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I agree, and I've been through exactly what you are going through (in an apartment in Canada). Sadly, the only real solution was moving.

In the meantime, try to seal all the cracks between the walls, floors, and baseboards. Electrical outlets are also a common place for air to leak. Of course, ask your landlord to do this first, and if he refuses, then take matters into your own hands. Maybe hire a professional so it is done 'professionally' and you don't get dinged for damages/modifications when you move out. It would be a good idea to consult with the Mieterverband about how to carry out this 'sealing' process.

The problem in our place was with the front door to the shared hallway. We applied weather-stripping all around the door, a door sweep, and then used caulk to seal around the baseboards. It made a huge difference. Went from smelling like someone was smoking in our apartment, to only having the smoke smell when we opened our door.

Good luck, and I hope you can find a way to prevent the smoke from entering your apartment.

Thanks Amazonna. I really appreciate your sympathy and your help. The smoke seems to come from one corner in particular which then floods the room. I may have to pay myself to get it fixed for my peace of mind and sanity, and hopefully it works.
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In Australia (where i am from) most leases forbid smoking. Obvisouly things are different here.
Another Aussie hi.

Anyway, I've had similar problems - can't help you with this one but I would say that it's your health at stake here. I hope you do get it sorted but, if you don't, if you end up moving and finding somewhere where no-smoking is stipulated in the paperwork then so much the better. Smoke anywhere in your house is bad enough, but in the bedroom? No-no-no-no. Moving may be a hassle but you'll get through it quickly enough.

It is very different here. And if the landlord finds someone else quickly, well if they're willing to live with smoke, that's their lookout.
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Which is fair enough.

But my point remains. The neighbours may try and smoke in kitchen, but why should they. Personally, I smoke outside anyway, most of the time, but I would never entertain a request from my neighbour to smoke somewhere else in my apartment.

The landlord may say he will have a look, speak to neighbours or whatever, but if this is a structural issue he is not going to fix it in any hurry if at all. HE may, but I would say it is very unlikely. He will see how long you put up with it, and you wil either do that or move, and he will replace you with one of the 30 people in the que. The cycle will repeat until no one wants the place because of smell of smoke, which will never happen.

Its unfortunate for those who have been conditioned enough to really detest smoke, as its so popular in many forms that you create yourselves so much stress and frustration.

I can understand why you think its not ok, but I also think from a practical stand point, that it will have to be if you are not prepared to move as your fighting a high probable losing battle.
Maye im too nice or considerate..if my neighbours were bothered by my smoking i would do what i could to help out. I think when you live in such small living spaces that people should try and work together, and be friends.

I dont plan to move, well at least not until my lease is up in 8 months...si am going to contact the Mietverband and take it from there.
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Re: Smoking issue from neighbours

On other news...

I was stuck in the Gubrist tunnel this morning after a inconsiderate AG plated Range Rover was playing bumper cars with two other victims stuck in the morning traffic.

The fumes in there were unbelievable, as it's such a huge risk to my health to breathe these toxic fumes should I leave my car while stationary and place bananas up everyone's exhaust pipe within the vicinity?

Just wondering, who dies first in a sealed garage? The person with the car engine running, or the person throwing a party with 50 smokers? Think about it...Overblown risks and "when the book suits."

Seriously, Paddy G shows the way to go and good luck with it. Welcome to Switzerland not part of fascist California/Australia/UK * Delete as applicable.
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On other news...

I was stuck in the Gubrist tunnel this morning after a inconsiderate AG plated Range Rover was playing bumper cars with two other victims stuck in the morning traffic.

The fumes in there were unbelievable, as it's such a huge risk to my health to breathe these toxic fumes should I leave my car while stationary and place bananas up everyone's exhaust pipe within the vicinity?

Just wondering, who dies first in a sealed garage? The person with the car engine running, or the person throwing a party with 50 smokers? Think about it...Overblown risks and "when the book suits."

Seriously, Paddy G shows the way to go and good luck with it. Welcome to Switzerland not part of fascist California/Australia/UK * Delete as applicable.
No recycle button on your car's ventilation system then??
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No recycle button on your car's ventilation system then??
Particles too small to get trapped by filters smart arse.
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place bananas up everyone's exhaust pipe within the vicinity?
That would be a hoot to see...

Bananas flying everywhere...

