Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Complaints corner  
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:14
JeffLebowski's Avatar
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: LU
Posts: 29
Groaned at 20 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts
JeffLebowski is considered a nuisanceJeffLebowski is considered a nuisanceJeffLebowski is considered a nuisance
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
1) you need to understand what you are talking about - clearly you don't. You confuse the term nickname with diminutive - they are not the same.

2) The diminutive of a name is perfectly acceptable in most Western societies - I can't talk about others, as I don't know - but in Europe and the US, it is pretty standard that some people are called Dick, Chuck, Bill, Tony etc. etc.

3) to add to your myopic list, the other option is that this is what they have been called all their lives by their parents and friends rather than having had the gall, d'you read me, the gall to bestow such a disgusting shortening of their name on themselves!

And for the record, I don't like shortening of names and introduce myself by my full name and don't answer if my name isn't used.

You clearly must be (C) or just a troll.
I understand what I'm writing about. Diminutives like Chuck, Bill, Tony, etc, are rather naive and they also give a naive picture of a person using it. Some examples: Chuck Norris, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair... Tony's Pizzeria sounds great, but voting Anthony Blair who calles himself Tony... Maybe that's why he is no longer in throne...?

I'm not a troll, I'm someone who cares about the original swiss names, and doesn't understand why everything must be raped by MTV-generation.
This user would like to thank JeffLebowski for this useful post:
The following 5 users groan at JeffLebowski for this post:
  #102  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:25
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
I understand what I'm writing about. Diminutives like Chuck, Bill, Tony, etc, are rather naive and they also give a naive picture of a person using it. Some examples: Chuck Norris, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair... Tony's Pizzeria sounds great, but voting Anthony Blair who calles himself Tony... Maybe that's why he is no longer in throne...?

I'm not a troll, I'm someone who cares about the original swiss names, and doesn't understand why everything must be raped by MTV-generation.
Jeez. Just let Homer be Homer, Mickey Mouse be Mickey Mouse and Tony Blair be Tony Blair, what exactly is so hard about that?!
The following 4 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #103  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:27
MidfieldGeneral's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,503
Groaned at 92 Times in 85 Posts
Thanked 3,086 Times in 1,248 Posts
MidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

" One collegue of me who i don't really know well, who's name is Esther told me i should call her Esthi. I answered: "As soon as we start to take showers together".

haha, this made me laugh out loud.
The following 3 users would like to thank MidfieldGeneral for this useful post:
  #104  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:27
Liverbird's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zürich
Posts: 320
Groaned at 8 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 248 Times in 130 Posts
Liverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of many
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
In the UK you can do anything you want with your name, you can legally go under an alais, or you can officially change your name by deed poll. The UK passport form even asks you for previous names.....
I stand corrected But really WTF...
  #105  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:29
SamWeiseVielleicht's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bern
Posts: 725
Groaned at 11 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 893 Times in 397 Posts
SamWeiseVielleicht has a reputation beyond reputeSamWeiseVielleicht has a reputation beyond reputeSamWeiseVielleicht has a reputation beyond reputeSamWeiseVielleicht has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
I'm not a troll, I'm someone who cares about the original swiss names, and doesn't understand why everything must be raped by MTV-generation.

Huh, come again?

Hansueli for Hans-Ulrich and Bethli for Elisabeth etc. have been the typical Swiss names for many generations. The only reason for the difference between official names and these "diminutives" is that (by law) names in official documents have to be written in standard German. But that does not make Hans-Ulrich more typical than Hansueli, far from it.
  #106  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:30
Textoch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas, USA (formerly Vaud, CH)
Posts: 1,201
Groaned at 25 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 3,058 Times in 937 Posts
Textoch has a reputation beyond reputeTextoch has a reputation beyond reputeTextoch has a reputation beyond reputeTextoch has a reputation beyond reputeTextoch has a reputation beyond reputeTextoch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
I understand what I'm writing about. Diminutives like Chuck, Bill, Tony, etc, are rather naive and they also give a naive picture of a person using it. Some examples: Chuck Norris, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair... Tony's Pizzeria sounds great, but voting Anthony Blair who calles himself Tony... Maybe that's why he is no longer in throne...?

