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We have been robbed twice since we moved to our apartment in Zurichberg (isn't Zurichberg supposed to be a good area?)...I have a feeling it's the son of one of our neighbors who is breaking in, but of course I can not prove it.

They broke in the first week we moved in last October, then they broke in sometime last week while we were out of town. I am so angry but there is nothing I can not. The father is a very wealthy lawyer (I heard he lost his license, but I am not 100% sure, yet). He is divorced from his first wife, had three kids...then had a relationship with a Brazilian woman whom he had a child with. Now, he is with some other woman and he does not even live in this apartment, but he pays the rent of about CHF16,000/month.

The kids from the first marriage live here with the Brazilian woman and her kid, and the first wife's older brother who seems to be a chauffer for the rest of them. The reason I think it's them is because I have heard lots of horror stories about them from another neighbor in the building, AND from the uncle who is also very strange. The teenage boy has burned cigarette butts on the neighbor's mercedez, he has threatened him with a gun, he stole someone's very nice car and went for a hi-speed ride and got caught, and on and on....

We did call the police, they said the fingerprints are not perfect! The thieves were very nice, they only took money and were careful to move plants so they don't make a mess!!
I was in a state of shock last night when we got home from a five day trip to Italy , I went over to the neighbor's house and told him I think it was his kids who broke into our home, he kicked me out. Now, I feel badly about it so I will apologize to him when I see him.

We decided, on top of everything else we don't like about Zurich, this just about did it, so we are moving in April...What can one do??

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Old 26.11.2007, 17:12
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I'm so sorry to hear of your burglaries. What a bad end to a nice trip to Italy. You don't mention how the intruders get into your home - do they force the lock or break a window, for example?

Do the other neighbours in the area have the same kind of trouble or is it just your family?

I'm sorry, I can't offer much advice but this is such a horror story I just wanted to sympathise!

I would push the matter with the police, it doesn't sound to me that they did a very thorough job.

Good luck and I hope you find somewhere new to live quickly.
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Old 26.11.2007, 17:16
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Install a web cam like a character on here called HAT did and record the next break-in...
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how are they getting in? You're a ground-floor apartment, right?
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I went over to the neighbor's house and told him I think it was his kids who broke into our home, he kicked me out.
I would have kicked you out as well. Without proof you can't go accusing people.

How is nationality of the lady (Brazilian) relevant? A man is free to have a relationship with anyone he wants. Unless you were indirectly/directly suggesting that Brazilian = greater chance of being a thief?

I am sorry that you are going through this nightmare and in the end your suspicions might turn out to be 100% accurate but go easy on that trigger.

Judge your neighbours based on what you observe yourself and not on hearsay. I have been at the receiving end of some shitty attitude based on assumptions and cooked up stories.
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Re: Burglary

Sorry Gunter,I did not mean to imply anything by saying Brazilian, his first wife is Persian...and I am not a true blue American myself! That did not even enter my mind. I am so the other way...

Thanks everyone, I just needed some sympathy!
They broke into our place through the window...they must have used a ladder to climb up...another reason to assume it is coming from someone in the neighborhood is whoever did it, had to have known the neighborhood, I am on the first floor but all those windows' shutters were down. The place is on a sloping hill so they had to put a ladder in front of another unit to get to the window they used. They broke the lock on the window and walked in and out of the same window. It's complicated to explain but they cut the lock in the window.
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They broke into our place through the window...they must have used a ladder to climb up...another reason to assume it is coming from someone in the neighborhood is whoever did it, had to have known the neighborhood, I am on the first floor but all those windows' shutters were down. The place is on a sloping hill so they had to put a ladder in front of another unit to get to the window they used. They broke the lock on the window and walked in and out of the same window. It's complicated to explain but they cut the lock in the window.
That sounds quite 'professional', especially if you didn't leave the money laying around on a table.
I wouldn't say it's the tipical modus operandi of some neighbours kids, neither any junkie.
Don't be to surprised about the second burglary. If they had an easy job the first time, they likely try it again after some time, or at least they check if it became more difficult.

And for the reaction of the police: I think catching burglars is anything but a quick job. If I were police, I wouldn't give you to much hope either.

Maybe you should get some advice to prevent further surprises of the same kind. You could use the crime prevention counsel of the police: http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/internet.../beratung.html.
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Re: Burglary

Juliew no problem. I talk gibberish anyway so don't take it to heart :-)

You should lay a trap for the the burglar. Act as if you are going on holiday again. Make a big fuss of packing all your stuff for hoilday. Get your husband to leave the house with dressed up dummies in the car. We can then play the waiting game in the house armed with sawn off shotguns. Video the idiots breaking in.

Ok jokes aside I am dissapointed that the police are not doing something similar for you.
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Gunter, I actually thought about that! But I need to leave a shutter up so they see it...I may still do it...I would LOVE to catch them, whomever they are.
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Re: Burglary

Julie,

These guys are coming in your home when you are not there. My suggestion to you would be to go to IKEA and to buy some timers for your lamps and radio. Burglars are less likely break in your place if a light is on or some music is playing. So set your radio to be on during the day when you are on trips and set the light to come on from about 5.30 in the evening till around 11.30 at night. Just give the impression that you are around. Also try to get somebody trustworthy to pick up your mail.

Hope that helps,
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Old 27.11.2007, 07:43
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I once got back to my apartment in Zurich to find it being burgled - cops called and to be fair they were there in about 2 mins - trouble is they went for the direct approach, guns out, frontal assault, lots of noise - and the bad guys went out the back as the the cops went in the front. They caught them going over the border at Basel and the neighbours got their stuff back. They declined to take anything from my apartment and there's a message there, not sure what it is.

