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Old 27.02.2008, 23:18
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Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

Ok, lets get this into perspective.

MacDonalds and Burger King are not the two institutions that spring to mind when I think of healthy nutritious food. But surely, up by Geneva train station, we don't need two of them? Hmmm. Thats obviously what somebody thought since now they've both gone.

I note one point - they were both PACKED full of customers. Ergo, if one of them closes down, surely .. the ... second .. one would therefore make even more money? After all, we human beings scurrying about our oh-so-important daily lives all need our healthy nutritious deep-friend corn starch, salt and sugar fix. So now they're both closed. OK, I don't care. Its less temptation anyway but then .. after staggering out of the gym tonight, after a positively Herculean (sic) 65 minutes of sweaty cardio ( I had bigger breasts than the girl on the treadmill next to me, which would be great if I wasn't a guy ... ) - I had to get some food before getting on the train. Something, anything .. heeeere's SWISSMEAL.

Tarantara.

Oh dear, the Swiss. The international hallmark of the mediocre. So in I popped. Desperately hungry.

Q : A veggie burger, please ( since I am veggie )
A : Yes, we have our omelette in a bun
Q : OK, thanks. I'll have it. And make it snappy, young man!

( I didn't say that last bit )

So, a few minutes later I was on the train and bit into my veggie omelette burger ...

Problem 1. - It was chicken. Now I don't want to generalise about people who work in fast food joints - but HOW STUPID. Its a good job I'm not diabetic and ordered diet coke. Thanks for challenging my morals you idiot.

Problem 2. - It WASN'T COOKED. Pink in the middle.

Ok, so I ate half of it ( which means I am a slack veggie, or just a very hungry one and I am going to be SO NICE to the bunnies the next time I see them to make up for it, but I think its better to be half way somewhere than have a whole lotta nothing, right? )

TODAY'S SPECIALS : Half cooked wrong immoral burgers.

Arguably, if I hadn't eaten half I wouldnt have found out it was half cooked ( and therefore, half eaten ) but perhaps that's God's ( universal consciousness, Christina Aguilera - whatever the supreme being is in denominational or ontological terms ) way of telling me to be stronger willed in the face of fowl, pack a banana in advance of going to gym and to avoid fast food joints in general.

But also one more lesson for me - avoid Swissmeal from now on.

Thank you for letting me get that off my ( big ) chest
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Old 27.02.2008, 23:32
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

I'm a veggie too . . . except I LOVE it when I'm accidentally given a chicken sandwich and forced {forced!} to eat a few delicious bites.

Have you actually found a veggie burger in Switzerland? I've yet to see or hear of one, but you've given me hope! What are they called and what are they like?

Thanks!
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Old 27.02.2008, 23:42
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

Hey,

A fellow secret chicken fancier ! Hello !

MacDo ( in spite of what I said ) do a veggie burger but they don't advertise it on the board since I think it's not that popular. Ask for a "sandwich vegetarien" and they end up calling the manager since they probably only sell about 5 a year and no-one knows what they are.

Ummm. They do veggie burgers in the supermarket but they're nasty.

I usually just survive on noodles.
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Old 27.02.2008, 23:48
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...So now they're both closed.
Good riddance...
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So, a few minutes later I was on the train and bit into my veggie omelette burger ...

Problem 1. - It was chicken. Now I don't want to generalise about people who work in fast food joints - but HOW STUPID.
A month ago I ordered my usual veggie meal at the company cafeteria, sat down, took a bite, tasted it, and spat it out. After gently prodding the offending material I found it to be filled with diced ham (pork disgusts me more than any other kind of meat). After bringing the slop back to the kitchen and alerting them to the fact that there is meat in the veggie meal, one of the chef's very candidly said "yes, there's a little bit of ham in the veggie meal today". After trying to explain to him they can't call it "veggie" if it has meat in it, I just got an incredulous look.... it dawned on me that the chef probably wasn't the brightest bulb in the factory so I left it at that and demanded they give me a proper veggie meal, sans meat. They are lucky I'm not Jewish or Muslim....
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Old 27.02.2008, 23:58
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

Horrid, I know what you mean about pork.

That stuff stays in your stomach for literally years. The odd chicken misadventure I can handle ( springing to mind the episode of Family Guy where he fights the giant chicken for about 5 minutes, I may be on my own here ) but pork is a no no.

It just goes to show if you want to be careful about what you eat or put into your body, the type of consideration you get from other people is limited. 99% of people are just stomping forwards without thinking or being or understanding or appreciating ( I remember fondly the conversation I had with my mother when I described the human species as merely "conscious meat, while some of us are just more conscious than others" ) anyway, and if you make a personal dietary choice with the conviction to follow up on it, people think you're weird.

Actually, I just read that back to myself and now I think I am weird.

Christmas is a hoot at our place. We're all veggies apart from my dad. Ho ho ho.
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Horrid, I know what you mean about pork.
That stuff stays in your stomach for literally years.
What on earth are you talking about? What possible reason could there be for pork to stay in the stomach for "literally" years? If there was an ounce of truth in that statement then I would "literally" weigh 400kg. Pork products are the backbone of my diet.

Bizarre.