I'm not a troll, I'm someone who cares about the original swiss names, and doesn't understand why everything must be raped by MTV-generation.
A) Deeming people "naive" for no other reason than their name is offensive.

B) The use of nicknames is certainly not limited to the Swiss, and the use/prevalence of nicknames/diminutives certainly precedes the advent of MTV.

C) I'm no Brit, but I am pretty sure Tony Blair was never 'in throne.'
The following 5 users would like to thank Textoch for this useful post:
  #107  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:32
MidfieldGeneral's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,503
Groaned at 92 Times in 85 Posts
Thanked 3,086 Times in 1,248 Posts
MidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

my proper name is MidfieldGeneral but my swiss friends call me Miguel
This user would like to thank MidfieldGeneral for this useful post:
  #108  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:32
Liverbird's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zürich
Posts: 320
Groaned at 8 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 248 Times in 130 Posts
Liverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of many
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
C) I'm no Brit, but I am pretty sure Tony Blair was never 'in throne.'
He'd never fit
This user would like to thank Liverbird for this useful post:
  #109  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:38
PaddyG's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pensier, Fribourg
Posts: 9,243
Groaned at 118 Times in 102 Posts
Thanked 16,857 Times in 5,912 Posts
PaddyG has a reputation beyond reputePaddyG has a reputation beyond reputePaddyG has a reputation beyond reputePaddyG has a reputation beyond reputePaddyG has a reputation beyond reputePaddyG has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
I'm not a troll, I'm someone who cares about the original swiss names, and doesn't understand why everything must be raped by MTV-generation.
I was like when I read that. How you can credit centuries-old Swiss diminutives to the "MTV generation" just beggars belief.

Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?

Quote:
Tony Blair... Tony's Pizzeria sounds great, but voting Anthony Blair who calles himself Tony... Maybe that's why he is no longer in throne...?
Actually seems to be a left-wing thing:
Tony Blair
Jim Callaghan
Ken Livingstone
Tony Blair
Ed Balls

Whereas:

Margaret Thatcher
David Cameron ("Call me Dave")
George Osborne
John Major
Nigel Lawson
Ken Howard.....damn
The following 5 users would like to thank PaddyG for this useful post:
  #110  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:39
olygirl's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: d' Innerschwiiz
Posts: 7,628
Groaned at 416 Times in 279 Posts
Thanked 17,933 Times in 5,546 Posts
olygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Dear OP,

Simple.

Collect enough signatures to bring this issue to a national vote.

Issue solved.
The following 10 users would like to thank olygirl for this useful post:
  #111  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:47
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
Dear OP,

Simple.

Collect enough signatures to bring this issue to a national vote.

Issue solved.
Nah, I don't think there'd be a chance.
Too many people would consider this issueli
too weird to sign a petition or vote on it
The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #112  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:55
Carlos R's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Roundn'about Basel
Posts: 7,232
Groaned at 105 Times in 95 Posts
Thanked 9,934 Times in 4,178 Posts
Carlos R has a reputation beyond reputeCarlos R has a reputation beyond reputeCarlos R has a reputation beyond reputeCarlos R has a reputation beyond reputeCarlos R has a reputation beyond reputeCarlos R has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
Diminutives like Chuck, Bill, Tony, etc, are rather naive and they also give a naive picture of a person using it. Some examples: Chuck Norris, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair... Tony's Pizzeria sounds great, but voting Anthony Blair who calles himself Tony... Maybe that's why he is no longer in throne...?
Given that Bill and Tony managed to get to the top of their political piles and stay there for their full terms, that you seem to clearly overlook the fact that this happens all over the world, but only in CH does it make you sick, and finally that your first posts mentions "nicknames", I would suggest that really you don't...

Quote:
View Post
...understand what I'm writing about.
Maybe you do now after some good 'ol EFing education, but I would go so far as to say that the only naive person around here is you. Punktschluss...li.
The following 5 users would like to thank Carlos R for this useful post:
This user groans at Carlos R for this post:
  #113  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:56
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 32,246
Groaned at 2,467 Times in 1,784 Posts
Thanked 39,342 Times in 18,543 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

And not to forget "Heidi"!

(somehow Adelheid just doesn't have the same ring to it!)

