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Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

No flushing the toilet after 10pm.

Must wash the floor after using the laundry room.

No lawn mowing on Sundays

No loud noises during lunch time.

Must tie the trash in bundles measuring no more than 3 cm in width.

Ten speed cameras line the road to Bellevue.

Signs up everywhere telling "Forbidden".



Have you noticed that even Swiss made inanimate objects tell you what to do?

Now my own refrigerator orders me around in my own home ....

I recently bought a refrigerator, only to find that it screeches at me within seconds of opening the door.

It is very Germanic. Almost wagging it's finger at me, saying "Das is Verboten, you should be ashamed of yourself and only have the door open the amount of time we have ruled is appropriate."

I can't but help think if this was an American refridgerator, this buzz would be more pleasant, more like a suggestion .... "Bing, bing, excuse me, by the way, you may have noticed that the door is open and I am concerned your food will spoil, just trying to help."

Sounds like a small thing, but it is very annoying.

After coming home from uptight Switzerland, I can no longer take refuge in my home, relax, and while tired from a long day, open the door to see what is to eat without this thing telling me off that I have violated the way things are done and am not doing it properly.

I realize I want my refridgerator to eventually telling me if the door has been left open and all my food is going to rot. However, the main annoying bit is how quickly and obnoxiously it orders you around. I tried calling the company and there is no way to change the time it gives you to get your food without reprimanding you.

If you ignore it for a couple of seconds longer, then it gets even more irritated with you and starts turning the inner light on and off repeatedly to tell you that it will not stand for such behavior.

I would like the freedom to spoil my own food and give myself food poisoning in my own home.

Can I at least escape from Swiss rules of how things are done with inanimate objects I own in my own home?
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

The same holds true for Germanic cars.

Have you ever noticed how BMW's yell at you for leaving the lights on?

It's a very annoy "BRRRRRRR" blast. You can almost hear the harsh German accent "Das ist Verboten, we will not let you leave your lights on in any circumstance".

Whereas the American auto counterparts are a very gentle, pleasant, "Ding, dong" .... as if to say, excuse me, don't mean to interrupt, I just thought you'd like to know that your lights are still on and we are concerned you might drain your battery".
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I recently bought a refrigerator, only to find that it screeches at me within seconds of opening the door.
We recently got a (very expensive) new fridge that does this.

It was made in Scotland.

Bloody rule-obsessed Scotchies, eh?
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

Chillax.
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

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It was made in Scotland.

Bloody rule-obsessed Scotchies, eh?
Probably it had to be altered upon import to CH to conform to some referendum.
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

Had 2 fridges that do/did this ... and on both you could silence the alarms. Pour yourself a glass of wine, chill on the sofa and peruse your manuals.

(Try a volvo for authoritarian sternness ... not sure if that is entirely what I would expect from the Swedish.)
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

The one about flushing toilets after 10pm is an urban myth. Suggest you read the Mieterverband website from time to time.
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The one about flushing toilets after 10pm is an urban myth. Suggest you read the Mieterverband website from time to time.
I definitely know one apartment building where people can't take showers after 10pm.

I also know another apartment building where the elderly people watch television with headsets so as not to disturb the neighbors.

I also know of another apartment building where the people first tie their trash in one plastic bag, and then recover it with the zuri-sak (i.e. double sack) so as not to disturb the neighbors with the smell of their trash.
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Re: Swiss Rules - Even inanimate objects make up rules

I know of another neighborhood where small outdoor barbecues are not allowed in their backyards because the smell will upset the neighbors.
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No flushing the toilet after 10pm.
There is no such rule or law, NONE

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Must wash the floor after using the laundry room.
No, almost nobody does so

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No lawn mowing on Sundays
If your instrument is silent, you can do so whenever

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No loud noises during lunch time.
THIS indeed IS a rule, normally depending on your village/town/city. Usually between 12.00 and 13.15

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Must tie the trash in bundles measuring no more than 3 cm in width.
NO NO NO

- the trash is to be done into bags (details depend on the location)
- newspapers and old papers are to be bundled according to the size of Continental European newspapers
- cardboxes ( no plastic etc) are to be made ready in a way which is practical to handle, on the day indicated

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Signs up everywhere telling "Forbidden".
Sure ! Not least in order to teach all those foreigners


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Have you noticed that even Swiss made inanimate objects tell you what to do? Now my own refrigerator orders me around in my own home .... I recently bought a refrigerator, only to find that it screeches at me within seconds of opening the door.It is very Germanic. Almost wagging it's finger at me, saying "Das is Verboten, you should be ashamed of yourself and only have the door open the amount of time we have ruled is appropriate."
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Looks as if your fridge is both environmentally aware and law-abiding

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Must tie the trash in bundles measuring no more than 3 cm in width.
I once had a neighbor take a ruler to our bundles of paper and put them back on our doorstep because they were not the official 3cm required.

We told her that we hand them like this directly to the paper collectors and they are happy with them.

