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Old 18.02.2008, 19:39
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Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

I love chocolate. especially dark chocolate, chocolate cake, fresh brownies.
But i can not find these anywhere in Lugano, there are tons of chocolate stores selling cheapo chocolate bars that taste like flavored cardboard. if the swiss are so into chocolate shouldn't i be able to order a slice of chocolate cake at a restaurant. instead i find only chocolate mouse, whip-cream, with a whole ton of things added in: jams, nuts bread, fruits... its like they cant afford the whole piece of chocolate so they add a whole bunch of things to stretch it out.

anyone else think the swiss dont know what real chocolate is? or do you find it hard to find fresh chocolates?

ps i would die for a german black forest (flowerless) chocolate cake...
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I love chocolate. especially dark chocolate, chocolate cake, fresh brownies.
But i can not find these anywhere in Lugano, there are tons of chocolate stores selling cheapo chocolate bars that taste like flavored cardboard. if the swiss are so into chocolate shouldn't i be able to order a slice of chocolate cake at a restaurant. instead i find only chocolate mouse, whip-cream, with a whole ton of things added in: jams, nuts bread, fruits... its like they cant afford the whole piece of chocolate so they add a whole bunch of things to stretch it out.

anyone else think the swiss dont know what real chocolate is? or do you find it hard to find fresh chocolates?

ps i would die for a german black forest (flowerless) chocolate cake...
Sadly, for all those who live in the non-german speaking parts of Switzerland, Sprüngli is not everywhere. It's sad really. But as a die hard Swiss chocolate lover I find it mildly offensive you say Swiss chocolate is bad.

Have you tried the chocolate aisle at Coop? Not all of the bars are good but some of the CHF 3 bars are fabu.
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

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on the right-hand side of the lace you'll find quality chocolate. It's the best place in Lugano.

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Have you tried the chocolate aisle at Coop? Not all of the bars are good but some of the CHF 3 bars are fabu.
yes, but i was more referring to Fresh made chocolate items, like chocolate cake and brownies, like you can find at just about every restaurant in the US.

yes i know switzerland has packaged brownies and packaged chocolate bars, but they just dont compare.
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yes, but i was more referring to Fresh made chocolate items, like chocolate cake and brownies, like you can find at just about every restaurant in the US.
therein lies your answer ....
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on the right-hand side of the lace you'll find quality chocolate. It's the best place in Lugano.
yes tried that place, unfortunately hardly any "dark chocolate" and like i said most are covered in nuts or fruits. also no chocolate cake
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

Wikipedia reference-linkBlack_Forest_gateau
You're complaining about German cake not being available in an Italian region?

Brownies are not really big here - certainly not freshly made.

Have you ventured over the border into Italy to find what you want? Or even up north to Zurich or Germany?
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

I can empathise, it's a little bit like going to the US & not being able to get a decent Budweiser ....
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

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Sadly, for all those who live in the non-german speaking parts of Switzerland, Sprüngli is not everywhere. It's sad really. But as a die hard Swiss chocolate lover I find it mildly offensive you say Swiss chocolate is bad.

Have you tried the chocolate aisle at Coop? Not all of the bars are good but some of the CHF 3 bars are fabu.
Actually, I heard a lot about swiss chocolate before coming here. But now that I am here, I find it, well, un-remarkable. Not bad, just not different from what I can find just about everywhere else when I'm prepared to pay a little bit more than for a Mars-bar.
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

I buy the brownies from migros then put them in the microwave for about 1 minute and then they are warm and gooly like freashly made brownies why not try this all my visitors that i give them to ask ave i just made them myself.
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You're complaining about German cake not being available in an Italian region?

Brownies are not really big here - certainly not freshly made.

Have you ventured over the border into Italy to find what you want? Or even up north to Zurich or Germany?
yes but the Italians dont claim to be known for their chocolate like the swiss do...
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

You might check to see if your local health food store has some Rapunzel chocolate bars. I've had a few and they're quite tasty. They're made for Rapunzel by Maestrani (Munz) in Flawil.
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Actually, I heard a lot about swiss chocolate before coming here. But now that I am here, I find it, well, un-remarkable. Not bad, just not different from what I can find just about everywhere else when I'm prepared to pay a little bit more than for a Mars-bar.
Well, you get what you pay for. The really good chocolate will cost you more than CHF 3.