Anyway, I digress, back to the op. It looks like you made the decision to move anyway but if you did stay put then try the webcam suggestion and/or fit a burglar alarm?
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Old 27.11.2007, 12:17
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Re: Burglary

The OP isn't the only one who was robbed recently. Over the weekend some friends of mine were out of town and when they came back their flat had been broken into in a similar manner, as had their neighbors. I think there was just a group of pro's out this weekend looking for money and jewelry as they didn't take anything else of value, not even a laptop sitting in plain sight.
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Old 27.11.2007, 12:38
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Re: Burglary

to compound Chem's post - at the time of the year when the clocks change, burglars do seem to come out to play.

Maybe it's worth putting a different thread together for people to post the basic methods used to gain entry - plus what was stolen?
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Old 27.11.2007, 21:57
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Re: Burglary

One of my Swiss friends told me that Zurichberg is the burglary hot spot of Zurich due to all the rich people that live there. I have no idea how true this is but in a way it makes sense since there are a lot of houses rather than apartments there that are empty all day long while the owners are out at work.
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Re: Burglary

Just need a little vent.

So, I moved here to be with my partner. He broke up with me and I spent almost 3 months looking for a flat. Finally got one (one I love, too), due to start moving in this evening (got the keys on Friday but with no car have had to rely on help from friends with vehicles) and got a call from my new landlady saying someone had broken in this morning. The f***ers, having seen that there was literally nothing there to steal, just broke the door down and then buggered off. Thanks for delaying the move I've been waiting so long for. Oh yeah, and for making me feel insecure in my brand new home. S***HEADS.

Wish I could get my hands on them, petty, shitty little wastes of space.
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Just need a little vent.

So, I moved here to be with my partner. He broke up with me and I spent almost 3 months looking for a flat. Finally got one (one I love, too), due to start moving in this evening (got the keys on Friday but with no car have had to rely on help from friends with vehicles) and got a call from my new landlady saying someone had broken in this morning. The f***ers, having seen that there was literally nothing there to steal, just broke the door down and then buggered off. Thanks for delaying the move I've been waiting so long for. Oh yeah, and for making me feel insecure in my brand new home. S***HEADS.

Wish I could get my hands on them, petty, shitty little wastes of space.
The good news are that you were'nt in there yet, so your stuff is safe, they now know nothing is the be taken there and you can now make this place safer!

All good news, really!
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Well, not all good news but every cloud has a silver lining and all that. Don't think I haven't been telling myself I was lucky I hadn't moved anything in yet!
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Re: Burglary

When my place was broken in to a few weeks ago, they also broke into 4 other flats in this block (and then some more in a block down the road). I think two of the ones they broke into here were empty. One waslet but the tenant hadn't moved in, and one was just being renovated.

It's quite random, and at least they broke your door before you moved in. Won't come off your insurance, which my door did! Make sure the landlord fixes it properly.
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That's awful. So sorry. It happened to me when I moved into my new apartment in Brussels after flat sharing forever. I have moved in 8 or 9 boxes and was going over to bring another one. The worst is that I pretty much saw him going down the stairs! I just didn't realize until later.

There wasn't much in there except clothes, books, kitchen stuff. But they found & stole my gameboy (bastards!) and my ex-bf's grandfather's wedding ring that was mixed in with a bunch of costume jewelry, which means they went through everything with a fine tooth comb to have found that box & the ring within that box! It was the only thing of real gold/silver in there.

*I wrote "they" but if it was the person I saw leaving quickly down the stairs it was a "he".

Anyway, good thing was that it never happened again. Do check with your neighbors though.

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We have been robbed twice since we moved to our apartment in Zurichberg (isn't Zurichberg supposed to be a good area?)...I have a feeling it's the son of one of our neighbors who is breaking in, but of course I can not prove it.

They broke in the first week we moved in last October, then they broke in sometime last week while we were out of town. I am so angry but there is nothing I can not. The father is a very wealthy lawyer (I heard he lost his license, but I am not 100% sure, yet). He is divorced from his first wife, had three kids...then had a relationship with a Brazilian woman whom he had a child with. Now, he is with some other woman and he does not even live in this apartment, but he pays the rent of about CHF16,000/month.

The kids from the first marriage live here with the Brazilian woman and her kid, and the first wife's older brother who seems to be a chauffer for the rest of them. The reason I think it's them is because I have heard lots of horror stories about them from another neighbor in the building, AND from the uncle who is also very strange. The teenage boy has burned cigarette butts on the neighbor's mercedez, he has threatened him with a gun, he stole someone's very nice car and went for a hi-speed ride and got caught, and on and on....

We did call the police, they said the fingerprints are not perfect! The thieves were very nice, they only took money and were careful to move plants so they don't make a mess!!
I was in a state of shock last night when we got home from a five day trip to Italy , I went over to the neighbor's house and told him I think it was his kids who broke into our home, he kicked me out. Now, I feel badly about it so I will apologize to him when I see him.

We decided, on top of everything else we don't like about Zurich, this just about did it, so we are moving in April...What can one do??
Your feeling may be right, but I doubt it. Usually burglars do their "business" in other quarters and not just around the corner

That the Züriberg is a "good quarter" is the understatement of the day. In the rest of Zürich, the Züriberg is regarded as the Snoberria-corner of Zürich
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