not used on any official documentation and when I sign the Thun budget, I choose not to use it.

I think you just don't understand the nature of diminutives
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Mirfield beat me to it...
Another honourable member here says that quite a lot too
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Like Donald John Simpson becomes DJ. And then his son DJ Junior, etc.

What type of music do they play?

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One collegue of me who i don't really know well, who's name is Esther told me i should call her Esthi. I answered: "As soon as we start to take showers together".
Ah,that made me chuckle...clever.
You are entitled to your opinion,sure beans,and sharing it -that's what this place is for.
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I think you might have a cultural difference radar switched off...It seems to be the opposite here,informality breeds trust in official setting,it's a gesture,welcoming thing,ie "im not a hard ass rule follower,call me Esthi,lemi know,if you happen to need anything later on".

So,to tell somebody to stuff it with the cutsie infantile names is probably quite offensive.You can't move countries and expect your rules to stick to all,immediately.
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Old 11.04.2012, 14:09
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Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

There's a big difference between a diminutive and a nickname. Yes, I was interviewed as Paddy, not as "Lurch", "Kurd", "Crippler" or "Bhopal" (yes, I have been called all these in the past ) and all my colleagues refer to me as such.
Paddy the Englishman.

Edit: Oh yeah, isn't Ueli and diminutive of Hans-Ulrich, anyway?

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So,to tell somebody to stuff it with the cutsie infantile names is probably quite offensive.You can't move countries and expect your rules to stick to all,immediately.
Damn right, mu mu.
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Something what really bothers me is that many swiss persons seems to have given themselves a nickname, and then they are using those shortforms in official circumstances. For example:

Gertrud > Trudi
Ulrich > Uelä
Esther > Esthi
Adrian > Adi

etc. etc..

It is sick and bothers me that culture which is build on everyone calling each other SIE, at the same time they introduce themselves with their nickname.

Even my City's final budjet from last year which i received today is being signed by Stadspräsident who's name is written under the signature with a nickname.

I understand if someone is not happy with ones given name. Then you go and change it officially, but this sickens me.

One collegue of me who i don't really know well, who's name is Esther told me i should call her Esthi. I answered: "As soon as we start to take showers together".

-El Duderino

ps. Any other experiences?
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But in official papers and in at official events?

I understand if you are called Paddy among your friends or your collegues, but from that forward it get's weird. You calling yourself Paddy when you go to a job-interview, or when you sign a Stadtsbudjet as a highest official in the city.

-The Dude

What bothers me is that you refuse to call people what they want to be called - I consider this to be extremely rude.

"Hello, I'm Jeff."
"Well, I'm sorry, sir, but as I don't like your name, I will call you Michael."
"No, my name is Jeff."
"I don't care, I'll call you Michael because I consider Jeff a "weird" name for (whatever environment)."



Excuse me, WHAT?
Respecting someone starts by calling them by their name, which means the name they give themselves and not the name person X deems "appropriate". They determine where they want to be called what, and by whom.
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Old 11.04.2012, 14:25
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Damn right, mu mu.
Anytime, po po..

Anyways.I want to be called all those 6 pipi longstrumpf names she had from now on.I can't copy paste them here due to being smartphone challenged..
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Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Hey OP,

I'm guessing your real name is Richard and you don't want anyone to call you Dick.

I like nicknames. It makes the person more personable.

If you really have a hard time with nicknames, I advise you to stay away from Muotathal. Heiri's Sebbi's Grittl might be a bit much for you.
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Something what really bothers me is that many swiss persons seems to have given themselves a nickname,
Was that Jeff? Or Jeffery?
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I always use Tom, never Thomas.

Tom
I really like Thomas. It sounds soft and rich.

I use my nickname all the time, actually I rarely hear people around me calling me my full name. Only when in something official and doctors, etc. and it seems always weird.

Most people can't pronounce it properly anyway. In Starbucks, I use my Muslim name.
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In Starbucks, I use my Muslim name.


جنسي ???


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Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

I like a bit of informality regarding names, and nicknames are kinda cute
IMHO.I was recently at a new dr in Zürich who was totally confused when
I introduced myself by using my first name and not my surname..she
thought she had got the wrong person for the appointment.All this
'Herr' and 'Frau' business drives me dilly.
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I like a bit of informality regarding names, and nicknames are kinda cute
IMHO.I was recently at a new dr in Zürich who was totally confused when
I introduced myself by using my first name and not my surname..she
thought she had got the wrong person for the appointment.All this
'Herr' and 'Frau' business drives me dilly.
I get a lot of confusion here as my family name is not an uncommon first name and vice versa with my first name.
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The only person with the character and presence to get away with the OP's mumblings is Brian Clough.

The OP is clearly not Brian Clough, so should put a sockli in it.
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But the Stadtpräsident of Luzern is Urs W. Studer.

Urs is not short for Ursula!
In the US it is.

A friend from the US came to visit, and brought along his partner Urs.

I was quite surprise to see a petite blonde woman, while I had been expecting a big, burly, rock heaving dude!

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Come on... I did not know that dissing another forum members is also spreaded here....

What i simply mean is that it gives an unprofessional picture of you if you introduce yourself with your nickname in a formal event. For me that person is no longer so trustworthy.
And this from a guy whose screen name is Jeff Lebowski ? The characters real name is Jeffrey Lebowski and he calls himself the Dude, even in official rug matters? Played by a guy named Jeffrey Leon Bridges, calling himself Jeff Bridges. Really?!?

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I would someone LESS trustworthy if they introduced themselves by a name that no one actually called them. I can say that it would be the same in the US, at least. You would have to look hard to see Bill Clinton ever referred to as William, or Jimmy Carter as James...
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Mirfield beat me to it...
I think you'll find mirfield wasn't the quickest off the starting line this time.

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Anytime, po po..
In fact the true nickname following his logic would be........ mi mi
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