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How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

After living here 5 years and from being yelled at by random strangers so many times for minor offences such as forgetting to use my towel in the gym sauna, rolling my bike on an empty sidewalk, crossing the street where youre not supposed to cross, etc, I have come to a conclusion:

The Swiss are unique in the way they police each other.

They apply an absolute zero tolerance and will approach you in a way other people would usually approach someone who keep repeating the same bad behavior and you've simply had enough.

From where im from, playing the parent to a random adult in the street can and will lead to a broken nose - but not here.

They skip the "friendly reminder" step and skip straight to "don't do that, that is unacceptable!!"

Anyone else noticed this?
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Old 25.07.2013, 12:41
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

Yep.

But with each F*%K OFF, we are all doing our part to change the way this country functions. Soon, Utopia will have formed and will be quite the perfect place.

Until then, thick skin, broad shoulders, and plenty of abuse to do gooders.
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

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Old 25.07.2013, 12:48
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LOL, i swear to god one day i will do just that.

Being yelled at by a random older naked guy in the gym spa definitely brought me closer to the edge.
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Old 25.07.2013, 12:50
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

Well I hear you ... but that is because I have an autistic child who can often exhibit strange behaviour and particularly behaviour caused by stress or anxiety but which exhibits itself as screaming/anger.

It got to a stage early last summer when I literally avoided going out with him because I was so stressed by his behaviour which was further compounded by random strangers' complaints and worse still, accusations of bad parenting. People sure know how to hit you when you're down.

We moved last August to la Suisse Romande and I must say have had practically no comments/unkind interventions since. Just on Tuesday we were walking in woods when a dog came running up to us. The elderly owner called out to ask if the children were scared so I shouted yes. He is not scared - but his behaviour around animals is often inappropriate and could cause the dog to take fright (flapping his arms, making noises in his excitement). As the owner got nearer, I explained it wasn't fear but autism, which led to a long conversation and an invitation to the three of us to accompany him back to his house (100m away) where he fixed cool drinks for the kids and we sat in shady garden and gathered some herbs.

Surprisingly this sort of friendliness and interest has already happened three or four times this year, but never happened when we lived in Baselland. I refuse to draw broadbrush conclusions but in this case, its hard not to. Perhaps I just didn't come across the right people whilst living for 7 years in Baselland
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LOL, i swear to god one day i will do just that.

Being yelled at by a random older naked guy in the gym spa definitely brought me closer to the edge.

maybe he just wanted to see your doo dah
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maybe he just wanted to see your doo dah
He can look all he wants as long as he doesn't yell at me lol!

This reminds me of the swiss over-nakedness in the locker room. Penises, penises everywhere. I sit down to tie my shoes and there is a penis 1 meter from my face. Why are you naked still?? Youre talking to your friend, stop that and put on some underwear!

But hey, thats a different topic.
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

Whatever happened to, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

Back in your home land, how does it look to have a mouthy ex-pat tell you how it should be?
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He can look all he wants as long as he doesn't yell at me lol!

This reminds me of the swiss over-nakedness in the locker room. Penises, penises everywhere. I sit down to tie my shoes and there is a penis 1 meter from my face. Why are you naked still?? Youre talking to your friend, stop that and put on some underwear!

But hey, thats a different topic.
You've obviously not played many team sports. After you've showered/bathed with 30-odd other rugby playaers, it's not unusual, it's a Tom Jones' song.
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Whatever happened to, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

Back in your home land, how does it look to have a mouthy ex-pat tell you how it should be?
Not sure what you mean, but in my homeland people would usually not step in and parent a random person in the street, unless the person was doing someting really bad.
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You've obviously not played many team sports. After you've showered/bathed with 30-odd other rugby playaers, it's not unusual, it's a Tom Jones' song.
I have no problems having my friends naked around me. Watching an older gentleman lifting his sack and using the public hair dryer to remove moisture from the area between his anus and scrotum - I do.
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...

Anyone else noticed this?
Er... no.

Either I instinctively keep the rules, or Basel is rather more relaxed than inner Switzerland. Or I'm so big and scary no-one dares tell me off. Or I've selective deafness.
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

[QUOTE=enguete;1936142]yelled at by random strangers so many times for minor offences such as forgetting to use my towel in the gym sauna, rolling my bike on an empty sidewalk, crossing the street where youre not supposed to cross.

since I haven't done any of the above, I cant comment on them
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whenever I go out to migros with my daughter after 6 pm , I do meet this English speaking grandma who keep repeating the same thing : she is tired . oh she is sleepy- a friendly way of telling me , my daughter should have been in bed
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Whatever happened to, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

Back in your home land, how does it look to have a mouthy ex-pat tell you how it should be?
It doesn't look very good. But it works.

They get government funding, protection, two tier policing, restricted boroughs where certain natives can't enter for fear of attack, their own laws and courts, and if anyone questions it they're called racists.

But that's another thread.
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Watching an older gentleman lifting his sack and using the public hair dryer to remove moisture from the area between his anus and scrotum - I do.
What? There's another way to do this?
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... the area between his anus and scrotum...
According to my Roger's Profanisaurus, the proper term for this is the "barse".
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The Swiss are unique in the way they police each other.

They apply an absolute zero tolerance and will approach you in a way other people would usually approach someone who keep repeating the same bad behavior and you've simply had enough.

From where im from, playing the parent to a random adult in the street can and will lead to a broken nose - but not here.

They skip the "friendly reminder" step and skip straight to "don't do that, that is unacceptable!!"

Anyone else noticed this?
I have decided it is a more grownup , responsible way for a society to live, instead of having the policeforce be the parent all the time. I love the fact that there are so few police officers on the streets here - that it's possible to safely walk along the riverside in KleinBasel after dark in summer, hearing all the happy people enjoying themselves without the need of a police presence to prevent riotous behaviour, fights, broken bottles etc.
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According to my Roger's Profanisaurus, the proper term for this is the "barse".
According to this knowledgeable chap: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0210055AAyxPIJ

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In anatomy, the perineum is the region between the genital area and the anus in both sexes. It is considered to be one of the intimate parts of the body. Common nicknames for the area include grundel, taint, gooch, guiche, nifkin, scranus (a portmanteau of scrotum and anus), barasch, bossman, and in some cases, choad.
LOL @ some of thse terms...
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After living here 5 years and from being yelled at by random strangers so many times for minor offences such as forgetting to use my towel in the gym sauna, rolling my bike on an empty sidewalk, crossing the street where youre not supposed to cross, etc
Your overall point is good, but your individual examples are not.

So you go to a naked sauna and don't use a towel? You just sit your naked body on a communal seat without sitting on a towel? Eurgh.

So you have a bike and instead of riding on the road as you should, you ride on the pavement? Empty, you say? Except for all the Swiss standing there shouting at you, of course.

Shouted at for crossing the road at the wrong place? That depends. Generally, the Swiss are such shit drivers (not helped by a road design done by someone who probably doesn't even know what a car is) that crossing a road in an un-marked place simply adds to the odds that someone will drive into you. However, I've never been shouted at for doing this and in fact only once when in Germany - the comment was that we were setting a bad example to the children.

So, a combination of you doing the wrong thing, and being somewhere (*not* Basel) where people like to shout and ... voila.
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Re: How the swiss deal with incorrect behavior from strangers

Either I never do anything wrong in the eyes of the Swiss or what ECB said about living in Swiss Romande is right. I have never ever been shouted at or abused in all the time I've lived here but I do live in Swiss Romande where things tend to be a bit more laid back.
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