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Old 03.10.2006, 14:06
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Re: Sh*tty neighbours

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I do have had some bad experiences with some neighbours, but I would like to say many Swiss and non-swiss people living in CH, tend to be nice and polite and even do wonderful expected things for me.

However, let me tell another case of "shittiness".
There is another case of a smoking marijuana neighbour (just moved in from Germany but he is not real German descent) and he smokes at 6am and 6pm every day. We moved to our present home, because of him.

However in that same apartment house (138years old), there were some very nice neighbours and the hauswart (housekeeper) was very very pleasant too (he is not original swiss). We were sad to move, but for our baby's and our health, we moved in middle of WINTER 2005.

Now, in this present home, everyone seems friendly in the first 12 months. Then the incident of intrusion. Then the complaint about my son running around. Then the water plants incident (did I mention the automning petals are all over my balcony now, I have to sweep them daily?), it makes my heart painful to see such bitter people. Did I mention the same mad woman played Italian opera at full volume at 1030pm? My son and us could not sleep.

In the same building, we made some friends. We also met a FOREIGNER family in the next block, but they told me they had similar "rules" imposed on them, unofficially but directly.

So, I am still looking for nice neighbours who can babysit my children, cook soup for me when I am sick, offer to wash my car when it gets too dirty, etc etc. But up to now, I am still looking....let me know if you know such a neighbourhood, cos I will move there.

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So, I am still looking for nice neighbours who can babysit my children, cook soup for me when I am sick, offer to wash my car when it gets too dirty, etc etc. But up to now, I am still looking....let me know if you know such a neighbourhood, cos I will move there.

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with respect, I have lived in lots of places in the US, where I am from, as well as the UK. I think you may have quite high expectations for your neighbours. In my experience one needs to know people for many years to get this kind of closeness (not saying there aren't exceptions, but in general).

Have you read the book "Beyond Chocolate"? It is really helpful in terms of giving insights about Swiss culture, from the perspective of expats/foreigners who have lived there. The roots of conflict are often found in not understanding each other's cultures. Specifically they talk about the Swiss culture as being a coconut culture. I think if you read that you would have more understanding about why your Swiss neighbours aren't offering to watch your children, or bring you food when you are ill.
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Old 03.10.2006, 17:20
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You're expecting a lot from your neighbours, especially since you mentioned previously somewhere about being a private sort of person. What makes you think they will do these things for you? Perhaps you would for them, but they don't know that. Maybe lead by example and bring some soup around to the Opera playing water/leaf vandal and offer it with a smile. Or something with a feminine element for Mr Taxi downstairs - seems like he lives alone, and cherry pie is always welcome. Does the Hauswart get any positive attention? Obviously I don't know how you are with these people, but acting friendly isn't enough to build relationships - it's an atomised society despite the uniformity. No-one's going to wash you car for you, though
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I don't want to give you a hard time as I really to sympathise with your troubles and it does sound like you've got some rotten neighbours but...
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Then the water plants incident (did I mention the automning petals are all over my balcony now, I have to sweep them daily?),
Thats just one of these things... We have a little garden and our neighbours dog regularly relieves himself in our garden. Its disgusting and irritates me but at the end of the day, what am I going to do? Collect the doggy doodo and place it at her front door every time?

Petals falling in autumn is as sure as death and taxes and just falls under normal house maintenance.

I commend Uncle Max, I think cherry pie is always welcome I've lived in my current appartment for about 2.5 years and only now am I slowely getting to know the neighbours. Most keep themselves to themselves but a couple of them I've got to know well now and its really nice to actually have someone to ask if you've run out of sugar

There are some lovely neighbours around. I had great ones in my first appartment. I was working night shifts in the Uni Spital and the little old lady living next door to me used to do my laundry for me. All because I brought her homemade mince pies at christmas...
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Re: Sh*tty neighbours

The written word can sometime be so misinterpreted.


So, I am still looking for nice neighbours who can babysit my children, cook soup for me when I am sick, offer to wash my car when it gets too dirty, etc etc. But up to now, I am still looking....let me know if you know such a neighbourhood, cos I will move there.


