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Smoking in the balcony :-O

EDIT- This was supposed to go in "Complaints corner". Could the mod gods move it please? Completely my fault!

I live on 5th floor and the guy who lives on 4th floor smokes his head off in his balcony. What this does is fill my whole flat with smell of smoke even if my window is slightly open. This person avoids eye contact with everyone as I think they do some dodgy stuff as well :-) Sniff sniff smoke smoke :-)
They make noises at odd times as well which doesn't bother me as I do the same. I work to non CH time so I roll my chair at 3-4am regulary.

I have installed special net doors so I can enjoy the night breeze without insects coming in but this smoke thing is really messing my quality of life. So basically this guy smokes in the balcony to keep his flat smelling nice but in the process stinks up my flat. Technically he is not really doing anything wrong as he is just having a fag in his balcony.

Talking to him is not an option as he is very strange type of person I guess I will have to just put up with it. Would be nice if he smoked in his toilet where there are exhaust fans! Just venting

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Old 30.10.2006, 07:17
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

Other than murder the guy late one night, there is little you can do.

This a common and very annyoing problem. Even asking if the occupants below are non-smokers before moving doesn't guarantee that two months later new tennants move who do. This happened to us some years back.

It's particularly nasty as they are avoiding stinking out their flat, but do it to yours...
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

options in no particular order of merit nor practicality:
  • move
  • open windows not near the balcony
  • talk to smoking person
by the way your rolling at 4am ain't going to make things better
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

I expect your neighbour may point you the drafts thread in his defense
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

Clean your balcony with petrol when he's smoking. Will it drain onto his balcony?

Probably not practical, but nice to daydream about...
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

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Clean your balcony with petrol when he's smoking. Will it drain onto his balcony?
I could make sure that the petrol drains

Arghhh!! the dreaded "draft" card. I am sure he will play it as he is Swiss

Lob I think I will just stick with the status quo for now.Btw he makes 1000 times more noise than me but based on how the building agency acts I am sure his word will count for more. It's best not to start anything. I will stick with flicking the odd dead wasp that falls into my balcony :-)
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

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I live on 5th floor and the guy who lives on 4th floor smokes his head off in his balcony. What this does is fill my whole flat with smell of smoke even if my window is slightly open. This person avoids eye contact with everyone as I think they do some dodgy stuff as well :-) Sniff sniff smoke smoke :-)
They make noises at odd times as well which doesn't bother me as I do the same. I work to non CH time so I roll my chair at 3-4am regulary.

I have installed special net doors so I can enjoy the night breeze without insects coming in but this smoke thing is really messing my quality of life. So basically this guy smokes in the balcony to keep his flat smelling nice but in the process stinks up my flat. Technically he is not really doing anything wrong as he is just having a fag in his balcony.

Talking to him is not an option as he is very strange type of person I guess I will have to just put up with it. Would be nice if he smoked in his toilet where there are exhaust fans! Just venting
Same thing happened to me in the previous apartment.
I went to the rental company, I telephoned the police, I went to the gemeindehaus (village office), nothing works.
It is totally legal, he can smoke all he wants, anytime he wants. Smoke is not outlawed.

I moved to this apartment.

Hope this helps you, as I try to provide you a VALUABLE message.


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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

Some thoughts:
  • In my view, Swiss laws are way too liberal regarding smoking in public, particularly indoors (in restaurants, clubs etc.). Hopefully, this will change soon.
  • I think that smoking in private will not be illegal anytime soon, be it indoors or outdoors. So you'll probably have to accept your neighbors' smoking habits. You can sue them, but I doubt you'll have any success in court.
  • I think it's legitimate that your neighbors prefer smoking on the balcony instead of inside. The proprietor will also prefer it this way.
  • For those looking for a new flat: I'd recommend looking for a flat equipped with an air circulation system (that's not an air-con system, as these are usually not allowed for flats in Switzerland). New properties built in recent years are usually equipped with such a system. It keeps the air in your flat fresh and clean even with windows closed. That's also a plus if you happen to live at a busy street or in a noisy environment or if you suffer from hay fever. Unfortunately, such flats aren't easy to get and they tend to cost quite a bit more than average flats (but it's really worth it for added comfort and flexibility).
  • If possible, I'd recommend to do some outdoor sports out in the green (golfing, jogging, cycling, inline skating, hiking etc.). Or go for a swim in the lake/river or for a walk in a nearby park or forest from time to time. That's probably much healthier than staying inside and worrying too much about all the potential dangers in life
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Re: Smoking in the balcony :-O

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For those looking for a new flat: I'd recommend looking for a flat equipped with an air circulation system (that's not an air-con system, as these are usually not allowed for flats in Switzerland). New properties built in recent years are usually equipped with such a system. It keeps the air in your flat fresh and clean even with windows closed. That's also a plus if you happen to live at a busy street or in a noisy environment or if you suffer from hay fever. Unfortunately, such flats aren't easy to get and they tend to cost quite a bit more than average flats (but it's really worth it for added comfort and flexibility).
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These apartments can be recognized by being referred to as Minergie standard. Not only are the air circulation systems excellent (some new ones even have variable circulation speeds) but you also save a lot on heating/cooling expenses.

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