She said she it was still several centimeters over and she was going to report us.
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I once had a neighbor take a ruler to our bundles of paper and put them back on our doorstep because they were not the official 3cm required.

We told her that we hand them like this directly to the paper collectors and they are happy with them.

She said she it was still several centimeters over and she was going to report us.
That neighbour is simply and clearly WRONG. I have put out bundles of newspapers with the size of 40x30cms and heights of up to 50 cms for more than 30 years

Would that neighbour be near me, I would warn her just once and then call the police, because gross nonsense is a criminal offense

What I would tell her in dialect would be

und jetzt haltet Si null-komma-plötzlich dä Latz suscht meldich ich das Problem dä Polizei
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because gross nonsense is a criminal offense
This same neighbor lectures tenants if there is soap left in the soap dish that feeds the washing machine.

The rules on the door to the laundry room state that we should wash the internal soap tray of the washing machine after the washing cycle is done.
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THIS indeed IS a rule, normally depending on your village/town/city. Usually between 12.00 and 13.15...
In my community it's 12-13:45 - but just across the border, it's 12:15-13:15... so I can't make a noise, but my neighbour can!
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No flushing the toilet after 10pm.

Must wash the floor after using the laundry room.

No lawn mowing on Sundays

No loud noises during lunch time.

Must tie the trash in bundles measuring no more than 3 cm in width.

Ten speed cameras line the road to Bellevue.

Signs up everywhere telling "Forbidden".



Have you noticed that even Swiss made inanimate objects tell you what to do?

Now my own refrigerator orders me around in my own home ....

I recently bought a refrigerator, only to find that it screeches at me within seconds of opening the door.

It is very Germanic. Almost wagging it's finger at me, saying "Das is Verboten, you should be ashamed of yourself and only have the door open the amount of time we have ruled is appropriate."

I can't but help think if this was an American refridgerator, this buzz would be more pleasant, more like a suggestion .... "Bing, bing, excuse me, by the way, you may have noticed that the door is open and I am concerned your food will spoil, just trying to help."

Sounds like a small thing, but it is very annoying.

After coming home from uptight Switzerland, I can no longer take refuge in my home, relax, and while tired from a long day, open the door to see what is to eat without this thing telling me off that I have violated the way things are done and am not doing it properly.

I realize I want my refridgerator to eventually telling me if the door has been left open and all my food is going to rot. However, the main annoying bit is how quickly and obnoxiously it orders you around. I tried calling the company and there is no way to change the time it gives you to get your food without reprimanding you.

If you ignore it for a couple of seconds longer, then it gets even more irritated with you and starts turning the inner light on and off repeatedly to tell you that it will not stand for such behavior.

I would like the freedom to spoil my own food and give myself food poisoning in my own home.

Can I at least escape from Swiss rules of how things are done with inanimate objects I own in my own home?
Congrats for finally becoming the stereotypical moaning expat... I see you have been registered since 2007, so it seems to have taken you a while, and one would think that you would be well used to the petty stuff you are pointing out by now!

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(Try a volvo for authoritarian sternness ... not sure if that is entirely what I would expect from the Swedish.)
Just for fun, switch your GPS between German and British voices...

When I need to concentrate, I go with the German female voice. Keeps me on my toes, does the gnädige Frau.

When out for a relaxing drive, I go with the British male voice. He's soooo calm and reassuring.


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Ten speed cameras line the road to Bellevue.
From where to where?

On the stretch approaching from Zollikon there are maximum 2 cameras and one of those is a temporary unit which is sometimes located elsewhere in the area.

Drama, much?
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This same neighbor lectures tenants if there is soap left in the soap dish that feeds the washing machine.

The rules on the door to the laundry room state that we should wash the internal soap tray of the washing machine after the washing cycle is done.
I sympathize with the neighbour, who likes to use a machine caked with your old powder? When the rinsing cycle runs, the water is flavoured with old powder and the clothes are not free of the soap powder!

You really are a dirty stubborn Auslander! Use liquid detergent if you are too lazy to clean out the soap powder tray.
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You really are a dirty stubborn Auslander!
Oh, for Pete's sake Sbrinz. Anyway, given that the issue is excessive use of laundry soap, I hardly think 'dirty' applies, do you?


Back on topic, my Swiss refrigerator doesn't beep at all no matter how long the door is left open. I think this is probably because I never set the clock on it, poor thing doesn't know whether it is after 10pm or not. [Should I be worried - are the police going to come round and nab me for Haushaltsgerätsquälerei?]
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Oh, for Pete's sake Sbrinz. Anyway, given that the issue is excessive use of laundry soap, I hardly think 'dirty' applies, do you?


Back on topic, my Swiss refrigerator doesn't beep at all no matter how long the door is left open. I think this is probably because I never set the clock on it, poor thing doesn't know whether it is after 10pm or not. [Should I be worried - are the police going to come round and nab me for Haushaltsgerätsquälerei?]
I genuinely wish my freezer beeped, or even screamed or something, when the door was left open, because due to the silicone not gripping properly I have probably defrosted the entire thing around 3-4x now.
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