Let me put it plainly, this was just a clowning around joke, maybe even trying to be sarcastic. It is a "joke" , get it?

Yes I know I should and can lead by example. I do understand the differences in culture, and so on.

However, I can categorically say the woman who lives upstairs, hates me (she said it in plain English), although I was asking her politely to check her plants. She also pre-cursed my unborn child, that she will keep crying at night. She also insisted to speak Swiss german, when she is 100% capable of speaking in English (this is sure sign of bullying). She also said I must learn to speak swiss if I want to talk to her (another sign of anti-foreigner). She told me to "get out" after inviting me in to inspect her plants, and I showed her where the water was.

The neighbour downstairs, i still sympathise with him. However if you have seen him, stinking of alcohol, standing in my doorway at 11am, threatening my wife, who was holding my 1 week old baby in her arms. You get the picture. Swiss culture or caveman culture, it is simply rude and unforgiveable. He came at least 10 times (every sunday). Finally the police stopped him.

These are EXTREME cases, so I write them here, with strong words.
I did not say SWISS are all bad, or NEIGHBOURS are all shitty.

SOME are.
I met SOME.

Hope this clears up the air.
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Let me put it plainly, this was just a clowning around joke, maybe even trying to be sarcastic. It is a "joke" , get it?
Ahh, now you have discovered one of th "charms" of communicating in forums and groups where you are dependent on the written word. In my experience you need to go to greater lengths when attempting to poke fun or be sarcastic.

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I do understand the differences in culture, and so on.

She also insisted to speak Swiss german, when she is 100% capable of speaking in English (this is sure sign of bullying). She also said I must learn to speak swiss if I want to talk to her (another sign of anti-foreigner). She told me to "get out" after inviting me in to inspect her plants, and I showed her where the water was.
Sorry, but I disagree that you understand the Swiss. Your comments above show me that. If you would read the book I suggested, you would understand where your neighbour is coming from culturally and realise how you are being perceived which is fundamental to getting along with those of another culture. With respect, you come across as expecting everyone to adapt to you. You are a "guest" in this country until you naturalise, if you are eligible to so choose. You don't win friends by not making an attempt to understand the culture you have come to live in. It sounds to me like your neighbour is as frustrated with you as you are with her.

My husband is Swiss, my mother-in-law is Swiss. I can tell you from personal experience, that unless you develop an understanding of Swiss culture, which I do not feel from your comments that you have, you are going to continue to be angry and out of sorts, and feel ill-treated by those you encounter. Not saying all Swiss are nice - in any culture there are nice people and not-nice ones. But I am saying that your comments lead me to believe that you are getting upset about things based on how you are interpreting behaviours that sound "Normal" to me according to Swiss standards of interaction - again - the "coconut culture" idea presented in the book I referenced above. If you understood that, you would understand why your neighbour behaved as she did about the plants etc.

I wish you the best in your future in Switzerland.
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My husband is Swiss, my mother-in-law is Swiss. I can tell you from personal experience, that unless you develop an understanding of Swiss culture, which I do not feel from your comments that you have, you are going to continue to be angry and out of sorts, and feel ill-treated by those you encounter. Not saying all Swiss are nice - in any culture there are nice people and not-nice ones. But I am saying that your comments lead me to believe that you are getting upset about things based on how you are interpreting behaviours that sound "Normal" to me according to Swiss standards of interaction - again - the "coconut culture" idea presented in the book I referenced above. If you understood that, you would understand why your neighbour behaved as she did about the plants etc.
While I completely agree with you about learning about the culture you're living in, in order to best adapt to it, I think just accepting things and letting people roll over you isn't the way to do it, either.

If I were HAT, I'd think about moving - but that's also a time consuming, life altering and expensive proposition.