Tom
The following 5 users would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #114  
Old 11.04.2012, 17:57
Liverbird's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zürich
Posts: 320
Groaned at 8 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 248 Times in 130 Posts
Liverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of manyLiverbird has earned the respect of many
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
My parents gave me their surname and i still changed it.
Pots and kettles, spring to mind
  #115  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:03
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 11,145
Groaned at 357 Times in 292 Posts
Thanked 16,476 Times in 8,375 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

I can't believe someone is bothered by such things...

Shouldn't be considered a sign of trust or openess when somebody tells you his nickname/short first name?
Never mind...cultural differences..
The following 2 users would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #116  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:06
amogles's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 12,361
Groaned at 340 Times in 276 Posts
Thanked 26,264 Times in 11,001 Posts
amogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond reputeamogles has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
most of these nicknames have been used from early childhood days because kids find the real names boring.
a lot of people carry on using those names for themselves all their lives.

and it's not something only happening in switzerland.
my US friend cassandra calls herself Cassie, my italien friend Antonio is Toni.
and what about the US Jack who really is a John? :-)
Wasn't there a US president called William who called himself Bill, even on official campaign material?
  #117  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:10
MidfieldGeneral's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,503
Groaned at 92 Times in 85 Posts
Thanked 3,086 Times in 1,248 Posts
MidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond reputeMidfieldGeneral has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

PEDANT ALERT

I think we're confusing "nickname" with "diminutive" on this thread

AT EASE


  #118  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:11
simon_ch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 2,390
Groaned at 128 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 3,488 Times in 1,377 Posts
simon_ch has a reputation beyond reputesimon_ch has a reputation beyond reputesimon_ch has a reputation beyond reputesimon_ch has a reputation beyond reputesimon_ch has a reputation beyond reputesimon_ch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

I once worked in the insurance industry and I can tell you a LOT of old people sign contracts and fill out forms with their shortened name, which can sometimes make it a little difficult to find them in the system.. this system of not using your formal first name has actually diminished a lot with shorter, more modern first names.

I only recently found out that my grandmother's first name wasn't Margrit but Margaretha, she simply never spelt it that way or introduced herself that way, so I doubt many people apart from her parents ever knew her real name.
The following 2 users would like to thank simon_ch for this useful post:
  #119  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:21
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 12,778
Groaned at 99 Times in 88 Posts
Thanked 19,576 Times in 8,681 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Jack = יוֹחָנָן
Mat = מתיתיהו
Sam = שמואל
Mark = Μάρκος
Luke = Λουκᾶς
Pete = πέτρος

PS: To all the Swiss citicens that want to change there name but are not allowed. Move for a short period to the U.K. and sign a Deed Poll

Quote:
Deed Poll (change of name)

Swiss citizens resident in the United Kingdom who wish to change their name are able to do so by submitting a Deed Poll. The document has to be signed by a notary public and the notary's signature certified by the Legalisation Office, Foreign & Commonwealth Office.

The original document must be sent to the Embassy, together with proof that the new name is effectively accepted in the United Kingdom (e.g. British passport).

The competent canton of origin in Switzerland will have to confirm that the change of name has been registered in the family records before any new Swiss documents can be issued. This can take several weeks.

When submitting a change of name it is important that both old and new names are mentioned in all correspondence until the change of name has been accepted and registered by the Swiss authorities.
Source.
This user would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #120  
Old 11.04.2012, 18:24
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 13,491
Groaned at 251 Times in 212 Posts
Thanked 22,678 Times in 9,262 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Damn swiss with their nicknames!!

Quote:
View Post
Same here. And I hate people who shorten my kids' names,too.
I completely agree with you there. I always introduce myself by my full name and I really hate it when our son's name is shortened by people. They don't even ask and some of them even write it in cards and stuff. If we'd wanted him to be called *** we'd have christened him that and not ******* which is the name we actually gave him (and we really like).
This user would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
Closed Thread

Tags
nicknames




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why do the Swiss drive with their lights on during the day??? ShazzaMcGowan Transportation/driving 40 30.08.2018 12:23
whats up with swiss not selling their best sellers in the US on home turf? FromOuttaTown Complaints corner 9 02.02.2011 15:51
Eurosceptic Swiss count their blessings Cashboy Swiss politics/news 6 10.08.2010 18:42
Glasgow Nicknames oscarsmum Jokes/funnies 1 08.12.2009 19:17


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:47.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0