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Old 08.02.2014, 12:48
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

The towel person didn't mention quality, nor price. Just saying.

Yes I do that, I bought a lot of stuff at the sales in Manor in Geneva.
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Old 08.02.2014, 12:49
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Where is your logic?
You don't reply to their questions but get in a state when someone does in a manner you find unhelpful.
Who nominated you for the role of newbies champion?
nobody, but its his opinion. and thats ok.
when reading the towel post i think: where OP would buy towels back home?
so transfer that onto Geneva?
why not jfgi (just fookin google it) but coming here, registering ( i wonder how an inet iilliterate can manage that but is inapt using search function?) and asking that on EF?
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Old 08.02.2014, 12:53
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Where is your logic?
You don't reply to their questions but get in a state when someone does in a manner you find unhelpful.
Who nominated you for the role of newbies champion?
It's nothing to do with what I think or what I do, it's to do with the forum and what's good for the forum.

New members are good for a forum, chasing them away is not.
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Old 08.02.2014, 12:54
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

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nobody, but its his opinion. and thats ok.
when reading the towel post i think: where OP would buy towels back home?
so transfer that onto Geneva?
why not jfgi (just fookin google it) but coming here, registering ( i wonder how an inet iilliterate can manage that but is inapt using search function?) and asking that on EF?
With all that has been said about the Original Poster to date, perhaps he has topped himself and is now floating in the lake. Another sorrowful towel death.
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Old 08.02.2014, 12:57
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

Personally, I don't see the issue the the towel question. Their question might be quite curt, but i don't see is as a stupid question (What is it they say? There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers?)

If you're in a strange city, or country, for that matter, and you have no idea of department store names or where they are, then wandering the streets at random seems an odd choice.

I wouldn't relate it to a pub conversation in this case, more like a coffee machine moment.

"Hi, I'm Bob. I've just arrived. Do any of you have any ideas where I can buy some towels?" doesn't seem unreasonable. I wouldn't just reply "shops" and walk away.

Even if someone stopped me in the street and asked where they could buy a particular item, I'd just tell them.

There's the line that people get fed up of reading the same questions. You know what? I'm fed up of reading the same tired put downs.
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Old 08.02.2014, 13:09
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

It is a unique thread (at least new one appearing every couple of months a year ). So admin any take on it?

We all were newbies before and used to ask different questions. Some of them were relevant, some were less, some were not at all but there is no such thing as stupid questions. Need some lesson from Forest?

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Old 08.02.2014, 13:10
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There is a really, really simple newer to this. Don't!
Here, here!!!
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Old 08.02.2014, 13:16
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New members are good for a forum, chasing them away is not.
EF is such a monstrous monopoly of a forum that it doesn't matter what is "good" for it. It will continue to grow whatever happens: there is nothing that anyone can do - neither members nor administration - that can stop the juggernaut rolling along, collecting new members along the way. So a few post and never come back... EF hardly notices, like you wouldn't notice a flea dropping off the back of a stray dog.

Just type any word + Switzerland into google and your first result will be something from the EF. This dominance alone ensures that there will always be new blood.

Nothing will ever change.

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Old 08.02.2014, 13:16
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It is a unique thread (new one appearing every couple of months a year). So admin any take on it?
I gave you my take. I don't like it, but it's not about my (or any of the other mods') varying and subjective likes and dislikes.

It's difficult to frame rules around rude and snippy. One would hope people would be civil, but as in real life, there are rude and thoughtless people out there, and there's not much you can do about it.
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EF is such a monstrous monopoly of a forum that it doesn't matter what is "good" for it. It will continue to grow whatever happens: there is nothing that anyone can do - neither members nor administration - that can stop the juggernaut rolling along, collecting new members along the way. So a few post and never come back... EF hardly notices, like you wouldn't notice a flea dropping off the back of a stray dog.

Just type any word + Switzerland into google and your first result will be something from the EF. This dominance alone ensures that there will always be new blood.

Nothing will ever change.

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I gave you my take. I don't like it, but it's not about my (or any of the other mods') varying and subjective likes and dislikes.

It's difficult to frame rules around rude and snippy. One would hope people would be civil, but as in real life, there are rude and thoughtless people out there and there's not much you can do about it.
I agree. We survived brown sugar and minarets. We will survive towels and couple of tampons thrown at us as well, if necessary

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EF already has a "I belong to a forum" social group feeling and, just like any circle of friends, people are suspicious of any new posters until they "prove" themselves.
This is the problem. You shouldn't build your social life around an internet forum. That way you don't have to confront new people with suspicion and elitism.

Frankly I'm far more suspicious of people with tens of thousands of posts, in some cases, on multiple forums, than I ever would be of a newbie who asks something about brown sugar or average salaries.
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Old 08.02.2014, 13:28
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Personally, I don't see the issue the the towel question. Their question might be quite curt, but i don't see is as a stupid question (What is it they say? There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers?)

If you're in a strange city, or country, for that matter, and you have no idea of department store names or where they are, then wandering the streets at random seems an odd choice.

I wouldn't relate it to a pub conversation in this case, more like a coffee machine moment.

"Hi, I'm Bob. I've just arrived. Do any of you have any ideas where I can buy some towels?" doesn't seem unreasonable. I wouldn't just reply "shops" and walk away.

Even if someone stopped me in the street and asked where they could buy a particular item, I'd just tell them.

There's the line that people get fed up of reading the same questions. You know what? I'm fed up of reading the same tired put downs.

That was my take on it too.
The question could have been phrased better ( something like "I'm new to Geneva can anyone recommend a shop where I can buy bath towels") but sometimes things just get a bit overwhelming when you're new to a place.
The first few answers were singularly unhelpful and it took five posts to get a useful suggestion so I can really understand why that posted got a bit narked.

In my opinion if you think the question's stupid and you don't have anything useful to contribute then it's better to just say nothing at all.
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In my opinion if you think the question's stupid and you don't have anything useful to contribute then it's better to just say nothing at all.
But..but..but what about my post count!! (And my thanks, and my rep, and all these little cookies we get for increasing the signal to noise ratio to staggering levels)
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Not Dignitas?
No Dignitas is for those who are NOT resident in Switzerland and have no other choice. Exit is for Swiss residents and 1000x better (as it allows you to die in your own bed - not some concrete block on an industrial estate)
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No Dignitas is for those who are NOT resident in Switzerland and have not other choice. Exit is for Swiss residents and 1000x better (as it allows you to die in your own bed - not some concrete block on an industrial estate)
Great info! Thanks.
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No Dignitas is for those who are NOT resident in Switzerland and have not other choice. Exit is for Swiss residents and 1000x better (as it allows you to die in your own bed - not some concrete block on an industrial estate)
I have read the first post and this post.
How did we get from newbies to Diginitas?
(Do i want to know?)
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I have read the first post and this post.
How did we get from newbies to Diginitas?
(Do i want to know?)
It's like a game of Chinese whispers.
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

A perfect example of how it should be done.
http://www.englishforum.ch/employmen...sh-person.html
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Re: The Treatment of New Posters

See, even you can do it

Although you could do with some help with your spelling

Help! Where is the permit office?
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