In the US, I once had a nasty, mentally ill neighbor who lived downstairs. She believed I was evil incarnate because I (quite legally, mind you) vacuumed on Christmas day. She became vindictive against me and eventually came to my door and tried to bash her way and in beat me up, giving me one hell of a bruised wrist in the process. Fortunately, another neighbor saw this and yelled at her - long enough for me to close the door and her to go away. The cops did nothing then, nor when they had to physically restrain her from attacking me outside our building (not sure what her reason was that day). The landlord didn't do anything, despite me making a formal complaint and having virtually every single tenant in our building sign a petition asking for her to be evicted. It wasn't until she tried to run a neighbor over in the very narrow alley-like driveway (nowhere to jump out of the way) that she finally was evicted. I was afraid to be inside my apartment (I was too loud if I so much as sneezed) or outside my apartment (I had to walk past her apartment...and then there's where she trapped me in the garage...)

Physical abuse and emotional abuse have the same effect on people, except the scars from physical abuse often go away. Passive-aggressive and bullying behavior is emotional abuse, and it shouldn't be tolerated. Even if it is "normal" behavior for a particular society or part thereof.
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Sorry, but I disagree that you understand the Swiss. Your comments above show me that. If you would read the book I suggested, you would understand where your neighbour is coming from culturally and realise how you are being perceived which is fundamental to getting along with those of another culture. With respect, you come across as expecting everyone to adapt to you. You are a "guest" in this country until you naturalise, if you are eligible to so choose. You don't win friends by not making an attempt to understand the culture you have come to live in. It sounds to me like your neighbour is as frustrated with you as you are with her.
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I feel compelled to write a reply, when my right hand column tells me to shut up.

I am 100% certain my neighbour is frustrated with me, but she has a problem known to most other neighbours, she lost her husband at about starting of 2005. She is living alone. She plays Italian opera music at 1030pm at full volume. Huh?

I never once said I understood SWISS. I only implied I understand the woman upstairs, who happen to be swiss, and displayed some behaviour which I described to my swiss friends and colleagues, and THEY explained to me, that she is most likely anti-foreigner.

BTW, I like to win friends, but I do not wish (even though many times I wanted to shake hands and be friends with her, cos I quite pity her really), after she screamed and shouted during our last encounter. And bascially 1 thing, I cannot tell a Swiss person, that she is wrong (or may be wrong), in a home which she bought, and I am just a renter. MANY Swiss people told me this.

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My husband is Swiss, my mother-in-law is Swiss. I can tell you from personal experience, that unless you develop an understanding of Swiss culture, which I do not feel from your comments that you have, you are going to continue to be angry and out of sorts, and feel ill-treated by those you encounter. Not saying all Swiss are nice - in any culture there are nice people and not-nice ones. But I am saying that your comments lead me to believe that you are getting upset about things based on how you are interpreting behaviours that sound "Normal" to me according to Swiss standards of interaction - again - the "coconut culture" idea presented in the book I referenced above. If you understood that, you would understand why your neighbour behaved as she did about the plants etc.

I wish you the best in your future in Switzerland.
I will try to read that book, thanks for the hint.

Being married to a swiss family does have its advantages and you will have a slightly different perspective. Call it familiarity biase? Yes, you may know some insights and your in-laws tell you things or explain things to you.

Let me give you another true example. My ex-neighbour bought a house, she is Indian (not swiss at all). Her new neighbour in new row-house, started to tell her rules that she made up. Her son is restricted to noise making, for example. Cannot plant this, and that.

And my friend was exasperated. Until she told this person, she is owner of the home, this swiss person stopped being rude and demanding, and actually became friendlier.

Now, maybe I am over sensitive or over generalising. When a local (Swiss) discover that you are here for good (like in your case), they will treat you better and show you "humane" behaviour. When they know not for sure, if you are staying forever or just taking away their jobs, then they treat you like an enemy, and tell you funny rule THEY make up.
Umm...2 swiss friends confirmed this understanding.

When I asked the policeman about the Sunday quiet thing, he told me, I have all rights to LIVE normally. He told me to ignore the man, or ask the man to telephone him (the policeman in my town).

When I asked people if watering plants is ok, they told me it is socially impolite, although there is no house rules. Funny thing is, whenever I wash the balcony, I go downstairs to ask the neighbour for permission.