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A month ago I ordered my usual veggie meal at the company cafeteria, sat down, took a bite, tasted it, and spat it out. After gently prodding the offending material I found it to be filled with diced ham (pork disgusts me more than any other kind of meat). After bringing the slop back to the kitchen and alerting them to the fact that there is meat in the veggie meal, one of the chef's very candidly said "yes, there's a little bit of ham in the veggie meal today". After trying to explain to him they can't call it "veggie" if it has meat in it, I just got an incredulous look.... it dawned on me that the chef probably wasn't the brightest bulb in the factory so I left it at that and demanded they give me a proper veggie meal, sans meat. They are lucky I'm not Jewish or Muslim....
I have similar problems from time to time with wheat flour - as well as avoiding the obvious stuff like bread, biscuits, pasta and so on, I have also learnt, through grim experience, to avoid a number of other dishes, simply because I cannot trust restaurant staff to give me an honest answer (rather than just the answer they presume I want to hear). I still have the occasional mishap ("No, there's no weizenmehl in it. Oh, well, the chef probably just used a bit of flour to seal the meat..." ), but these days I trust my own instincts, rather than rely on waiters and chefs who can't really be expected to understand the implications of a quick and easy answer.

After all, they're busy people, and it isn't them who will have to spend the next 24 hours in the lavatory...
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

What Geneva needs is a fish and chip shop true brit style. And if you dont eat fish then just bring on the mushy peas ..... mmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

In all, isn't it a bit like complaining about a fondue served in New York or a Raclette in London. Don't expect the best fast food in a country without a fast food culture...
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

It turns out like that when you rely on shitty fast foods (especially at the airports, railway stations, etc). Mc Donald & Burger king provide at least similar (crappy) quality of junk across the restaurants. If you go to other places it's like a big lottery. And there are two alternatives: - have your own food, - eat at the restaurant. Fast food is just useless junk, potential Escherichia coli and other weird bacterias.
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... 65 minutes of sweaty cardio ( I had bigger breasts than the girl on the treadmill next to me, which would be great if I wasn't a guy ... ) - I had to get some food before getting on the train. Something, anything .. heeeere's SWISSMEAL.

Tarantara.

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Thank you for letting me get that off my ( big ) chest

You had me at 'breasts'.

And isn't it 'tan-tan-tarra!'?
('Tarantara' raises the hairs on my arms 'coz it sounds like tarantula.)

Your preamble or prologue is the best I've read so far (but, like Hugh Abu, I'm not that well read). Perhaps it was a language/listening problem on the part of the guy who took your order?

Mmm... perhaps I should open a vegetarian/vegan takeaway counter? Big enough market for it, you think?
(But then there are chicken-eating vegetarians, no doubt only when 'forced', out there... is that good or bad for my business idea?)
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In all, isn't it a bit like complaining about a fondue served in New York or a Raclette in London. Don't expect the best fast food in a country without a fast food culture...

But what if you'd ordered that fondue or raclette and found it was full of something that shouldn't have been there? Quality is one thing, but outright lying by the staff is another.
Regarding fast food here, there always seems to be enough people in Burger King and CrapDonald's and they're not all us auslander-types. I'd say there is a market, but it's probably the high import costs of meat that drive away places like KFC, where it all generally comes from a few big factories - in the case of Switzerland, I doubt if they started up here, they'd want to put in all the infrastructure of production in the country before they knew if it would be a success or not.

Now, I'm not a fan of most junk food (unless you passed a KFC by me - at the moment I'd rip your arm off for it), but you don't hear of all that many people carking it from stuff they've picked up from fast food apart from the excess fat and cholesterol. Everything in moderation and all that...
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

Couldn't you just take a marmite sandwich with you?
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Re: Swissmeal in Geneva - thanks a fat bunch

My mate marmite ?

I didn't mention the place was crawling with spiders ( hence tarantara and not tan tan tarra, but I'll start a different thread on that )

Don't think it was a language thing since I definately asked for the right thing, but whether or not they have a fast food culture thing, or not ( as the case may be - which is good thing in itself, surely ) - my point is perhaps more about service culture ( or lack thereof ) in Swizterland where waiters or serving staff or whoever just treat their customers with a lack of respect ( cite : waiters stepping on my foot, almost taking my girlfriends face off with a whisked plate of pizza served at the next table )

and she dumped me a few months afterwards

but I don't think it was to do with the waiter.

But anyway, Service Culture in Switzerland and Do People Listen?

For example, Monday morning conversation -

Bob - Hi Jack, good weekend?
Jack - Great, thanks.

( In reality, jack's wife was eaten by a bear )

Jack - You ?
Bob - Oh, hahaha, tired / surviving / not too bad / it's almost Friday.

Friday Conversation :

Jack - Any plans for the weekend?
Bob - Oh, I'm releasing a bear into the wild and ...

All this from fast food ?
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I'd say there is a market, but it's probably the high import costs of meat that drive away places like KFC, where it all generally comes from a few big factories - in the case of Switzerland, I doubt if they started up here, they'd want to put in all the infrastructure of production in the country before they knew if it would be a success or not.
There used to be a KFC in Geneva until a few years ago.
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