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Old 08.05.2012, 10:28
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Re: Are my children semi-invisible!?

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I go nearly every day to top up on the fresh things like bread, milk, veggies etc and we're a family of three.
But I bet you don't go after work, in the evening.
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Old 08.05.2012, 10:29
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Re: Are my children semi-invisible!?

I usually engage in "conversations" with kids whenever I get the chance (I used to teach math for a short time in a previous life..), even with the small ones - smiling, waving at them, saying hello...I believe the society will be as we make it to be and things start at an early age, and if you are being a grumpy old fart then don¨t complain later on how unfriendly Swiss or whatever other nationality are! You too made that happen..
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Old 08.05.2012, 10:33
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A pushchair in a supermarket?

Now, you're just trolling me!
No different to a trolley surely?
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Old 08.05.2012, 10:35
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But I bet you don't go after work, in the evening.


Guilty as charged (well in truth I try not to go with mini-mimi, although sometimes it's unavoidable, but I do send the other half a list of things to pick up on his way home if he's not working too late which means I don't have to go).
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Old 08.05.2012, 10:35
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But I bet you don't go after work, in the evening.
I do, as it's on the walk home.

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And another day the Queen was coming to Bournemouth and we were a little late and my daughter couldn't see anything, people immediately took her and handed her over to a policeman in front of the gate who placed her there right at the front.
This would indeed be impossible in Switzerland for one simple reason: Luckily we don't have a queen.
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Old 08.05.2012, 12:23
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This would indeed be impossible in Switzerland for one simple reason: Luckily we don't have a queen.
What about Christoph Blocher?
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What about Christoph Blocher?
No, he is definetly not more a king's jester

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Old 08.05.2012, 15:27
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Re: Are my children semi-invisible!?

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What would be wrong with a 6 year old clearing up his own mess? In this case though, having re-read your post, it was your mess, so why didn't you clear it up? What is the message given to your child by refusing to do so???
Well, here's the thing Odile. I am always quite happy to clean up my own mess, on that we can agree. So, my children always see me, and help, cleaning up our stuff at restaurants like ikea or if we are out for picnics. They even have little job charts where they tick off their chores to earn treats and special days out.

But you raise a good point about the message I was sending to my 6 year old daughter. And it's ironic you bring up this point because the whole incident sprung from trying to show a good example.

As I mentioned, and as happens a lot in Swiss supermarkets, the cashier scanned my stuff and even with the most organized packing, it still was not physically possible for me to get everything packed away before she started on the next customer and then was pushing my stuff further and further into each other, squashing everything up together. So, I was naturally hurrying and that's how the yogurt pot slipped out of my hand.

Now, she was a miserable old cow, as I had stated, and hadn't cracked a smile the whole time. She just didn't seem the type to take much joy in life, let alone her job. When the yogurt pot dropped, being in a supermarket environment, I just assumed they'd have some kind of system for mopping up spills. And I thought I should let the cashier know so that she could arrange for it to be cleaned up. "We wouldn't want anyone to slip on it would we?" we're my exact words to my children.

So, I look up at the miserable cow, who still hadn't cracked a smile, and said "desole Madame" and showed her what had happened. By this time, there were no other customers and she was just standing there doing nothing. I, on the other hand, was laden down with groceries (I'd spent a wad of cash in her store) two young children and pushing a stroller. Her reaction is to pull out the paper towel and hand it to my kid.

You may think it completely logical for me to put everything down and clean it up but quite honestly I didn't and still don't see it that way. On this we will just have to disagree. People spill stuff in restaurants and supermarkets, happens all the time and it is part of the employees job description to clean it up. I've done this kind of work myself and I never expected to watch my customers clean up in front of me while I, the employee, stood there and watched.

So, what did I teach my daughter by handing back the paper towel? In my opinion I taught her that her mother is not a doormat and will stand up for herself and her kids when the situation demands.
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Old 08.05.2012, 15:37
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So, what did I teach my daughter by handing back the paper towel? In my opinion I taught her that her mother is not a doormat and will stand up for herself and her kids when the situation demands.
Do I understand correctly that you handed it back without cleaning up? LOL brave girl! You could have also smeared it with yogurt on both sides and then hand it back.
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Old 08.05.2012, 15:43
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Well, here's the thing Odile. I am always quite happy to clean up my own mess, on that we can agree...
You were expecting a certain behaviour and didn't receive it, hence you blame the cashier for your mess. It wasn't her mess, she doesn't get the money from the sale and she can't leave her station. You could have helped her out by tidying it up but you were high handed in expecting her to help you and refusing responsibility for your actions. In the company of a minor, too.

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Do I understand correctly that you handed it back without cleaning up? LOL brave girl! You could have also smeared it with yogurt on both sides and then hand it back.
Plaudits!

What is it with shop workers taking rubbish from people, anyway? It's the only time I ever seem to see willing customer service here. If I want to throw an ice cream wrapper away at the supermarket checkout, say, I ask if they have a bin. 9 times out of 10, the checkout operator holds out her hand to take the wrapper -- covered in gooey, molten ice cream. I even had one wanting to take my son's used tissue from me. What next? "Here's a dog turd I just picked up from the footpath. Could you please direct me to the appropriate receptacle?" "Why, please let me take that from you -- it would be my pleasure!"
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Re: Are my children semi-invisible!?

Of course I didn't clean it up. But according to the peanut gallery on here, I should have got down on hands and knees and done it no questions asked.

I probably also should have offered to finish the miserable old cows shift so she could go home, have a hot bath and a glass of pinot grigio. Nestlé, I've heard, are quite the slave drivers.
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Of course I didn't clean it up. But according to the peanut gallery on here, I should have got down on hands and knees and done it no questions asked.

I probably also should have offered to finish the miserable old cows shift so she could go home, have a hot bath and a glass of pinot grigio. Nestlé, I've heard, are quite the slave drivers.
You rant has been denied. Don't get Bolshy.

Pinot Grigio's blerghh.
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You were expecting a certain behaviour and didn't receive it, hence you blame the cashier for your mess. It wasn't her mess, she doesn't get the money from the sale and she can't leave her station. You could have helped her out by tidying it up but you were high handed in expecting her to help you and refusing responsibility for your actions. In the company of a minor, too.

Rant denied. Sentence: return to store, apologise for grumbly mood.
Which part of the redoubtable Mel07's story led you to believe that she had blamed the cashier? She didn't. She expected a certain level of service, yes, and when that wasn't delivered, she made her displeasure clear.

Rebuttal denied. Sentence: practice English comprehension exercises all afternoon.
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Pinot Grigio's blerghh.
Try pinot gris, instead. Especially in Suisse Romande.
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Old 08.05.2012, 15:50
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Rant denied. Sentence: return to store, apologise for grumbly mood.
Are you sure about this? I thought it best not to set foot in there again. Sleep deprived, caffeine addicted, pissed off woman goes berserk in Nestlé store. It wouldn't be pretty.
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Old 08.05.2012, 15:54
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And by the way, how many times do I have to mention Nestlé and my Nespresso addiction before I get sent a case from said company?

A case of Pinot Gris wouldn't go amiss either.
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