Before I attempted to argue with the neighbours, I actually consulted at least 3 swiss friends in office for their opinion. They all said I should make myself known, or forever keep quiet and be bullied.

Thanks for your post, I believe you want the best for me.

I will never understand the swiss, nor do I like them to understand me. Watering over my clothes in my balcony, playing loud music after 10pm, insisting that my son is super quiet, it is not culture, it is demands made to an unsuspecting foreigner "guest".

My expectations are not high, to me at least.

There is a saying in Chinese, "never sweep your snow infront of your door, onto your neighbour's door. "
I like to be like Jesus, turn the other cheek. But to do it how many times? Peter asked... 7 X 7....

I like to be left alone too, you know?

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While I completely agree with you about learning about the culture you're living in, in order to best adapt to it, I think just accepting things and letting people roll over you isn't the way to do it, either.

If I were HAN, I'd think about moving - but that's also a time consuming, life altering and expensive proposition.

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Physical abuse and emotional abuse have the same effect on people, except the scars from physical abuse often go away. Passive-aggressive and bullying behavior is emotional abuse, and it shouldn't be tolerated. Even if it is "normal" behvaior for a particular society or part thereof.
Thanks.....
i thought i was the "crazy" one.
Many of my friends are NOT surprised when I describe these events to them. Some of them are foreigners, many are SWISS too.

They also asked me to move.....funny, is it swiss culture to move and keep quiet about abusive neighbours? That's it right? Move and I become more "swiss"...

Like ALI G says "respekk"....

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Hi,

Does this thread end already?

I have a same problem, and I've created another thread to reduce the traffic here.
One neighbour complains about our noise

Thanks for sharing ideas

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Neighbours are neighbours. There are good ones and bad ones... just like people. I have a habit of getting up all hours of the night to use the bathroom (and I can't possibly NOT flush!) and I haven't had any neighbours complain about me yet, thank goodness... they're pretty tolerant.

I wouldn't say I have bad neighbours but the family living upstairs sometimes drive me up the wall! But I leave them alone. I "assume" that the wife/daughter/sister (woman) living there has some issues, possibly a mental illness. She regularly (probably once or twice a week) screams, shouts and has awful tantrums/episodes where we can hear her running around as if being chased, toppling furniture, breaking furniture, trying to jump out the 3rd floor window, crying and wailing and generally sounding like she's being murdered... sometimes you also hear struggling as if someone was wrestling her to the ground. But obviously she isn't being murdered because you hear other softer voices trying to speak with her calmly.

These episodes happen any time of day or night, it can be early morning, in the afternoon, or at 2am! Waking the residents of the whole building. I haven't personally done anything about it even though they live directly above me. The first time we heard all that noise though I was horrified... naturally thinking first of domestic violence. But just as I was going upstairs to find out what was going on, I saw their next door neighbour go over to investigate so I left it alone. Some nights other irritated neighbours ring their doorbell and all the commotion stops. I've gotten more or less accustomed to the drama. There are times when it can happen multiple times in a day, or everyday for a week, then it's quiet for a month or so and it all begins again. I'd prefer to stay out of it and I honestly do believe it's not abuse going on upstairs.

On the other hand I have some pretty lovely neighbours across the hall from us, who regularly signs for parcels and bring them upstairs if they encounter the postman/woman or courier at the door. When I first moved in, there was an elderly lady who spoke no English who showed me how to operate the washing machine properly. Also there was an old woman next door who was so worried I would be offended that some of the leaves and flowers from her geraniums on the balcony were encroaching into our space that she came over personally to apologise. Just a couple of flowers growing past the barrier that separated the balconies. She was so relieved to find that I liked the flowers peeking over
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I moved.
I am OWNER of my home now.
So i can "talk" to the neighbours on equal footing.

It is "expensive" but worth it!