It would be like a paintball arena, but with bananas!
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Particles too small to get trapped by filters smart arse.
It's not a filter...
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It's not a filter...
Nothing changes Abfab still unable to find humour

*** Air from outside pulled in via climate control and filtering...Recycle button hit, recycles cabin air via internal filter system.***

Depends which car you have mine has x2 filter systems. Hitting recycle now means you send a loop of fumes around the cabin.
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Sorry but with all due respect, I don`t buy that - in fact that is a typical EF answer . . the `Put up or shut up` brigade.
Option 3, which I think the Op wants to do, is to try and get something done about it.
As PaddyG said - this is not a smoking issue - this is a structural issue and the Op has every right to try and get it put right. If we just put up or shut up - then nothing will ever change.
Mabye you are right and it may be a fruitless exercise - but if it were me I would at least challenge it. At least if nothing comes of it, you can be satisfied with having tried.
Yeah I acknowledge that fact but the reality is nothing willl change. The landlord is highly unlikely to invest the time and money in fixing some problematic structural issue that is allowing the smell of smoke to reach the above apartment. It would likely be a painstaking trial and error process that still might not satisfy the most sensitive of anti smokers.

Of course they have every right to try, but good luck with that.

Which is why I say, realistically, there are two options. Get used to it or move, as the solution of smoke free will be a long drawn out process that may not even be achievable or entertained by the powers that be.

But sure, worth a try.
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Maye im too nice or considerate..if my neighbours were bothered by my smoking i would do what i could to help out. I think when you live in such small living spaces that people should try and work together, and be friends.

I dont plan to move, well at least not until my lease is up in 8 months...si am going to contact the Mietverband and take it from there.
You dont smoke so you can not even use that analogy.

If I chose to smoke in my house, in my living room, and my neighbours somehow got whiffs of it, and said could I smoke in my kitchen or somewhere else of course I would say no and I think most people would be the same. Its their issue, not mine.

Why shuld one need to have to get up from watching a film or drinking with guests or whatever, just becuase smoke might drift somewhere thats not of their concern, when they are smoking in their own home. Its not a case of being too nice or considerate its a case of your the one with the issue, be it with structural or personal dislikes and it is you that needs to find a solution, which I know you are trying to do, and the solution is not asking the neighbors to smoke elsewhere as they are in their home where they can choose to smoke wherever, and will of course smoke wherever they choose, as is their right.
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If you think the floor doesn't meet building standards...Ask for an inspector from the Baukontrolle to have a look; I noticed it said ZH as your local, not sure if you meant Kt. or city of Zurich...

http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content/...auabnahme.html
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We're not in Canada, in case you haven't noticed.

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Oh I've noticed all right....................not as many smartarses in Canada!

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Re: Smoking issue from neighbours

I have a similar problem.. whenever my neighbour smokes and I happen to take a shower in my bathroom at the same time, I can smell the smoke from the vent.. it's horrible since I dont tolerate smoking.. also the neighbours who dont have a balcony, they just smoke in the hallways and in front of the elevator .. luckily I dont have to put up with this much longer..
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Oh I've noticed all right....................not as many smartarses in Canada!
Yeah I heard Canadians were bit dense too

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Yeah I heard Candaians were bit dense too
But most can spell/type accurately
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whenever my neighbour smokes and I happen to take a shower in my bathroom at the same time, I can smell the smoke from the vent
Then you have problems with your vent, as smell should go out, not in!

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I completely agree that someone else will put up with it........but sorry im not prepared to.
I never said that they were doing anything wrong in their own home, i really just want some advice on how to get it fixed.
Its not okay to have to deal with this problem. If people smoke outside or in a bar fair enough i have to put up with the smoke, but i shouldnt have to in my own house. I dont smoke, nor do i want to.

Yes, they probably do pay alot of money to live there also, but as far as i know they dont have any problems. They live on the ground floor, so no issue for people living below them.
It is absolutely a structural issue......
Maybe placing carpet in the room might help...or is there carpet already? The carpet may help to prevent the smell coming into your room. However, I hope you would not end up with a carpet smelling of smoke! In fact, your landlord would probably pay for it, it is worth a try...I hope you can work the problem out. When you are a non-smoker the smoke smell is more intense as well.
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I have a similar problem.. whenever my neighbour smokes and I happen to take a shower in my bathroom at the same time, I can smell the smoke from the vent.. it's horrible since I dont tolerate smoking.. also the neighbours who dont have a balcony, they just smoke in the hallways and in front of the elevator .. luckily I dont have to put up with this much longer..
I have a similar issue with public toilets when the guy next to me drops a huge load.

Should I politely knock on the wall and ask for clear the air flush? Or should I come equipped with a gas mask?

Sorry I'm stuck with this one for life..
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