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Old 04.06.2014, 18:26
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Definitely true. We're only polite to people we don't like
Ah, ok. Please, don't like me, then.

The spirit of community cohesion comes and goes, including being civil to each other. It's always more encouraging for noobs or people who just stand by, when their butts are not being flamed right when they just show up.

But it works both ways, some diva entitlement to have homework done for you fast and gratuit, meh - then enjoy having some of the ott brit snarkiness, pls.
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Old 04.06.2014, 20:11
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I totally agree with the OP.

I often have the impression that many of the comments are things that wouldn't have been said in person.

It is much easier to be nasty when hiding anonymously behind a computer screen.
I think cultural differences come into it on here, too. As Lucy_who mentions, if you are a Brit, the time to get worried is when people are super polite to the point of being a bit distant.

As soon as someone takes the piss one way or another, you are "in".

Obviously, this all clashes horribly on here when you have a % who don't have English as a mother-tongue or you grew up in an English speaking part of the world that is culturally less likely to rib each other, or you just don't understand a tone or a colloquialism.

It's so easy in text to be misunderstood and go on to take offence. I know that there is some nastiness on the forum but often I have to mentally face-palm when I see someone getting all touchy and defensive when it was obvious (to me) that they were just being ribbed or teased by the other poster.

In its own way, that then becomes bleakly comedic as it follows the old "straight guy / funny guy" routine.
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Old 04.06.2014, 22:30
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I think cultural differences come into it on here, too. As Lucy_who mentions, if you are a Brit, the time to get worried is when people are super polite to the point of being a bit distant.

As soon as someone takes the piss one way or another, you are "in".

Obviously, this all clashes horribly on here when you have a % who don't have English as a mother-tongue or you grew up in an English speaking part of the world that is culturally less likely to rib each other, or you just don't understand a tone or a colloquialism.

It's so easy in text to be misunderstood and go on to take offence. I know that there is some nastiness on the forum but often I have to mentally face-palm when I see someone getting all touchy and defensive when it was obvious (to me) that they were just being ribbed or teased by the other poster.

In its own way, that then becomes bleakly comedic as it follows the old "straight guy / funny guy" routine.
So where does the name calling and threats come in

you know , you are an muppet, idiot, nutter, hypocrite, full of shit, racist, bitter woman, crazy cat lady, etc and i'm going to do this that and the other to you if you don't stop making me feel ashamed of my behaviour

bad parenting?

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Old 04.06.2014, 22:36
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

Certainly we Brits would do well to remember that there's no body language online and so friendly piss-taking is pretty much indistinguishable from being a right nasty bastard.
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Certainly we Brits would do well to remember that there's no body language online and so friendly piss-taking is pretty much indistinguishable from being a right nasty bastard.
ooh i don't know, i use it as a form of self defence, more elegant and fun than name calling, threats or or being pathetic by 'punishing' others with groans and reds
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Old 04.06.2014, 22:55
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So where does the name calling and threats come in

you know , you are an muppet, idiot, nutter, hypocrite, full of shit, a bitter woman, crazy cat lady, etc and i'm going to do this that and the other to you if you don't stop making me feel ashamed of my behaviour

bad parenting?
My post did actually point out that there IS nasty behaviour on the forum but I was referring to people not being able to distinguish between that and a bit of ribbing. It's a case of give and take - as much as there are people willing to dish out bare-faced insults, there are also people with a chronic sense of humour failure when it IS a bit of harmless ribbing.

So, six of one and half a dozen of the other.
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Old 04.06.2014, 23:03
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ooh i don't know, i use it as a form of self defence, more elegant and fun than name calling, threats or or being pathetic by 'punishing' others with groans and reds
Totally agree, happy at least someone else has a good heart.
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Certainly we Brits would do well to remember that there's no body language online and so friendly piss-taking is pretty much indistinguishable from being a right nasty bastard.
You said it! We dont really do piss-taking where im from unless its with people you know really, really well (otherwise your nose might be rendered flattened). So im already a bit taken back by it and have to remind myself its just the brits way of being friendly and "accepting" you.

Now this is at a pub where i can see the person. At a forum the risk is way higher that people get unintentionally insulted.

Bloody piss taking brits, right c*nts you are!
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

I'm new here and feel welcomed. I understood the 2 golden rules long before my first post:

1. Be specific
2. Don't ask "How do I get a permit?"

All forums have their good and bad, it's the Internet and it has an off switch.
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

And on no account mention anything negative about dogs or smokers.