PS: Not everyone can afford this solution.
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Our latest complaint is that the smell of our cooking drifts upstairs through the toilet The woman whose life I destroyed came and told me last night that I make her feel sick when I cook every day and that the smell doesn't come via the balcony but up through the toilet. I think she may be slightly unbalanced to be honest. To keep the peace I said I would turn the extractor fan on five minutes before I start cooking and put some paper over the toilet seat to minimise the disruption to her olfactory senses.
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Our latest complaint is that the smell of our cooking drifts upstairs through the toilet The woman whose life I destroyed came and told me last night that I make her feel sick when I cook every day and that the smell doesn't come via the balcony but up through the toilet. I think she may be slightly unbalanced to be honest. To keep the peace I said I would turn the extractor fan on five minutes before I start cooking and put some paper over the toilet seat to minimise the disruption to her olfactory senses.
So how come she doesn't go apoplectic over the more, err.. common smells coming from the toilet?
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Our latest complaint is that the smell of our cooking drifts upstairs through the toilet The woman whose life I destroyed came and told me last night that I make her feel sick when I cook every day and that the smell doesn't come via the balcony but up through the toilet. I think she may be slightly unbalanced to be honest. To keep the peace I said I would turn the extractor fan on five minutes before I start cooking and put some paper over the toilet seat to minimise the disruption to her olfactory senses.
Time to make her a foil hat... (Not HAT)
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Sandgrounder, we are a truly fragrent family and anyone who suggests that we are not will be subjected to a dutch oven by my 7 year old.
Ab fab, maybe I can use the newspaper that I removed from the toilet to make her a little paper hat instead. It's all about recycling you know.
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Our latest complaint is that the smell of our cooking drifts upstairs through the toilet The woman whose life I destroyed came and told me last night that I make her feel sick when I cook every day and that the smell doesn't come via the balcony but up through the toilet. I think she may be slightly unbalanced to be honest. To keep the peace I said I would turn the extractor fan on five minutes before I start cooking and put some paper over the toilet seat to minimise the disruption to her olfactory senses.

She is not crazy. Smells do travel via the toilet ducts (not the WC itself).
I used to get this problem from my old rented apartment too. No kidding.

What you can do is: close the toilet door when cooking.

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Sandgrounder, we are a truly fragrent family and anyone who suggests that we are not will be subjected to a dutch oven by my 7 year old.
Good job our family isn't living in your place then!

Dutch oven?
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Re: Sh*tty neighbours

well we have recently had a letter to all residents in our block regarding BBQ's on the balcony. The letter was clear as mud.

We are allowed to have BBQ's on our balconies as long as we do not disturb our neighbours with cooking smells or smoke. Hmm so how exactly do you stop cooking smells from your BBQ?

With smoke ok you can only cook reduced fat items. I find sausages including Merguez (hmm my favourite) tend to smoke a lot even with the gas turned right down as they are quite fatty. My wife now wants us to stop having BBQ' just in case it was us who upset the neighbours.

I can also certainly empathize with those people with small children living with neighbours below them. We have a son nearly three who runs everywhere and makes lots of noise. Noise in our block tends to run in an up / down direction. We can hear things in the apartments upstairs and down but not from either side. Fortunately for us the apartment downstairs have 3 kids and make far more noise than our one on his own could or though he tries bless him.

It's a fact of life that we all have to live together noise or not. The alternatives are to designate blocks which are for non families. I always worry when we get new neighbours and back in the UK we had far more trouble with them than we ever have here. If neighbours are going to have late night parties I don't mind as long as they either A. Invite us or B. Pre warn us and ensure that it is only rare that this happens.

On yet another note, my brother in law and his Girlfriend have recently moved into an apartment in Montey Valais. Only to find after moving in they have the neighbour from hell living upstairs. She' apparently has more than the odd screw loose inside her head and has reportedly been evicted from 3 other apartments in the last two years. The first signs of trouble they have seen are her dumping rubbish onto there balcony. all the other neighbours have warned them to stay as far away from her as possible.
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It's a fact of life that we all have to live together noise or not. The alternatives are to designate blocks which are for non families.
this is very untrue with 'families', the risk of noise is kids/baby, which you could still pray for out of noise pollution if the parents educate them well. With "non-families", you risk yourself to more different forms of noise pollution, loud music, bands, party, late home/bathroom time, which you could hardly expect them to compromise.
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