But anyways, shouldn't this thread be entitled "Where can I find chocolate baked goods in Ticino"

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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

I couldnt help but reply to this one. Italy is also famous for its chocolate like the swiss, but a good choclate cake, real choclate mousse and brownies, no. This is due to the fact that bakeries make the same stuff that they have been selling for 50 years. The customers never change their tastes. italians don't indulge in tea and cake. They have chocolate paste inside the brioche for breakfast, but thats it. Homebaking for re-sale is not an option in overregulated and unchanging Italy of which Lugano is a part. Each region sticks to its own recipes and they would never dream of making a black forest cake, after all Italian food is superior to anything else on the planet. I think you get my drift here. make it at home and invite your friends around. The swiss choclate shop in lugano is great (if expensive) but for dark choclate lovers buy Lint extra dark 80%
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anyone else think the swiss dont know what real chocolate is? or do you find it hard to find fresh chocolates?

ps i would die for a german black forest (flowerless) chocolate cake...
I love chocolate but I don't like black forest cake. It's mostly cream, liquer and cherries and not chocolate. Maybe you could order one?

At least in the german part there are a thousend places where old ladies drink their 4 o'clock tea and eat black forest cake.

There's one misunderstanding in Switzerland and that is chocolate should come with milk. So many cheap chocolates taste like what they are, a mix of sugar and milk powder. Fortunately there's plenty of variety available.

I bought this Lindt Excellence Madagascar chocolate. The only ingredients are cocoa, cocoa butter, sugar, vanilla beans. So this is true chocolate with no cheap fats and artificial flavors.
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yes but the Italians dont claim to be known for their chocolate like the swiss do...
Tell that to someone from Torino or Firenze.
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brownies are really easy to make at home. try it!
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

It seems every pasticceria I see in Italy stocks Lindt chocolate - the ones in big slabs that you buy by weight.

Regarding dark chocolate, there was a taste test done on one of the TV consumer shows. Most people preferred the Frey dark chocolate from Migros.
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Re: Swiss Chocolate, I don't understand it? its so hard to find.

I think that there's some misunderstanding surrounding the "Swiss chocolate" thing. I'm not an expert, so I'm going to simply post two links I came up with:
http://www.chocosuisse.ch/page/2_1_geschichte-en.html
http://www.lindt.com/2865/2870/3154.asp
I think that fame came about due to a pioneering mechanized industry producing high-quality chocolate, as well as the invention of a few new types of chocolates which greatly appealed to the masses, such as milk chocolate. In any case, I doubt that Switzerland is the producer of the best artisanal chocolate -- maybe the Belgians? And by no means they can claim a big expertise on cakes or other chocolate-based sweets! And of course, taste is subjective: my housemate prefers Cadbury's chocolate above all -- WTF??!!
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I think that there's some misunderstanding surrounding the "Swiss chocolate" thing. I'm not an expert, so I'm going to simply post two links I came up with:
http://www.chocosuisse.ch/page/2_1_geschichte-en.html
http://www.lindt.com/2865/2870/3154.asp
I think that fame came about due to a pioneering mechanized industry producing high-quality chocolate, as well as the invention of a few new types of chocolates which greatly appealed to the masses, such as milk chocolate. In any case, I doubt that Switzerland is the producer of the best artisanal chocolate -- maybe the Belgians? And by no means they can claim a big expertise on cakes or other chocolate-based sweets! And of course, taste is subjective: my housemate prefers Cadbury's chocolate above all -- WTF??!!
It says in your second link:

"Rodolphe Lindt was probably the most famous chocolate-maker of his day. In 1879 he developed a technique by which he could manufacture chocolate which was superior to all others of that period in aroma and melting characteristics. Using the "conche" he had invented, he produced chocolate with the wonderfully delicate flavour and melting quality which we know and love to this day. His "melting chocolate" soon achieved fame, and contributed significantly to the worldwide reputation of Swiss chocolate."

Sprüngli at Paradeplatz in Zürich exists since 1859. Maybe someone should tell them they have no clue

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