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I'm new here and feel welcomed. I understood the 2 golden rules long before my first post:

1. Be specific
2. Don't ask "How do I get a permit?"

All forums have their good and bad, it's the Internet and it has an off switch.
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Can you link to any? Maybe I don't spend enough time here, but I just don't see it.
Hah. You should have seen some of the usenet groups in the old days. uk.rec.motorcycles continues the tradition, but it's one of the few that's survived the onset of web forums like this.
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I live in Swiss & don't know how to use the search on EF

Okay, I live in Switzerland and I search for everything myself. The Google search feature is very nice on English Forums. I think I'm getting pretty good at it, too.

My complaint is if somebody calls it Swiss in a random comment then someone else has a cow about it. Yeah they're wrong, but in my country (the US) most people hardly know the difference between Switzerland and Sweden. We're mostly English-only speakers! If someone's first language isn't English and they mess it up and call it Swiss, it's close enough to what it's called in the local languages here and you understand that. No need to beat them up about it.

Second complaint.. If anyone posts anything and doesn't preface it with "I searched this on English Forums and couldn't find what I needed" then someone always writes "Have you met the search function?". There is no substance by replying with this. You can say what you know about the topic, or else saying nothing is best. What are you contributing?
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My complaint is if somebody calls it Swiss in a random comment then someone else has a cow about it. Yeah they're wrong, but in my country (the US) most people hardly know the difference between Switzerland and Sweden.
You know the wrong people, everyone I know in the US knows the difference.

Meanwhile, do you know the difference between England and Enge?

Or Wales, Whales, and Wallis?

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Old 12.04.2016, 23:07
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

Welcome to EF, drewboog.

You'll find others who share your sentiments in this rather large thread. Happy reading!
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Old 12.04.2016, 23:09
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Yeah they're wrong, but in my country (the US) most people hardly know the difference between Switzerland and Sweden. We're mostly English-only speakers! If someone's first language isn't English and they mess it up and call it Swiss, it's close enough to what it's called in the local languages here and you understand that. No need to beat them up about it.
If one can't even take the time to correctly state the name and adjective relating to our country (with the word Switzerland being a very prominent part of the forum title for crying out loud, which is in the top left corner of every single bloomin' page you enter on this forum, right next to the picture of the faces, under "english forum", then I don't see anything wrong with simply reposting, for the umpteenth time, my thread on http://www.englishforum.ch/daily-lif...itzerland.html

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Way more than those who come here and expect to be spoon-fed. Too many of those around - thankfully there are others as well, who actually do their research and don't get all pissy when asked if they have looked before asking. Proven just yesterday - see for yourself: move from US to zurich with 3 kids

As for answering questions for the umpteenth time - after a certain number of practically identical questions, it does get tiring and I do take the liberty to simply post links to the many posts I've written on e.g. health insurance in Switzerland. People should also be able to read posts and adapt them to their specific situation without us, strangers who don't know their situation as well as they do and never will, taking everything apart for them.

I can understand it when forum vets and legends get annoyed at times - see the many threads on this issue for further information.


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Welcome to EF, drewboog.

You'll find others who share your sentiments in this rather large thread. Happy reading!
Dang 3Wishes, moving drewboog's thread (now mere post) to an existing thread after I wrote out this long response? If I had known a merge was coming up, I would've saved my speech and taken care of other things instead.
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Welcome to EF, drewboog.

You'll find others who share your sentiments in this rather large thread. Happy reading!
Feeding the trolls, are we?

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...Dang 3Wishes, moving drewboog's thread (now mere post) to an existing thread after I wrote out this long response? If I had known a merge was coming up, I would've saved my speech and taken care of other things instead.
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Feeding the trolls, are we?
Sorry. If we're going to beat this dead topic to oblivion, we can at least keep the posts in the same place. Maybe drew did a search and didn't find any other threads complaining about the treatment of new posters.
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

Seems to me, from the style, etc- that some so called 'new' posters are nothing of the sort. They sound very very familiar - same old, same old.
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Seems to me, from the style, etc- that some so called 'new' posters are nothing of the sort. They sound very very familiar - same old, same old.
Oooohhh... pray tell - who are we talking about?
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Re: I live in Swiss & don't know how to use the search on EF

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You know the wrong people, everyone I know in the US knows the difference.

Meanwhile, do you know the difference between England and Enge?

Or Wales, Whales, and Wallis?

Tom
I'm not trying to troll at all or be groaned at by you. Everyone really should know the difference. In my experience a lot of people just don't know in the US. (We're not related. )
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