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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

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This isn't at all what I am saying. But if someone does wish to work in the industry, such a rant may not help in the long term, perhaps, as there are many in said industry on EF I am sure.
Yes sure it is better to shut up and accept everything. With people like you we will soon all earn 2000 francs a month and get 5 days holidays a year.

My strategy is that of the French resistance, I do not speak up but underground I fight. Yours is more that of the milice, up to you.
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Old 01.05.2012, 19:50
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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

It happens. If it was as described, then the OP's husband was put on hold for some reason - perhaps another candidate turned up who looked a better fit. Forcing the issue pushed the company into a corner, so they issued the "we're not interested".

I've been a hiring manager, got the OK to hire someone, gone through the whole process, then been told to take someone internally, who's just lost their job.

Until you've signed the contract, don't assume you've got the job. If there's delays, assume that you're being strung along, and hope that it turns out OK. If you push it - you'll lose it. It's annoying, but it's part of life. Get over it. Disappointing, but nobody died.
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Old 01.05.2012, 19:53
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You probably work for Swatch
I'm not sure that making assumptions under these circumstances is all that wise.

And judging by the information given by the first poster it would be as easy as pie to figure out who the husband is if the said information is passed on to the HR executive.

Are you not aware of how close nit the watch industry is? And the heart of the industry lies in Switzerland.
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Old 01.05.2012, 19:58
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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

Back up,that's all I can say..unless you got your new desk or key to your locker,nothing is sure.Companies have gazillions to choose from,but so do applicants.So why wait for "yes" and not negotiate with another business,until you get something sure...Seems like every company here counts on you negotiating also elsewhere,they are taking their time,so can you. I wouldn's see it as jackass.
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Yes sure it is better to shut up and accept everything. With people like you we will soon all earn 2000 francs a month and get 5 days holidays a year.

My strategy is that of the French resistance, I do not speak up but underground I fight. Yours is more that of the milice, up to you.
You've got me all wrong actually. I really do believe bad practices should be highlighted and fought against - but that this rant may not be the best way forward if the OP's husband is hoping to find work here in the industry.
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You've got me all wrong actually. I really do believe bad practices should be highlighted and fought against - but that this rant may not be the best way forward if the OP's husband is hoping to find work here in the industry.
OK so what should be done?
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It's an employers market, don't expect any 'favours'.
Probably completely different to work the company.
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Honest answer? I have no idea actually- as it seems the practice is common here. We had a thread recently about Phillip Morris where a helpful person in the know explained that the process can take months, to have a proper confirmation of a job.

Of course if OP's husband has decided to give CH and the watch industry a miss from now on- this rant may make the OP feel better, but not achieve much, really. I can well understand how frustrating it is. However, if the OPs husband is still hoping to get a job here in the watch industry - this rant may turn badly against him - in which case I'd ask for a withdrawal. It's like going through a green light with a big lorry coming from the side on the red - you have the right of way- but not much point in arguing the point.

Bonne chance.
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Old 01.05.2012, 20:40
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Old 01.05.2012, 21:42
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mais oui

Most of the Chinese nowadays do not really give a darn on Mao, and actually have no good feeling towards him, or even hate him for the Cultural Revolution he created and so on. So please update your china related knowledge, and move on to year 2012, we are not in cold war period of time. Oh yeah, political propaganda jokes should be updated as well.
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Old 01.05.2012, 21:50
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Most of the Chinese nowadays do not really give a darn on Mao, and actually have no good feeling towards him, or even hate him for the Cultural Revolution he created and so on. So please update your china related knowledge, and move on to year 2012, we are not in cold war period of time. Oh yeah, political propaganda should be update as well.
Aww....

Somebody needs to tune up a sarcasm filter

Internet is amusing. Does Mao count as a pseudo Godwin?
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Aww....

Somebody needs to tune up a sarcasm filter

Internet is amusing. Does Mao count as a pseudo Godwin?
Mao term is kind of in the similiar position according to the Godwin's law.
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Mao term is kind of in the similiar position according to the Godwin's law.
How about "even in China.." then, must be too
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How about "even in China.." then, must be too
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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

Yes indeed, specialists say that you should send out your application requests to at least a dozen possible options at the same time ! I that way got my first real job in aircargo. I before, after gotting dropped out of Matura school successfully got an apprenticeship to start a few months later. And in the meantime worked as an unskilled manual labourer.

And yes, you are not to complain as other employers may hear about your being a "complainer"
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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

It's somewhat amusing that a complaint about unprofessional behaviour is in itself slightly unprofessional and perhaps damaging in the long term.

OP, what you might not realise is that wheels turn slowly in Switzerland - advertising a mid- or high-level position means that the company may factor in 3-6 months to complete the hire. That includes leaving the advertisement up on their careers site.

From what I'm reading, you gave it a few weeks.

With your complaint, you have now guaranteed that you husband will not be in the running for this job nor any other at the company.

Take your heart off your sleeve and get it deleted - click on the triangle next to your post and report the thread for deletion. It might be too late but you can but try.
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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

it is true that posting on names is not good, but i understand the feeling, i have had similar experiences
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This thread is amusing.

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Re: Unprofessional/bad manners

As someone who works in a field where everyone knows every else, I can echo the comments above. I might complain about my employer, but never in a way that it could be tied back to me.
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