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Old 25.06.2012, 21:08
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Re: I would love to give Swiss businesses my money, but....

OK, I now get why the big stoppers are so difficult to come by, so thanks for that.

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Secondly, on the shops that were shut on Saturdays: which were they - the pro ones?
ProFot, Graphic Art & Lite & Byte are all profesional suppliers & kit rental outfits & as such they only run Mon - Fri business hours. They are 1st & formost a business to business supplier - It's a bit like you needing a a bit of metal cut for a DIY project & being suprised that the Metalwork factory is closed on a Saturday.
While I get your analogy of the metalwork factory, I don't think it necessarily applies fully here. While I understand that these outfits are primarily business to business, I feel that they are missing a trick. There are more than enough talented amateurs in Switzerland with the requirement of specialist items who, like me, work full time during the week, and as such have no possibility to visit the places that would be most likely to carry such items.

Of course these businesses may simply not want to work with the general public - I know in my particular business that the they are the worst customers to deal with - to the point of not really wanting them as customers.

I guess that leaves me with the Internet, but as a non credit card holder that's not really a viable possibility, unless you'd be prepared to lend me yours . Nah, I'm go to have to apply for one, despite saying I'd never use one again.

Oh, and Mr Hefferlump, thanks for the suggestions. I managed to score some pretty good hits at the weekend without the equipment I wanted, but nevertheless these bits of kit are still in my mind.
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Old 25.06.2012, 21:42
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Re: I would love to give Swiss businesses my money, but....

We tried to get a decent telescope and wanted to collect jn Switzerland so we didn't have to worry about it being damaged in transit. The local photography shop didn't stock that size and after endless phone calls and emails the only offer a Swiss shop gave us was for a used one We ended up ordering from Germany.
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Old 25.06.2012, 22:05
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Re: I would love to give Swiss businesses my money, but....

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Opinions are like butt-holes, everybody has one. I just wish most people would just sit on theirs more. Their opinions that is.

Well if Nikon had a high ISO capable (non stupid megapixel) camera I would so be going to the "dark side" right now. I'm still very disappointed with the fact that Canon's only cameras that can expose for the active focus point is the $6.5k D1 X, yet Nikon do it on their $900 D7000. It just doesn't make any sens now.

Anywho. We should get together for another walk about or a sunset cruise sometime soon.

Ciao!
i always used the simple method of centre-weighted metering and locking metering and locking focus before re-composing and releasing the shutter.
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Old 25.06.2012, 22:19
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Re: I would love to give Swiss businesses my money, but....

lol...

this thread should probably moved away from the complaints corner and instead to the off-topic section. It seems to have turned into a photography hobby thread.



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While I understand that these outfits are primarily business to business, I feel that they are missing a trick.
Of course these businesses may simply not want to work with the general public - I know in my particular business that the they are the worst customers to deal with - to the point of not really wanting them as customers.
They're really not missing a trick tbh. The 1 or 2k they 'might' make from Saturday shoppers really isn't worth the opening overheads as pro's generally don't work weekends & also considering the sort of sales they get from pro clients during the week.
And yes, generally speaking, they are not really into walk in amateurs - they are more often than not very time consuming for the pay off & there are plenty of consumer shops in Zurich that can easily deal with them.
I know it sound awfully snobby, but I remember when KJP in London got taken over by Calumet & they began marketing to the 'public' - They lost a hell of a lot of us pro's after a couple of months because we got fed up with nipping in to buy film & polaroid or whatever, on the way to jobs & having to queue behind some dreamer pouring over the latest Nikon for 20 mins. (Direct Lighting did very well out of that as I remember).
If you are a serious amateur, then just like us, you know what you want & generally pick up the phone & order it & have it delivered & a lot of little bits & pieces aren't carried in store anyway, you order & they arrive later that day or the next day from the manufacturer.

Just the way it is & not just in ZH - in London & even in NYC - most of the pro places only do Mon-Fri.
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I guess that leaves me with the Internet, but as a non credit card holder that's not really a viable possibility, unless you'd be prepared to lend me yours . Nah, I'm go to have to apply for one, despite saying I'd never use one again.

If you know what you want, then simply ring up or email any of the 3 pro places I mentioned & they will order & deliver what you want & they will send you an invoice to pay within 30 days. I've never paid upfront with any of them.
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We tried to get a decent telescope and wanted to collect in Switzerland so we didn't have to worry about it being damaged in transit.
How do you think it got from the factory to the shop?...
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How do you think it got from the factory to the shop?...
Certainly not by DHL (who slammed it down hard on the tiles in our foyer ) until I said what it was and the delivery man started treating it gently.

Buying from a shop you see things in working order. I would have hated to have had the lenses damaged in transit and all the hassle surrounding it.
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Certainly not by DHL (who slammed it down hard on the tiles in our foyer ) until I said what it was and the delivery man started treating it gently.

Buying from a shop you see things in working order. I would have hated to have had the lenses damaged in transit and all the hassle surrounding it.
Seriously, the way they pack camera stuff these days (and your telescope) you could chuck it off a 4th floor roof & it would be fine.

TBH, the Swiss DHL dude is the least of your worries in the shipping chain - From far east factories, multiple ports & trucks to the store...
If it's made it that far intact, chances are it's gonna make the last few km's to your house
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