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Old 18.08.2012, 18:30
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Re: Is Swiss culture the rudest you have encountered?

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I think you're making a basic mistake of extrapolting Zueri manners to the rest of the country. Remember, the bigger the city the higher the number of foreigners.
Actually you are right. I have said Switzerland which would suggest the whole of. I never encountered this in Geneva, where i spent half my time for best part of 2011.
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I live in the sticks. In the country-side Ive been kicked out of restaurants (and a Migro Cafe) for speaking English and looking "Yugoslavian"..... I also had my gym bag searched the first two weeks at my gym because I "looked Albanian"....

Now I am American Indian. I dont think I look Adriatic or Slavic. Its simply that I am a foreigner. In all the years I lived in Zurich though I was only lectured once (in a coin shop) by some Anti-American guy who wanted to express that the "Chinese will rule America one day soon".....

That said I have never had anything bad happen to me in Zug.

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Old 18.08.2012, 18:43
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Perhaps, not encountered NYC yet. But note, i am not just talking about commuter ignorance. Do the Americans make you want to throw your shopping on the floor and say screw you I'll take my custom elsewhere too?
Done that,did not throw it on the floor,but left it on the counter.In canadaspit happens all over the world
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Re: Is Swiss culture the rudest you have encountered?

I live in a more rural place and the civility and courtesy is of such a high prevalence that I long for some Scottish doorness. By the way I don't think there is any such thing as a bracket of manners based on Nationalities - was a 19thC idea used to organise minds that caused many wars, but the British seem to love this categorising and print billions of pounds to keep it alive. The English are much nicer 'though and always a pleasure to talk to.
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I live in the sticks. In the country-side Ive been kicked out of restaurants (and a Migro Cafe) for speaking English and looking "Yugoslavian"..... I also had my gym bag searched the first two weeks at my gym because I "looked Albanian"....

Now I am American Indian. I dont think I look Adriatic or Slavic. Its simply that I am a foreigner. In all the years I lived in Zurich though I was only lectured once (in a coin shop) by some Anti-American guy who wanted to express that the "Chinese will rule America one day soon".....

That said I have never had anything bad happen to me in Zug.
May you should have a mohawk hair cut,that will get you respect With all the bad movie about native american ,i know they are the most peacefull people . Some warnnings ! don`t piss em off ,I know I work with them
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Old 18.08.2012, 18:56
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Mom and Dad never taught these people to take others feelings into consideration.

There are different levels of rude. I dont think its an arrogant, snobby, form of rude. Its just a lack of parenting and manners.
You hit the nail on the head.
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I I also had my gym bag searched the first two weeks at my gym because I "looked Albanian"....
And you actually returned to that place after the first incident ?
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Clearly you haven't seen me on the threads much.

Born and bred south east London, worked in central for 9 years.

South east London means you were mostly commuting by train not tube, I always found people on trains were a bit more polite probably because they usually take the same train with the same people every day.
The tube on the other hand was always full of rude people and no, most of them weren't tourists (not many tourists dare to use the tube during rush hour).

Also I noticed that there has been a marked change to the worse when comparing the situation in the '90s to the last decade in London. In the '90s and up to the early 2000s people were more polite than in recent years.
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I live in the sticks. In the country-side Ive been kicked out of restaurants (and a Migro Cafe) for speaking English and looking "Yugoslavian"...
Now I am American Indian. I dont think I look Adriatic or Slavic.
You do know about the Karl May movies which were shot in Yugoslavia in the 70s ? I believe that all the American Indians - apart from the key characters like Winnetou - were casted amongst local folks...
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Karl May never was in North America ,my understanding
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Actually you are right. I have said Switzerland which would suggest the whole of. I never encountered this in Geneva, where i spent half my time for best part of 2011.
A couple of English girls visited Zurich from Geneva a few months back with their mother (who has lived in Geneva most of her life). They told me their mother loves coming to Zurich because the people are so much more friendly than in Geneva. In 5 years I've had one person be rude to me in Zurich and only a couple at home on Flumserberg.

Although just last week I filled up with petrol at a Coop station and told the lady at the till I was at pump 4, when I saw the total I realised it wasn't mine and I was actually at 5. She did a quick humph and tut as she had to cancel and give me my new total. I just smiled an apology and gave her my best "I'm just a dumb man look" and she smiled back.

I think a lot of the time you just get back what you give out.
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Old 18.08.2012, 20:08
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Karl May never was in North America ,my understanding
correction he must have been
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Re: Is Swiss culture the rudest you have encountered?

Having lived in the Zurich and Winterthur region for a while anyone that suggests people here are rude needs to look in the mirror as I have always found the swiss very accomodating and friendly. In the rural areas you will always get a gruezi when out riding or walking especially if you also offer ne.

I have had people from Geneva comment on Zurich being more friendly and even had people move seats on the train so I could we could sit together to be told that would not happen in Geneva. Maybe this is because geneva possible has a much wider cross profile of nationalities while Zurich predominates with german culture. In summary I cant understand how anyone thinks the swiss are rude.
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Having lived in the Zurich and Winterthur region for a while anyone that suggests people here are rude needs to look in the mirror as I have always found the swiss very accomodating and friendly. In the rural areas you will always get a gruezi when out riding or walking especially if you also offer ne.

I have had people from Geneva comment on Zurich being more friendly and even had people move seats on the train so I could we could sit together to be told that would not happen in Geneva. Maybe this is because geneva possible has a much wider cross profile of nationalities while Zurich predominates with german culture. In summary I cant understand how anyone thinks the swiss are rude.
Yes, yes and yes! I absolutely love how everyone greets you, whether they're an adult or a child. Only in Switzerland do I walk into a physician's office or a gym and have every person there greet me (and say good-bye when they leave). When I'm on the train, usually people will offer their seats so I can sit beside my pram. Also, in shops people are very polite and helpful.

It's funny to see this thread because to me, friendliness is one of the most attractive qualities about the country.
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I already paid for one year and it was the only gym within running distance to my house

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Yes, yes and yes! I absolutely love how everyone greets you, whether they're an adult or a child. Only in Switzerland do I walk into a physician's office or a gym and have every person there greet me (and say good-bye when they leave). When I'm on the train, usually people will offer their seats so I can sit beside my pram. Also, in shops people are very polite and helpful.

It's funny to see this thread because to me, friendliness is one of the most attractive qualities about the country.
Maybe I am too English but I find the incessant "Gruezi" a bit much, especially in shops. To me it sounds insincere.
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I think a lot of the time you just get back what you give out.
That's the wisest and most insightful sentence by far of this rather pointless thread.
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Maybe I am too English but I find the incessant "Gruezi" a bit much, especially in shops. To me it sounds insincere.
A shame you see it that way. I say it all the time and it's very much sincere.
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To me it sounds insincere.
It's a greeting, what is there to be sincere or insincere about in the first place? Same with thank you all the time in Scandinavia, the constant it's nice in English, the omnipresent how are you in any language...? Try to say how you really are when they ask, you'll see how sincere it was. It's a linguistic convention in communication, a ritual totally deprived of any other meaning that being a ritual. When you say "Grüezi" or "How are you", you do not mean what the words actually mean but only "I am respecting the ritual and let you know that I am".

When people in some regions of the UK say in every sentence, they don't tell you to actually do it. It's a ritual at another socio-linguistic level. Nothing to be afraid of.
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It's a greeting, what is there to be sincere or insincere about in the first place?
Who could find this guy insincere?

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